NC - Erica Lynn Parsons, 13, Rowan County, 19 Nov 2011 - #2

[dillysmom11]

Again, what folks seem to be missing is that the Parsons are not saying that they sent Erica off with the actual grandmother, but someone claiming to be the grandmother and identifying herself as Nan. They were duped.

I've been following this case, as an adoptive mom of 11.

I agree that this is a possibility.

 

[ACandyRose]

Well, if I got a phone call or messages on the internet from someone claiming to know everything about one of my children I'd be checking to see who in the H it really was.

Amen to that !!

 

[cherishtoo]

Erica’s mom: Adoptive parents not forthcoming

The last time Carolyn Parsons saw Erica, the daughter she gave up for adoption, was in January 2011, at the Whataburger on Main Street in Mooresville. Erica, who spoke little that day, wore a cast and a splint. Her adoptive parents, Casey and Sandy Parsons, had told her Erica had fallen out of a tree while playing.

Read more here: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/20...s-mom-adoptive-parents-not.html#storylink=cpy

 

[HerStory]

In my culture, I am known to be a 'backwards Spirit'. I look at the good in bad, and the bad in good. I think of things in ways that others do not. I ask appropriate questions at inappropriate times and to the most challenging parties. I root for the underdog in competitions and will sometimes say the opposite of what I mean. I don't believe that I am a complete 'Windigokan', but I once had an Elder tell me that I was...... I won't question her judgment, but I will question my own behaviour and purpose in life. I don't know life any other way and I like the fact that I CAN sometimes play the Devil's Advocate more easily than others.

 

[2Hope4]

Erica’s mom: Adoptive parents not forthcoming

The last time Carolyn Parsons saw Erica, the daughter she gave up for adoption, was in January 2011, at the Whataburger on Main Street in Mooresville. Erica, who spoke little that day, wore a cast and a splint. Her adoptive parents, Casey and Sandy Parsons, had told her Erica had fallen out of a tree while playing.

Read more here: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/20...s-mom-adoptive-parents-not.html#storylink=cpy

BBM.... Oh dear!! So did they get medical care for her? Or did they treat her themselves? AND, dear little Erica, spoke little that day. Afraid to speak? Most likely. Damn. :banghead:

 

[Esquire]

Sorry, but you seem to be stating this as fact, not opinion. Is that your intention? Are you privy to inside information?

Is it possible "duped" is an awfully neutral word for parents who gave their kid to a stranger?

No, I was paraphrasing for the Parsons.

I find this case very interesting because of the family dynamics at play within this family. I do not buy everything the Parsons have said, and I don't buy what I've heard from other family members. It looks like these folks have redefined dysfunctional.

The majority of those watching this case decided early on that the Parsons killed or sold Erica. They base this on statements by other family members who probably have very sharp axes to grind. To me, there are many other suspects here that need more scrutiny other than the Parsons. If there was evidence that the Parsons caused her disappearance and/or death, they would have been arrested by now. But, after extensive review by local, state and federal law enforcement, there is no.

I am very sympathetic to those wrongly accused. I know that every household has problems of varying difficulty. While there are valid criticisms about the manner how the Parsons let Erica go and the fact that they kept cashing money for her care, I think that's those are the only proven gripes. The only crime possible is taking the money, and I am sure they would be able to avoid jail time if able to repay it. If someone did something to Erica to harm her, that would be a much more serious crime, and I would like to know who, if anyone, did it. That's why I am trying to get others to explore other possibilities. If the Parsons turn out to be telling the truth, I wonder if those who were quick to convict them will be just as quick to eat crow. I know the answer is no, as we, as humans, hate to admit we are wrong! I think that is why folks have moved on from "they are murderers!" to "they took our tax money!" but with the amount of furor.

JMHO.

 

[2Hope4]

Casey and Sandy Parsons had arranged the meeting, saying they wanted Erica to know her biological mother. And Casey Parsons was having medical issues. Over burgers, Erica’s adoptive parents said they might have to give Erica back, Carolyn Parsons recalled.

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2013/08/28/4271142/ericas-mom-adoptive-parents-not.html

Read more here: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/20...s-mom-adoptive-parents-not.html#storylink=cpy​

 

[AlcorSuhu]

Again, what folks seem to be missing is that the Parsons are not saying that they sent Erica off with the actual grandmother, but someone claiming to be the grandmother and identifying herself as Nan. They were duped.

