NC NC - Faith Hedgepeth, 19, UNC student, Chapel Hill, 7 Sep 2012 #3

[Webthrush]

Anyone got a clue how soon a trial date would be set... are we talking weeks or months for such a decision?... and will there be an attempt for a change-of-venue (out of Durham), or any other major delays? And with death penalty off the table will there be a plea-bargain attempt, or has that already been tried and failed? I wonder how many people pertinent to this case even still live in this (very itinerant) area? What a mess....

 

[acutename]

have not been following this case- did FH know this man at all?

 

[Webthrush]

have not been following this case- did FH know this man at all?

No, have never heard of any evidence that he knew of Faith nor traveled in any of her circle of friends. One of many oddities about him as a suspect, and why for 10 yrs. he was on no one's radar.

 

[datacrunchr]

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Just one more thing, is it common for a defense lawyer to want to go to trial before getting all the evidence? Maybe I am misunderstanding or don't have the data, but the news story said both sides ready to schedule a trial, but finalizing discovery. Isn't that turning over the evidence? How likely, again back to the odds, that the defense lawyer has an answer for 39,000 pages of discovery? Or does the defense lawyer only have to answer one question and he has the answer?

 

[datacrunchr]

There was someone who previously expressed a desire to kill Faith, shortly before she died. This someone had the time to develop a plan to get out of consequences for actually doing what he said he would do.

From AI

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A body positioned in a sexualized way

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Tips for investigators

• Stagers often discover the body or are responsible for reporting the person missing.

Fake texts impersonating the murder victim.

Gabby Petito murder: Brian Laundrie’s notebook confession revealed, 'I ended her life'

The first public glimpse of a confession Brian Laundrie left in a notebook in the Florida swamp where he killed himself last year reveals his final words.

www.fox13news.com

One last thing, a good read. https://pure.bond.edu.au/ws/portalfiles/portal/18275117/The_Defects_of_the_Situation.pdf

 

[MassGuy]

There was someone who previously expressed a desire to kill Faith, shortly before she died. This someone had the time to develop a plan to get out of consequences for actually doing what he said he would do.

From AI

A staged crime scene is a crime scene that has been intentionally altered to mislead investigators or to make a crime appear to be something else. The goal of a staged crime scene is to divert the investigation away from the truth.

Why staged crime scenes occur To frustrate the criminal justice process, To deflect culpability, and To escape punishment.

How staged crime scenes are created Altering evidence, Providing false information to police, Posing bodies, and Performing symbolic or ritualistic actions.

How staged crime scenes are detected Analyzing crime scene photographs, Looking for red flags, and Using crime scene reconstruction.

Types of staged crime scenes Staged suicides, Staged burglaries, Staged sexual homicides, Staged accidents, and Staged self-defense homicides.

Examples of staged crime scenes

A murder scene made to look like a suicide
A body positioned in a sexualized way

A body positioned for a better photographic effect

Staged crime scenes

Arthur Fellig (1899 to 1968), known by his pseudonym Weegee, was a photographer and photojournalist, famous for his stark black and white street photography

www.blueline.ca

Tips for investigators

• Stagers often discover the body or are responsible for reporting the person missing.

Fake texts impersonating the murder victim.

Gabby Petito murder: Brian Laundrie’s notebook confession revealed, 'I ended her life'

The first public glimpse of a confession Brian Laundrie left in a notebook in the Florida swamp where he killed himself last year reveals his final words.

www.fox13news.com

One last thing, a good read. https://pure.bond.edu.au/ws/portalfiles/portal/18275117/The_Defects_of_the_Situation.pdf

Was this person’s Dna found at the scene, and palm print found on the murder weapon?

 

[Simplestarz86]

The state intends to call THIRTY expert witnesses!!

Hmm…I know KR, MR, ETJ, are no experts so does this mean they are only going to call for “expert witnesses” and no people/friends/family/coworkers of Faith’s?

 

[Simplestarz86]

There was someone who previously expressed a desire to kill Faith, shortly before she died. This someone had the time to develop a plan to get out of consequences for actually doing what he said he would do.

From AI

A staged crime scene is a crime scene that has been intentionally altered to mislead investigators or to make a crime appear to be something else. The goal of a staged crime scene is to divert the investigation away from the truth.

Why staged crime scenes occur To frustrate the criminal justice process, To deflect culpability, and To escape punishment.

How staged crime scenes are created Altering evidence, Providing false information to police, Posing bodies, and Performing symbolic or ritualistic actions.

How staged crime scenes are detected Analyzing crime scene photographs, Looking for red flags, and Using crime scene reconstruction.

Types of staged crime scenes Staged suicides, Staged burglaries, Staged sexual homicides, Staged accidents, and Staged self-defense homicides.

Examples of staged crime scenes

A murder scene made to look like a suicide
A body positioned in a sexualized way

A body positioned for a better photographic effect

Staged crime scenes

Arthur Fellig (1899 to 1968), known by his pseudonym Weegee, was a photographer and photojournalist, famous for his stark black and white street photography

www.blueline.ca

Tips for investigators

• Stagers often discover the body or are responsible for reporting the person missing.

Fake texts impersonating the murder victim.

