NC - Iryna Zarutska, 23, slain on Commuter Rail Line, Charlotte - Some Content may be Graphic - Aug 22, 2025 *Arrest*

  • #101
Replying to my own post

Re the quote about not being legal guardian
OK
I can understand that.

But, surely, a Judge can order an aggressive & psychotic mentally ill person into a closed Institution to get a therapy, no?

🤔

Sending such a person on the streets, being homeless is... ummm....mind boggling IMO.

C'mon,
anybody can be attacked.

Anything can trigger such a person.
Nobody is safe, no child, no elderly person, no woman, no man.

Surely,
there are some procedures, aren't there?

I need to check them in my country (in Europe)
but those who threaten themselves (their own life) & others' lives are forcefully taken to mental hospital.
For their own good.

JMO
The ACLU IIRC sued and long involuntarily commitments are illegal unless it’s an offical criminal sentance
 
  • #102
Three strikes, mandatory minimums and BAIL

We need to return to what we know works!

judges without law degrees, prosecutors that defend the criminal and forget the victims and the revolving door for criminals must end.
Criminals can not run our cities
We deserve better.
Law and Order is civilization. It’s not racist.
IMO
 
  • #103
I heard it to.
I could not tell if he said it or a witness did.
There'd be no reason for anyone else to say "I got that white girl". No one else on the car did anything to any white girl, except the one who stabbed her to death.
 
  • #104
Zarutska had been staying in a bomb shelter in Ukraine before coming to the United States, the men said. She had a degree in art and restoration from a Kyiv college, Barnacle said. The special agent added that she quickly settled into Charlotte when she came to the city. “She made friends,” Barnacle said. “She immediately got a job the first day she was allowed to work; she got a work permit here... She worked at a senior citizen center. She worked at a pizza place. She took care of animals in the neighborhood... She had recently moved in with her partner.”

Read more at: https://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/local/crime/article312041787.html#storylink=cpy
 
  • #105
There'd be no reason for anyone else to say "I got that white girl". No one else on the car did anything to any white girl, except the one who stabbed her to death.
I couldn’t hear “I got”
I listened several times - different clips.
If you have a clearer one, please link it.
 
  • #106
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There were 5 other people sitting by him. Something specifically about her must have triggered his mental illness.
 
  • #107
I don't think the attack had anything to do with being "white".

The victim sat in front of him.
She was the closest to him in the whole carriage.
She had a phone.

He later said she "was reading his mind"
(was close & had a phone (antenna)
which - in his sick mind - was enough to trigger the paranoid attack.
He was observing her and lunged suddenly.

This was my theory from the start when I read about his illness.
It can be lethal when NOT treated.

Mixing this crime with racism seems to me politically motivated.
An agenda.

JMO
 
  • #108
I don't think the attack had anything to do with being "white".

The victim sat in front of him.
She was the closest to him in the whole carriage.
She had a phone.

He later said she "was reading his mind"
(was close & had a phone (antenna)
which - in his sick mind - was enough to trigger the paranoid attack.
He was observing her and lunged suddenly.

This was my theory from the start when I read about his illness.
It can be lethal when NOT treated.

Mixing this crime with racism seems to me politically motivated.
An agenda.

JMO
I'm not interested in discussing race here.

She was closest to him only at that point. Distance only matters in relative terms here. Before she got on the train, there was a different closest person to him.
 
  • #109
I am always so unbelievably stunned and disgusted when people do this. It just exposes a level of cruelty and a lack of compassion that my brain simply cannot wrap itself around. Do these people have no soul? Are they pod people? 👽👽👽

It’s rage inducing. Cell phones and social media are incinerating the fabric of our society, ISTG. It’s like these people no longer recognize human beings anymore. We’re all just living in a simulation where it’s more important to clock shock value situations and record them. It’s all about increasing that internet social standing, baby! 🤬😤
 
  • #110
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There were 5 other people sitting by him. Something specifically about her must have triggered his mental illness.

Not by him.
Across the aisle.
She is sitting precisely/DIRECTLY in front of him with the phone UP.
He is sitting huddled by the window & putting his hand on the forehead
("protecting his thoughts from phone signal"???)

Well,
That is how I see it.
He's sick.
Not taking medications and not attending therapy for a VERY serious illness.
Living on the street.

JMO!
But, of course,
there are as many opinions as there are people.
 
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  • #111
I don't think the attack had anything to do with being "white".

The victim sat in front of him.
She was the closest to him in the whole carriage.
She had a phone.

He later said she "was reading his mind"
(was close & had a phone (antenna)
which - in his sick mind - was enough to trigger the paranoid attack.
He was observing her and lunged suddenly.

This was my theory from the start when I read about his illness.
It can be lethal when NOT treated.

Mixing this crime with racism seems to me politically motivated.
An agenda.

JMO
I HATE that the death of this beautiful young woman is being used for political gain.
 
  • #112
Not by him.
Across the aisle.
She is sitting precisely/DIRECTLY in front of him with the phone UP.
He is sitting huddled by the window & putting his hand on the forehead
("protecting his thoughts from phone signal"???)