But.....Didn't Casey claim that Carolyn introduced her to Nan on FB as Irene Goodman whereas Carolyn claims that she knows no Nan or Irene Goodman and hasn't had any contact with Casey or Erica since January 5, 2011? Yet Casey can't come up with any of that contact information concerning this Nan or Irene Goodman. Somebody's lying! Who's doing the duping? Was anyone really duped?

 

[2Hope4]

As to blaming CP and SP for whatever happened to Erica. Yup, I sure do! Whether they did give her to someone that didn't even know, sold her, killed her, caused her to want to run away...who knows at this point, but the sole responsibility of her parents was to protect and nurture her. Too many folks reporting the abuse. If only one person, well perhaps they saw something they didn't like, and in hindsight consider it abuse. But there isn't just one person saying it! Numerous reports. Even comments on MSM reports by friends of the remaining kids, family members, etc., are saying abuse. Can't remember whether it was MSM or a comment under MSM that stated Erica wasn't even allowed outside to play with the other kids! So how then did she climb a tree and injury herself??? Typically in a tragedy of any time, family come together. But not within this mess. The family remains divided! And the main subject among whatever happened to Erica remains with CS, and SP!

How do you just decide to give a kid back? Erica is a person! Not an object that you return for whatever reasoning!

I'd eat crow, ground hog, possum, whatever the heck it took to have Erica alive, and healthy! I'd even offer my home for her to come live!!! No child should ever be abused!

 

[2Hope4]

But.....Didn't Casey claim that Carolyn introduced her to Nan on FB as Irene Goodman whereas Carolyn claims that she knows no Nan or Irene Goodman and hasn't contacted Casey or Erica in years? Yet Casey can't come up with any of that contact information concerning this Nan or Irene Goodman. Somebody's lying! Who's doing the duping?

The original story was Carolyn gave all their information to this "Irene Goodman" who then CALLED CP and wanted a relationship with Erica. The story has changed at least 3 times. On of the versions has CP finding Irene on FB, though none of the Irene Goodman's on FB is the right one. CP states she was shown photos or FB accounts by LE and they just weren't the right one. Can't remember what the other version was right now.

Yet according to the last MSM posted, Carolyn stated Erica's father wouldn't accept he was the father, so doubtful any of her paternal family has or had a relationship with Erica!

And considering that Erica had some type of learning disability, wouldn't that make you even more protective? Wouldn't that make you triple check and get a background check of anyone that wanted the child? And who in their right mind would let a child go stay even a weekend with someone you just met? According to CP... Erica went two prior times but I don't remember reading how long she stayed those times. And the third time she left, she was to visit for Christmas. YET, not once since Erica went "missing" have they tried to visit? Tried to send Birthday wishes, Christmas gifts, anything???

I've rehomed animals, and gotten photos afterwards, and visited afterwards. No way, no how would I allow my child to leave with a stranger, and think it was perfectly OK! Makes me sick!!!

 

[ACandyRose]

The bottom line for me is that they cashed those monthly checks for at least 20 months from the last they claim they heard from Erica. And we don't know that they're not still cashing them today. And if Erica was also getting Medicaid then I would assume she was also getting food stamps loaded on her SNAP card each month.

So the "duped" story don't hold water.

In my opinion, they know exactly where Erica went. She's either 1) dead, 2) They sold her into human trafficking or to some pedophile. But wherever Erica is, they have to know that she was never coming back for them to feel safe and comfortable to continue to cash those monthly checks.

There are so many holes in their story and one of those holes is a rabbit hole. :banghead:

 

[Heroine]

Again, what folks seem to be missing is that the Parsons are not saying that they sent Erica off with the actual grandmother, but someone claiming to be the grandmother and identifying herself as Nan. They were duped.

Let's just say she was "duped" that still doesn't explain her behavior during all of this. I mean she had this child since she was a baby, but she has no feelings whatsoever for her. And no I can't tell you exactly how she feels about her, because honestly she has never elaborated on that. Which leads me to this, actions speak louder than words!!! Her actions, allowing her to stay with someone she didn't truly know, and then not even keeping track of the number that she had supposedly spoken to her from, or not keeping any kind of record of any of their conversations. To me that doesn't sound like any kind of loving responsible mother. I guarantee if it were one of her biological children it wouldn't have gone down this way. I mean she hasn't seen her in 2 years and I still have yet to see this woman shed a tear unless it was to benefit herself. I just can't believe that this is all just a mistake on CP's part for believing that this woman was "Nan". I'm sorry this is jmo!

You know who was truly duped no matter how you look at it? ERICA!!!

And if she truly has a learning disability and you loved her you wouldn't allow her to make her own decisions about where and who she stays with. Come on now!

