NC - Erica Lynn Parsons, 13, Rowan County, 19 Nov 2011 - #5

[ArianeEmory]

Casey will throw all of them under the bus. I don't think she will ever acknowledge her part in Erica's disappearance. JMO


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I agree. I just wonder if she realizes she's hit the wall with Carolyn. All that continuing to attack Carolyn has done is turn the public even more against her (and her attorney); even her atty was forced to comment to the press that Casey's big plan to go to New Orleans to try to keep the spotlight on Carolyn was incredibly silly. So with no way to keep hammering on Carolyn, she has to turn to a fresher scapegoat, one who may still be in the state.

 

[TxLady2]

oh here is is-
http://www.salisburypost.com/article/20130821/SP01/130829933/

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Trimarco said the results show Parsons’ answer was strongly deceptive.

“The numerical scoring for that particular format was minus nine. In order for him to to fail that test, he would have needed a minus four or above. And so he is what I consider strongly deceptive to those questions. This was not a close call. It was quite clear,” said Trimarco.

Interesting. The attorney says he believes Sandy misunderstood the questions. How could he misunderstand something so simple and direct?

 

[sreshowtime]

^ The polygraph expert, Jack Trimarco, said he asked Sandy Parsons two questions and fully explained the questions.

poor Sherrill

 

[scmom]

Mr. Sherrill, the adoptive parents' attorney, has been trying from the start to spread disinformation. That is apparently part of his job. The other part is to keep LE from talking to them. I wonder what he thinks of CP's need to make public statements.

 

[ACandyRose]

Sandy had a lie detector test administered by a FBI agent with 21 years experience. Sandy has the question read to him beforehand (and clarified as how it will be defined). The question is whether he deliberately helped in Erica's disappearance. His answer is no. He again answered no to the same question when it was asked again. The agent who has administered 3500+ tests, stated Sandy scored a -9 on both responses. To put it in perspective, a -4 is considered deceptive. A -9 is considered to be highly deceptive. Why hasn't this man been arrested?!!! Turn up the heat on this SOB and let Carolyn get some frickin in answers!!!

This is from the Dr. Phil Show. I never transcribed that part of the show but the video discussion on the polygraph that Sandy took is here, part 9 and 10:

Dr. Phil 8/21/13 Erica Parsons Part 2 Vid 9
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=MyqD9iMdjg4

Dr. Phil 8/21/13 Erica Parsons Part 2 Vid 10
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ezt7GyIIxok

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[ACandyRose]

I didn't know that a federal court could use a poly as evidence. Watched the video (thank you Considering). Interesting & worth checking that federal law out.

I knew that if both the defense and prosecutors agreed in a court to present a poly, that it would be allowed. (when is the last time you saw that happen?) Maybe it has...?

I think it's common knowledge that polygraphs are not allow in court but it's interesting that Sandy Parsons failed one administered outside of court.

In other cases I've followed, normally the attorney arranges for a client to give a polygraph privately first to get the results before they ever let a client take one for any media. I can only think that perhaps their attorney truly believed their initial story to the point that he really thought they would pass with flying colors.
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[Chaotic]

Reposting this link: MO MO - Dixon, Child-Skeletal, Preteen, Found on Rural Private Property, Oct'13 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

Pre-teen/child's remains found in Dixon, MO this past weekend, 26 Oct 13. Child has been dead at least one year and possibly up to five years. Dixon is right outside Ft. Leonard Wood military base.

Still catching up on Erica's case.....does anybody know if the family has ties to this area or to military possibly stationed in this area?

Interesting. I don't think it's too far fetched to wonder if they could have traveled 600 miles to get rid of her remains....

 

[AnjL]

I agree. I just wonder if she realizes she's hit the wall with Carolyn. All that continuing to attack Carolyn has done is turn the public even more against her (and her attorney); even her atty was forced to comment to the press that Casey's big plan to go to New Orleans to try to keep the spotlight on Carolyn was incredibly silly. So with no way to keep hammering on Carolyn, she has to turn to a fresher scapegoat, one who may still be in the state.

And one who has remained silent in the media. Unfortunately this may force James to speak out and defend himself against something he obviously didn't do. I mean, why would he call attention to himself if he had any part in her disappearance? Casey herself is the one who stated in her interview that Erica called her (Casey) a beotch and didn't want her to come for her birthday party. She didn't say anything about James. IMO I bet the story now changes and something derogatory from Erica regarding brother James is now conveniently added. JMO


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[scmom]

And one who has remained silent in the media. Unfortunately this may force James to speak out and defend himself against something he obviously didn't do. I mean, why would he call attention to himself if he had any part in her disappearance? Casey herself is the one who stated in her interview that Erica called her (Casey) a beotch and didn't want her to come for her birthday party. She didn't say anything about James. IMO I bet the story now changes and something derogatory from Erica regarding brother James is now conveniently added. JMO


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BBM
No doubt that the story will change yet again, but no matter what the story of the day is nothing is CP's fault. It's always someone else, someone who doesn't like her.