Well,
That is how I see it.
He's sick.
Not taking medications and not attending therapy for VERY serious illness.
Living on the street.

JMO!
But, of course,
there are as many opinions as there are people.
I suppose he was well enough to know he had to make a get-away. He was also aware enough that he took off his sweatshirt to cover up the blood.
 
  • #113
I HATE that the death of this beautiful young woman is being used for political gain.
I believe this poor young woman's murder is going to be the catalyst for massive, much needed changes. Citizens should have the reasonable expectation of safety and security riding public transportation, or walking their dog or jogging down a trail. There are clearly too many violent, blood-thirsty monsters being allowed to walk free. WS very own discussion forums are full of these cases with new ones being added EVERY day.

I don't want any of it to be about race, politics or anything other than justice for an innocent victim, the highest price paid for the butcher that murdered her and then sweeping changes that KEEP the monsters in their cages where they belong. Which then makes our cities safer for everyone, of every walk of life.
 
  • #114
I hate the fact that we have to see federal charges in cases like this. Assault, murder, these are state crimes. What we are seeing however is these cases just not being prosecuted and adjudicated properly. This creates the need for federal intervention which is NOT a good idea.

You know how it looks to me?
Somehow NC totally dropped the ball with this dude. He reminds me of Sebastian Zapeta who put a woman in NYC subway on fire.

Subways and mass transit are used by many people so there is additional danger. This video was seen in the whole world. It is incredibly scary. So the ultimate message probably is, if you (state) can't organize it, we'll (the feds) will organize it for you. I personally blame deinstitutionalization but in the end, it doesn't matter, the perpetrator is a menace to the society, whoever dropped the ball. How a person with schizophrenia ended up untreated and on the streets while we have injectable anti-psychotics is another question and the story needs to be traced. Where he is now, we the society have to be protected from him.
 
  • #115
I believe this poor young woman's murder is going to be the catalyst for massive, much needed changes. Citizens should have the reasonable expectation of safety and security riding public transportation, or walking their dog or jogging down a trail. There are clearly too many violent, blood-thirsty monsters being allowed to walk free. WS very own discussion forums are full of these cases with new ones being added EVERY day.

I don't want any of it to be about race, politics or anything other than justice for an innocent victim, the highest price paid for the butcher that murdered her and then sweeping changes that KEEP the monsters in their cages where they belong. Which then makes our cities safer for everyone, of every walk of life.

It may be not about race or politics but it is about deinstitutionalization too. It is a huge topic.
 
  • #116
I don't think the attack had anything to do with being "white".

The victim sat in front of him.
She was the closest to him in the whole carriage.
She had a phone.

He later said she "was reading his mind"
(was close & had a phone (antenna)
which - in his sick mind - was enough to trigger the paranoid attack.
He was observing her and lunged suddenly.

This was my theory from the start when I read about his illness.
It can be lethal when NOT treated.

Mixing this crime with racism seems to me politically motivated.
An agenda.

JMO

Replying to my own post

Re the quote about not being legal guardian.
OK
I can understand that.

But, surely, a Judge can order an aggressive & psychotic mentally ill person into a closed Institution to get a therapy, no?

🤔

Sending such a person on the streets, being homeless is... ummm....mind boggling IMO.

C'mon,
anybody can be attacked.

Anything can trigger such a person.
Nobody is safe, no child, no elderly person, no woman, no man.

Surely,
there are some procedures, aren't there?

JMO
No.
They’re living in the streets.
The insane
The addicted
 
  • #117
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There were 5 other people sitting by him. Something specifically about her must have triggered his mental illness.
There are some news articles with her dressed up in a gown- at a prom or something but I notice in the real life pictures, she is dressed very plainly- nothing attention catching, cap, T shirt. She does not look "rich," or particularly girly, or ostentatious, so even for the "blame the victim " folks, she was 100% blending into the wall paper. IMO.
 
  • #118
There are some news articles with her dressed up in a gown- at a prom or something but I notice in the real life pictures, she is dressed very plainly- nothing attention catching, cap, T shirt. She does not look "rich," or particularly girly, or ostentatious, so even for the "blame the victim " folks, she was 100% blending into the wall paper. IMO.
Agreed. She's just wearing her work uniform.
 
  • #119
  • #120

".... The mayor fired back in her most recent statement, blaming “a tragic failure by the courts and magistrates” for the death.
Charlotte Mayor Vi Lyles offered her condolences and was criticized for her initial responses to the slaying. In a statement Monday, she criticized the court system and pledged to improve public safety on transit...."

His release was conditioned on
a written promise he would appear for his next hearing, according to court records...."

Rbm.
A, "Written promise..." :rolleyes:
I'm curious to know how many of these promises given out by the judge are actually kept ?

Also from the CNN article -- it sounds more like the responsible parties for this murderer to be freely walking the streets are in total finger pointing and cya mode.

Also from the above link, even his own mother tried to get him put away in an institutional facility but was denied.

I am sorry for her, she knew he'd become dangerous to himself and others.

Also from the link :

"...He was sometimes aggressive and attacked his sister in 2022, she told CNN. Though he was arrested that night, she decided to drop the charges out of concern for her brother’s mental health issues...."
 

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