 

[Esquire]

But.....Didn't Casey claim that Carolyn introduced her to Nan on FB as Irene Goodman whereas Carolyn claims that she knows no Nan or Irene Goodman and hasn't contacted Casey or Erica in years? Yet Casey can't come up with any of that contact information concerning this Nan or Irene Goodman. Somebody's lying! Who's doing the duping?

Yes! That is the question, and Carolyn should be considered. She shows up over a decade later, gets a visit, goes to Louisiana, then is never heard from until she introduces Nan? Sounds like there is definitely a motive to get Erica, a plan and opportunity. Since Erica's brother was apparently exhibiting extremely dangerous behaviors, the Parsons probably were looking for a safer home away from him.

Plus, Sandy has an Erica tattoo! That obviously means he is innocent. (Sarcasm).

 

[2Hope4]

Let's just say she was "duped" that still doesn't explain her behavior during all of this. I mean she had this child since she was a baby, but she has no feelings whatsoever for her. And no I can't tell you exactly how she feels about her, because honestly she has never elaborated on that. Which leads me to this, actions speak louder than words!!! Her actions, allowing her to stay with someone she didn't truly know, and then not even keeping track of the number that she had supposedly spoken to her from, or not keeping any kind of record of any of their conversations. To me that doesn't sound like any kind of loving responsible mother. I guarantee if it were one of her biological children it wouldn't have gone down this way. I mean she hasn't seen her in 2 years and I still have yet to see this woman shed a tear unless it was to benefit herself. I just can't believe that this is all just a mistake on CP's part for believing that this woman was "Nan". I'm sorry this is jmo!

You know who was truly duped no matter how you look at it? ERICA!!!

And if she truly has a learning disability and you loved her you wouldn't allow her to make her own decisions about where and who she stays with. Come on now!

When her biological daughter was gone less than 24hrs the police was called!!! Yet not once did they call about Erica!! NOT ONCE!

 

[scmom]

I think the adoptive parents were ready to get rid of Erica as early as January 2011. I don't think they were ready to give up the monetary benefits though.

 

[Heroine]

When her biological daughter was gone less than 24hrs the police was called!!! Yet not once did they call about Erica!! NOT ONCE!

My point exactly!! She may as well have said, well that's different, shes my biological daughter and I love her. imo

 

[2Hope4]

Even if we go with the being duped theory.... at what point do you realize you've been duped? When the child doesn't want to come back home? And that's perfectly OK with those responsible for her care! When you don't get to attend the birthday party for her? When the phone number changes and you can't talk to "Nan" or Erica? When you've not heard from Erica in a week? A month? 6 months? A year? At some point you would have to realize something wasn't right and do all in your power to find your daughter!!! Including notifying LE that you believe you were duped and tell the story!!! Nooo life goes on. Daughter gone. Oh well. Hey isn't that dog in heat? Great let's get it bred real quick so we can get some money off those puppies! Daughter? What daughter? We've got puppies coming!

UGH! IMO! UGH!

 

[Linda7NJ]

Every year they were sent a form from subsidy to fill out. Would love to see what they wrote about where she was living!!!

 

[2Hope4]

My point exactly!! She may as well have said, well that's different, shes my biological daughter and I love her. imo

Oh but see she was with an adult male, and they had to go there and get her! She was in danger dontchaknow!

Never mind Erica was with an adult, and no one knew who the adult was, where they lived, how to get in contact with them, how Erica was being treated, etc. That's perfectly fine! Outta sight, outta mind! Just keep the checks coming, please. :stormingmad:

 

[Linda7NJ]

Even if we go with the being duped theory.... at what point do you realize you've been duped? When the child doesn't want to come back home? And that's perfectly OK with those responsible for her care! When you don't get to attend the birthday party for her? When the phone number changes and you can't talk to "Nan" or Erica? When you've not heard from Erica in a week? A month? 6 months? A year? At some point you would have to realize something wasn't right and do all in your power to find your daughter!!! Including notifying LE that you believe you were duped and tell the story!!! Nooo life goes on. Daughter gone. Oh well. Hey isn't that dog in heat? Great let's get it bred real quick so we can get some money off those puppies! Daughter? What daughter? We've got puppies coming!

UGH! IMO! UGH!

Years ago, I recall an email support group for people looking to adopt from or rehome a child they no longer wanted. It was called disrupted adoptions or something to that affect. People would send kids to other people site unseen... But the subsidy would go with the child and ideally it would all be made legal at some point.
Iirc a few people were "collectors" much like animal hoarders. Very scary all around, for everyone.