Gabby Petito murder: Brian Laundrie’s notebook confession revealed, 'I ended her life'

The first public glimpse of a confession Brian Laundrie left in a notebook in the Florida swamp where he killed himself last year reveals his final words.

www.fox13news.com

One last thing, a good read. https://pure.bond.edu.au/ws/portalfiles/portal/18275117/The_Defects_of_the_Situation.pdf

100%-no notes. #TRUTH4Faith #J4F #Justice4Faith

 

[Simplestarz86]

Anyone got a clue how soon a trial date would be set... are we talking weeks or months for such a decision?... and will there be an attempt for a change-of-venue (out of Durham), or any other major delays? And with death penalty off the table will there be a plea-bargain attempt, or has that already been tried and failed? I wonder how many people pertinent to this case even still live in this (very itinerant) area? What a mess....

I’m sure the state will offer a plea. It speaks volumes to me that for the last 3 years Miguel has been in jail. Don’t you think they would have offered a plea by now? Miguel would surely take a plea, no? Why drag it out so long? If Miguel hasn’t taken a deal yet, to me, Miguel wants this to go to trial.

 

[Simplestarz86]

Was this person’s Dna found at the scene, and palm print found on the murder weapon?

That’s the narrative. Which murder weapon are we talking about-the Bacardi Rum bottle (we were told for 9.5 years this was the murder weapon) or the wine bottle?

 

[MassGuy]

That’s the narrative. Which murder weapon are we talking about-the Bacardi Rum bottle (we were told for 9.5 years this was the murder weapon) or the wine bottle?

This is playing out like every single case ever where the suspect is actually guilty. He's changed attorneys multiple times, and is in no rush for trial. Why not? Jail is better than prison.

 

[Simplestarz86]

<modsnip - off topic>
Just one more thing, is it common for a defense lawyer to want to go to trial before getting all the evidence? Maybe I am misunderstanding or don't have the data, but the news story said both sides ready to schedule a trial, but finalizing discovery. Isn't that turning over the evidence? How likely, again back to the odds, that the defense lawyer has an answer for 39,000 pages of discovery? Or does the defense lawyer only have to answer one question and he has the answer?

I like the way you think. Sounds like, to me, defense can PROVE BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT, that Miguel is NOT, the murderer. JMO. Could he have been in room? Maybe. Why would someone rape and murder a person and then leave their DNA/prints in all the RIGHT places and nowhere else? JMO

 

[MassGuy]

I like the way you think. Sounds like, to me, defense can PROVE BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT, that Miguel is NOT, the murderer. JMO. Could he have been in room? Maybe. Why would someone rape and murder a person and then leave their DNA/prints in all the RIGHT places and nowhere else? JMO

Did you settle on a suspect early on, and just can’t let it go?

 

[Simplestarz86]

No, have never heard of any evidence that he knew of Faith nor traveled in any of her circle of friends. One of many oddities about him as a suspect, and why for 10 yrs. he was on no one's radar.

Exactly. Also, to stay in town after committing such a horrific crime?! Not sure of his “status” but I would think someone trying to get legalized/citizenship would NOT want to be on any government radar. He had 9.5 years to hightail it back to his country. He stayed.

 

[Simplestarz86]

Did you settle on a suspect early on, and just can’t let it go?

Nope. I’m not the CHPD with blinders on.

 

[MassGuy]

Nope. I’m not the CHPD with blinders on.

Hold it. How do they have blinders on when physical evidence told them who the killer was, and he wasn't even a suspect?

A guy who has stalled proceedings, like every guilty person ever.

And my question was a rhetorical question, I went back...

 

[datacrunchr]

This is playing out like every single case ever where the suspect is actually guilty. He's changed attorneys multiple times, and is in no rush for trial. Why not? Jail is better than prison.

I don't think you understand some key facts. Might want to go to the North Carolina courts portal here: Register of Actions

The defense wasn't continuing anything. He had a public defender for three years. The DA didn't release the discovery until June 28. At that time, look at the filing, the DA said it was ALL the discovery. Now from the news, we see that it's not actually all the discovery. Private attorneys came on the case August 29. That's normally a lot of money, up to a million, and this guy is broke. He didn't win the lottery, he cannot play from jail. So it's something else. Big clue as to what it is the first time the private attorneys are back in court, they say let's go to trial.

 

[datacrunchr]

Hold it. How do they have blinders on when physical evidence told them who the killer was, and he wasn't even a suspect?

A guy who has stalled proceedings, like every guilty person ever.

And my question was a rhetorical question, I went back...

It's the opposite. The DA is the one saying there is so much evidence and delayed movement. The private defense attorney, who was a prosecutor in the very famous Eve Carson case, says let's go to trial as soon as he gets the chance. There's no way he has reviewed all that evidence. The DA says they haven't looked at it all, even though they have had it for a decade.

 

[MassGuy]

It's the opposite. The DA is the one saying there is so much evidence and delayed movement. The private defense attorney, who was a prosecutor in the very famous Eve Carson case, says let's go to trial as soon as he gets the chance. There's no way he has reviewed all that evidence. The DA says they haven't looked at it all, even though they have had it for a decade.

If his previous attorneys pushed for a speedy trial, this would have happened years ago. This is scheduled to last a week. It's a slam dunk.

 

[datacrunchr]

Was this person’s Dna found at the scene, and palm print found on the murder weapon?

AgIf his previous attorneys pushed for a speedy trial, this would have happened years ago. This is scheduled to last a week. It's a slam dunk.

If his previous attorneys pushed for a speedy trial, this would have happened years ago. This is scheduled to last a week. It's a slam dunk.

Again, the DA didn't give discovery to the public defender until the end of June 2024. Question for you since you seem a legal scholar: Can a case proceed to trial if the defense has no discovery?