Found Deceased NC - Hania Noelia Aguilar, 13, abducted, Lumberton, 5 Nov 2018 #3

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  • #481
Prayers for Hania and her family today.
 
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They will not release any information about what was or was not found in the car. JMO

Additionally, I think processing could still be undergoing based on some other cases, moo.
 
  • #485
The Aunts Address is
Rosewood Mobile Home Park
3625 E Elizabethtown Rd
Lumberton NC

Hannas Address is listed as
3381 E Elizabethtown Rd
Lumberton, NC 28358
Lot 102

Hannas Address is on the same road as Rosewood Mobile Home Park.
Google map shows its 2 streets up, a 1 minute drive or 5 minute walk.

3381 E Elizabethtown Rd to 3525 E Elizabethtown Rd - Google Maps

Thank you for routing it! It was very helpful!

So I walked it via the google map and was surprised. Doesn’t look safe to walk in the early morning hours.

Elizabethtown is NC Highway 41 - no sidewalks in that section.

She would pass several car lots on the left and then down a tree lined entrance at Rosewood then walk to the back of the mobile home park to the aunts home.

And why walk to the aunts when you could have gone directly to the bus stop? I don’t see Hania and her sister making that walk every morning - ruining her brand new white shoes walking in wet grass.

The car dealerships/car lots would have cameras? And wouldn’t people have noticed two girls walking along a busy road every morning?
 
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HANIA NOELIA AGUILAR — FBI

The Lumberton Police Department and the FBI are investigating the kidnapping of Hania Noelia Aguilar. Hania was outside her home at the Rosewood Mobile Home Park located at 3525 Elizabethtown Road, Lumberton, North Carolina, on November 5, 2018. A witness saw a male subject dressed in all black and wearing a yellow bandana force Hania into a green, 2003 Ford Expedition with South Carolina license plate NWS-984. On November 8, the stolen SUV used in the kidnapping of Hania Aguilar was found near Quincey Road in Lumberton, North Carolina.

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  • #487
(Sigh, where are you, Hania? :( )
 
  • #488
Can we talk about the cost of custom adidas sneakers? Those brand new shoes she was wearing in the photo coat approx $110 to buy. Perhaps someone in that family is greak at DIY crafts..but those are very custom Afidas...
Hania’s family recently purchased a new and very distinctive pair of sneakers for her. They are Adidas brand, white sneakers with black stripes, and colorful stitching on the back heel of the shoe.
Lumberton PD, FBI asks public to be on the lookout for Hania Aguilar's shoes
 
  • #489
Hania’s family recently purchased a new and very distinctive pair of sneakers for her. They are Adidas brand, white sneakers with black stripes, and colorful stitching on the back heel of the shoe.
Lumberton PD, FBI asks public to be on the lookout for Hania Aguilar's shoes

Thank Pommy, just catching up, this is interesting.

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“Lumberton PD, FBI asks public to be on the lookout for Hania Aguilar's shoes (FBI)”

Eta: I’m not seeing a date on this article?
 
  • #490
Hania Aguilar Missing: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know | Heavy.com
1. “Hania was outside her home at the Rosewood Mobile Home Park located at 3525 Elizabethtown Road, Lumberton, North Carolina, on November 5, 2018 just before 7:00 a.m. She had gone outside just before her family left to drive to school. A witness heard her scream, looked outside, and saw a male subject dressed in all black and wearing a yellow bandana force Hania into a relative’s vehicle that was parked in the driveway.

2. “The Lumberton Police Department and the FBI ask for continued assistance with the investigation into the kidnapping of 13-year-old Hania Noelia Aguilar on November 5, 2018. Investigators have released surveillance footage of a person seen walking on surveillance video near the kidnapping scene. If you have any information as to the identity of this individual or any information in this case, contact the tip line at (910) 272-5871.”

3. “The stolen SUV was found just before 8:00 a.m. on November 8 off Quincey Drive in Lumberton, North Carolina,” the FBI reports.

“Someone called 911 and said they saw the vehicle backed into the woods. We immediately secured the scene and brought in the FBI’s Evidence Response Team to process the vehicle for evidence to find Hania.”