 

[windstorm]

Interesting. I don't think it's too far fetched to wonder if they could have traveled 600 miles to get rid of her remains....

I am hoping somebody like ACR that does a lot of genealogy type research can dig up any family in and around Missouri. There are Parsons in Missouri (so much so that if you go on Casenet and just put "Parsons" and "all courts" it won't let you search because there are just way too many results). Parsons is a pretty common name in areas not too far from Dixon.

Of course, MOO. ***not saying anybody is guilty of anything or implying any Parsons in Missouri is related to any of this. It is just my opinion that all avenues need to be checked.

 

[ArianeEmory]

Interesting. I don't think it's too far fetched to wonder if they could have traveled 600 miles to get rid of her remains....

There's precedent, and from NC too.

http://www.newsobserver.com/2013/09/16/3200886/wake-jury-finds-grant-hayes-guilty.html

Killed his ex-wife/mother of his children in NC, and (with new gf) drove her remains to dump them near family land in TX.

(Link to Missouri remains, for context/those who may have missed it: MO MO - Dixon, Child-Skeletal, Preteen, Found on Rural Private Property, Oct'13 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community)

 

[scmom]

The only problem I see about Erica's body having been transported to MO is that the story Jamie gave was that when he woke up Erica was gone. I doubt the adoptive parents would have had time to make a trip to MO and back overnight, but I could be wrong.

 

[windstorm]

The only problem I see about Erica's body having been transported to MO is that the story Jamie gave was that when he woke up Erica was gone. I doubt the adoptive parents would have had time to make a trip to MO and back overnight, but I could be wrong.

I'm not sure if him having "woke up and she was gone" is what really happened. He may just be saying that so he doesn't implicate himself as having had knowledge that he didn't report. It may be his way of telling she is gone and something happened to her. Remember, he went to his uncles's house and him and his uncle reported Erica missing. He and his uncle had time to come up with a plausible story to get it reported without giving too many details.

Again, MOO and just a theory/idea to throw out there.

 

[windstorm]

Back in thread 2 (can't remember which post) bio mom CarP said she met with Erica in January 2011 and then CP blocked contact. Still trying to catch up here, but is that the last time anybody outside immediate adoptive family claims to have seen Erica?

 

[Chaotic]

I am hoping somebody like ACR that does a lot of genealogy type research can dig up any family in and around Missouri. There are Parsons in Missouri (so much so that if you go on Casenet and just put "Parsons" and "all courts" it won't let you search because there are just way too many results). Parsons is a pretty common name in areas not too far from Dixon.

Of course, MOO. ***not saying anybody is guilty of anything or implying any Parsons in Missouri is related to any of this. It is just my opinion that all avenues need to be checked.

I'd also be interested in knowing if there are any ties to the Goodmans or Carolyn in that area. It would make sense if Casey is trying to pin Erica's disappearance on her other side of the family. On the other hand, there doesn't necessarily need to be any family connections to that area if they just picked some random place 2 states away to divert attention away from themselves. And the farther away they can get her, the less they have to think about it. MOO.

 

[scmom]

Back in thread 2 (can't remember which post) bio mom CarP said she met with Erica in January 2011 and then CP blocked contact. Still trying to catch up here, but is that the last time anybody outside immediate adoptive family claims to have seen Erica?

The only person who has volunteered any information as to the time Erica was last seen is Jamie. None of the other family members have said anything that I've read or heard of.

 

[Chaotic]

The only problem I see about Erica's body having been transported to MO is that the story Jamie gave was that when he woke up Erica was gone. I doubt the adoptive parents would have had time to make a trip to MO and back overnight, but I could be wrong.

This crossed my mind too but what if they did the transport at a later time/date? I know its a stretch but everyone is so desperate for answers, at this point it's easy to grasp at straws.

 

[scmom]

This crossed my mind too but what if they did the transport at a later time/date? I know its a stretch but everyone is so desperate for answers, at this point it's easy to grasp at straws.

Oh, I've speculated a lot of things to myself, but it wouldn't be appropriate for me to post on my scenarios.

 

[sreshowtime]

No I can not recall anyone saying publicly the last time they actually saw Erica.
Based on what Jamie has said, he seems to indicate she was there one day and gone the next.

 

[bettiepageturner]

If, God forbid, there were a connection to the MO case, would LE already be aware of any unusual/long distance travel plans made since 2011? The search warrant indicated a sweep of their financials, but until they've been arrested, I assume nobody is digging up gas station receipts. Mostly because it's tedious, but also because with a case like this, pretty much anything can start to look suspicious (like the knives found, which I think are indeed career-explainable red herrings). This is mostly to say, if there are any such details the Parsonses were able to omit in interviews, I'm confident they won't escape LE's timeline-creating ability.