NC - Faith Hedgepeth, 19, UNC student, Chapel Hill, 7 Sep 2012 * arrest September 2021* #3

[Webthrush]

Darn! The motion has been deleted! There was so much info in it! There are 2 orders issued today, but the details are “confidential” - probably related to Karena and McCrary.

I downloaded the pdf from the original link, so here it is:

 

[louvillian08]

Darn! The motion has been deleted! There was so much info in it! There are 2 orders issued today, but the details are “confidential” - probably related to Karena and McCrary.

I wonder why it was deleted

 

[MysterySage]

I downloaded the pdf from the original link, so here it is:

Thanks for downloading!! WOW. Just read the motion….this is the first time I’ve ever seen confirmation of an official “time of death”. If I recall, it was listed not in her autopsy or other official documents previously released…

Given that tidbit & reading the direct quotes from CHPD during the interviews with K makes me believe that they suspect she has direct involvement with Faith’s murder (at the very least being present while it happened)…so…why has she never been pursued more aggressively as a suspect is my question? Just never enough to charge her? Confounded by the male semen/ MESO’s DNA found at the time? The circumstantial evidence listed in the motion implicating K to some extent is compelling IMO.

Obviously MESO’s DNA found in multiple places at the scene will not be ignored & is also compelling, but who else is concerned about the confidence of CHPD’s case?? I’m wondering what else they have on MESO outside of DNA?

 

[Webthrush]

Thanks for downloading!! WOW. Just read the motion….this is the first time I’ve ever seen confirmation of an official “time of death”. If I recall, it was listed not in her autopsy or other official documents previously released…

Given that tidbit & reading the direct quotes from CHPD during the interviews with K makes me believe that they suspect she has direct involvement with Faith’s murder (at the very least being present while it happened)…so…why has she never been pursued more aggressively as a suspect is my question? Just never enough to charge her? Confounded by the male semen/ MESO’s DNA found at the time? The circumstantial evidence listed in the motion implicating K to some extent is compelling IMO.

Obviously MESO’s DNA found in multiple places at the scene will not be ignored & is also compelling, but who else is concerned about the confidence of CHPD’s case?? I’m wondering what else they have on MESO outside of DNA?

Yeah, this is all very problematic (I think), with the estimated time of death (not previously released) being a crucial element, especially since it coincides with the thumping sound heard by the downstairs neighbor -- odd that such a brutal murder would result in no sounds, unless that really was the time of the crime, well before KR left. The defense prosecution will likely argue that estimating time of death is very imprecise with a lot of wiggle room, and there will be dueling experts as to how accurate it can or can't be.

I have to wonder if part of the reason for the incredible sloggish delay in this case may be that either law enforcement or the Durham DA felt they had a weak case and moved slowly in hope that stronger evidence would come forth. The Defense still has a somewhat uphill climb, but even the DNA evidence could have improbable, but not impossible, alternative explanations. And I guess we'll have to wait to learn how KR and Takoy Jones answered all the questions to their multiple interrogations...?

I wish more of the folks who used to follow this case were still here just to offer a range of ideas/opinions on all this (there were plenty who thought all along that KR was somehow involved in the crime). And of course the 'motion' includes a lot of other very interesting/new tidbits in this bizarre/difficult case.

 

[EllaMae]

Yeah, this is all very problematic (I think), with the estimated time of death (not previously released) being a crucial element, especially since it coincides with the thumping sound heard by the downstairs neighbor -- odd that such a brutal murder would result in no sounds, unless that really was the time of the crime, well before KR left. The defense will likely argue that estimating time of death is very imprecise with a lot of wiggle room, and there will be dueling experts as to how accurate it can or can't be.

I have to wonder if part of the reason for the incredible sloggish delay in this case may be that either law enforcement or the Durham DA felt they had a weak case and moved slowly in hope that stronger evidence would come forth. The Defense still has a somewhat uphill climb, but even the DNA evidence could have improbable, but not impossible, alternative explanations. And I guess we'll have to wait to learn how KR and Takoy Jones answered all the questions to their multiple interrogations...?

I wish more of the folks who used to follow this case were still here just to offer a range of ideas/opinions on all this (there were plenty who thought all along that KR was somehow involved in the crime). And of course the 'motion' includes a lot of other very interesting/new tidbits in this bizarre/difficult case.

I'm still following this case, but not as closely as I once did. I have a little Natiive American blood so I was drawn to this case from the beginning. I need to catch up on the most recent details.

 

[MysterySage]

Yeah, this is all very problematic (I think), with the estimated time of death (not previously released) being a crucial element, especially since it coincides with the thumping sound heard by the downstairs neighbor -- odd that such a brutal murder would result in no sounds, unless that really was the time of the crime, well before KR left. The defense prosecution will likely argue that estimating time of death is very imprecise with a lot of wiggle room, and there will be dueling experts as to how accurate it can or can't be.

I have to wonder if part of the reason for the incredible sloggish delay in this case may be that either law enforcement or the Durham DA felt they had a weak case and moved slowly in hope that stronger evidence would come forth. The Defense still has a somewhat uphill climb, but even the DNA evidence could have improbable, but not impossible, alternative explanations. And I guess we'll have to wait to learn how KR and Takoy Jones answered all the questions to their multiple interrogations...?

I wish more of the folks who used to follow this case were still here just to offer a range of ideas/opinions on all this (there were plenty who thought all along that KR was somehow involved in the crime). And of course the 'motion' includes a lot of other very interesting/new tidbits in this bizarre/difficult case.

I completely forgot that the downstairs neighbor heard those loud thumps around 3am ..that lines up almost exactly with the official estimated TOD..gives even more credence to the theory that KR was present during her death. There’s so much unknown about CHPD’s investigation since they’ve always been very tight-lipped, but I tend to agree with your wonderings. I personally believe CHPD’s never quite pieced together exactly how KR fits into the events of that morning, especially given the presence of unknown/MESOs DNA so they’ve been unable to press charges (accessory/2nd degree/etc) without a confession from her. And I agree, I think they’ve been somewhat stalling in the hopes that more evidence would present itself or that they’d be able to put the puzzle together fully with MESO in custody. It’s extremely frustrating because even now after 4+ years there are still no obvious ties between KR/MESO or Faith/MESO…you’d think some connection would’ve been leaked if one had been uncovered.

The filing just raises so many unanswered questions in my mind. Agreed the defense will have an upward climb, but if the details in the filing were accurately represented then I think they’ll certainly give the prosecution a run for their money. I’d assume they plan to argue MESO had consensual relations with Faith earlier that night elsewhere or at the apartment then left before she died? His DNA was found in 3 places in the apartment IIRC..

I’m about to go do another rewatch/listen of all the documentaries/podcasts from the case to refresh my memory. Hopefully the new filings and upcoming trial this year will bring some of the original folks back to this thread.. would be great to get lots of perspectives.