4. According to Shelley Lynch of FBI Charlotte, “Hania’s family calls her their princess, and they desperately miss her, and they just want their princess home.” Authorities have said they don’t believe Hania knew the person who abducted her.

Authorities have criticized social media posts trashing Hania’s mother.

5. The Lumberton Police and the FBI “are asking the public to be on the lookout for a pair of shoes that belong to 13-year-old Hania Noelia Aguilar,” police wrote on Facebook.

“Think through what you’ve seen since November 5th, have you seen a discarded pair of shoes, did someone try to sell you shoes, did they show up in a donation bin? We want to make sure we draw attention to the shoes because they are distinctive and the kidnapper could try and get rid of them for that reason,” said FBI Supervisory Senior Resident Agent Andy De la Rocha.
 
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Thank Pommy, just catching up, this is interesting.

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“Lumberton PD, FBI asks public to be on the lookout for Hania Aguilar's shoes (FBI)”

Eta: I’m not seeing a date on this article?
I noticed that too and am guessing yesterday or today. The first report about the shoes was yesterday. MOO
 
  • #492
I’m thinking the younger sisters story changes too much to believe that Hania was not already sitting inside the SUV.

The very first report says Hanis had started the SUV then stood outside the car waiting for her aunt.

Hania's sister said, “Out of nowhere the man came in and they took her away. She fell and screamed and we couldn’t hear what she told us and then we went over there anId we didn’t know what happened.”

"She just got the keys and started to turn it on," Heylin said. "And somewhere out of nowhere the man came in and took her away."

(If she “just started to turn it on” Hania would be inside the SUV.

The sister also says “ then THEY took her away” (they as in more then one person.)

I think the sisters story changes too much to believe Hanna was standing outside the SUV.

Video of Hania's sister describing what happened.
FOX 46 Charlotte

She also uses hand motions on the video when talking about the yellow bandana but then doesn’t use hand motions when talking about the man grabbing her sister!

The sister also says “ we went over there and we didn’t know what happened” after she also said that she seen the man force Hanna into the car.

Video of Hania's sister describing what happened.
FOX 46 Charlotte

The little sister only gave one video interview as far as I know. Her story to the press did not change. I listened to her video closely and it is clear to me she said "the man" and "he," she never said "men" or "they". Various news stations have miss-quoted her words and changed the pronouns she used. I think this is partly due to her fast speech, her accent (she is bilingual and learning English in the Southern US) and also perhaps because we have news stations translating things back and forth between the Spanish news sources.

Here is the little sister's video interview:

Another thing of note is that the little sister was not the only witness. A neighbor also heard Hania screaming and looked out the window.
 
  • #493
Thanks @PommyMommy
It seems every other report says something different (plus her ID card).
Hania, her sister, her mother and stepfather, two aunts and cousins all live in the home at Rosewood. That’s a full house.
 
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Lumberton mobile home residents concerned, scared after girl's kidnapping

Here is where some of the residents mention seeing Hania. And the aunt says she last saw Hania Sunday night.....so she wasn’t there when she was taken...but isn’t this the aunts home where she went missing? Is it the other aunt (vehicles owner) that was driving the children to the bus stop? I’m confused.
 
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Hania Aguilar Missing: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know | Heavy.com
1. “Hania was outside her home at the Rosewood Mobile Home Park located at 3525 Elizabethtown Road, Lumberton, North Carolina, on November 5, 2018 just before 7:00 a.m. She had gone outside just before her family left to drive to school. A witness heard her scream, looked outside, and saw a male subject dressed in all black and wearing a yellow bandana force Hania into a relative’s vehicle that was parked in the driveway.

2. “The Lumberton Police Department and the FBI ask for continued assistance with the investigation into the kidnapping of 13-year-old Hania Noelia Aguilar on November 5, 2018. Investigators have released surveillance footage of a person seen walking on surveillance video near the kidnapping scene. If you have any information as to the identity of this individual or any information in this case, contact the tip line at (910) 272-5871.”

3. “The stolen SUV was found just before 8:00 a.m. on November 8 off Quincey Drive in Lumberton, North Carolina,” the FBI reports.

“Someone called 911 and said they saw the vehicle backed into the woods. We immediately secured the scene and brought in the FBI’s Evidence Response Team to process the vehicle for evidence to find Hania.”

4. According to Shelley Lynch of FBI Charlotte, “Hania’s family calls her their princess, and they desperately miss her, and they just want their princess home.” Authorities have said they don’t believe Hania knew the person who abducted her.

Authorities have criticized social media posts trashing Hania’s mother.

5. The Lumberton Police and the FBI “are asking the public to be on the lookout for a pair of shoes that belong to 13-year-old Hania Noelia Aguilar,” police wrote on Facebook.

“Think through what you’ve seen since November 5th, have you seen a discarded pair of shoes, did someone try to sell you shoes, did they show up in a donation bin? We want to make sure we draw attention to the shoes because they are distinctive and the kidnapper could try and get rid of them for that reason,” said FBI Supervisory Senior Resident Agent Andy De la Rocha.

5. The Lumberton Police and the FBI “are asking the public to be on the lookout for a pair of shoes that belong to 13-year-old Hania Noelia Aguilar,” police wrote on Facebook.

“Think through what you’ve seen since November 5th, have you seen a discarded pair of shoes, did someone try to sell you shoes, did they show up in a donation bin? We want to make sure we draw attention to the shoes because they are distinctive and the kidnapper could try and get rid of them for that reason,” said FBI Supervisory Senior Resident Agent Andy De la Rocha.”

Would someone be dumb enough to post them on CL/Ebay, etc? Worth a shot sleuthers...I’m sure LE has checked, but maybe we can look too (Eta if you haven’t already started looking, sorry behind...)
 
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RSBM

Would someone be dumb enough to post them on CL/Ebay, etc? Worth a shot sleuthers...

I looked. Tried Craigslist and Ebay. I couldn't find any like that posted anywhere. Maybe a Facebook sales group? (I'm not on fb) I hope someone better than me at searching takes a look. I tried Poshmark too and didn't find one pair of shoes that looked like Hanias. :(
 
  • #497
From @PommyMommy ‘s link above:


“5. The Lumberton Police and the FBI “are asking the public to be on the lookout for a pair of shoes that belong to 13-year-old Hania Noelia Aguilar,” police wrote on Facebook.

“Think through what you’ve seen since November 5th, have you seen a discarded pair of shoes, did someone try to sell you shoes, did they show up in a donation bin? We want to make sure we draw attention to the shoes because they are distinctive and the kidnapper could try and get rid of them for that reason,” said FBI Supervisory Senior Resident Agent Andy De la Rocha.“

Would an abductor really take the time to find a donation bin or drop these off at goodwill, etc? I doubt it, moo. And even if a donation bin was handy...

Who knows...
 
  • #498
Where did they buy the shoes? (Insight into timeline, locations leading up, etc)

Going back to catch up.

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I looked. Tried Craigslist and Ebay. I couldn't find any like that posted anywhere. Maybe a Facebook sales group? (I'm not on fb) I hope someone better than me at searching takes a look. I tried Poshmark too and didn't find one pair of shoes that looked like Hanias. :(

ETA:
I just had a flashback of one perp who had all those shoes for sale online, who was that, was it Cosmo DiNardo? No, maybe someone else? Anyone remember that? Big bucks supposedly...
 
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Lumberton mobile home residents concerned, scared after girl's kidnapping

Here is where some of the residents mention seeing Hania. And the aunt says she last saw Hania Sunday night.....so she wasn’t there when she was taken...but isn’t this the aunts home where she went missing? Is it the other aunt (vehicles owner) that was driving the children to the bus stop? I’m confused.

So it is the aunt who is heard in the 911 call, is this correct?

How often did Hania go this aunt’s house? Maybe someone saw her there or interacted with her there before? Band what is the confirmed distance between her aunts house and her house? Tia. Sorry for regurgitation.
 
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Where did they buy the shoes? (Insight into timeline, locations leading up, etc)

Going back to catch up.

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ETA:
I just had a flashback of one perp who had all those shoes for sale online, who was that, was it Cosmo DiNardo? No, maybe someone else? Anyone remember that? Big bucks supposedly...

Yes, Cosmo -- the guy who murdered 4 men in PA. He sold shoes on facebook for extra money (I don't know that he ever got a chance to try to sell his victims shoes though).
 
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