GUILTY NC - Jason Corbett, 39, murdered in his Wallburg home, 2 Aug 2015 #1

[wildebeest]

Here's an interesting article on Trazodone:

http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/...drug-is-little-known-antidepressant/index.htm

 

[searchinGirl]

Trazadone in non-therapeutic doses is prescribed for insomnia...it's very sedative and doesn't have the hallucinogenic side effects of other sleeping pills like ambien...however, males taking it are warned that a potential side effect is priopism...the same as viagara...

 

[emmalpage81]

see this also.. Read the indications..https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trazodone(wikilink is not cos i trust it, but it has stated half life of drug to be 7 hrs. That means that after 7 hours, no trace of this drug will be found in a person's system. Next to be analysed is the breakdown stages of the drug and the rate of synthesis
what time was the drug injested? what else was in the system?

Iam now beginning to wonder whether the beating was used to cover up a different kind of murder?

also it should be remembered that not ALL known drugs are 'tested for' in autopsy. There may have been others which were simply not detected

http://www.webmd.com/drugs/2/drug-11188/trazodone-oral ( better link, as in more reputable for medical stuff)

Very interesting. I had not put much thought into the presence of trazodone. A quick google of Trazodone and Bipolar has brought up many links which seems to suggest it is commonly prescribed (the lower dosage) to people suffering with bipolar to help them sleep - insomnia is a common trait of bipolar. So i would assume the prescription is Molly's.

http://www.healthline.com/health-blogs/bipolar-bites/sleep-medication-bipolar-disorder
https://www.elementsbehavioralhealth.com/depression/medications-depression-trazodone/

Just a sample.

The fact that it is a sleep agent may point as to why neither of the accused have any wounds - could you imagine trying to fight back whilst sedated? JC probably only had enough energy to try to protect himself rather than fight back.

All my own opinion.

 

[Conger]

As a thought and base on speculation and the thesis that could there have been a third party involved. Is there any other information on the previous boyfriend that mm had reconnected with on fb, could she have used her ways to influence someone to "help" her as she was in an "abusive" marriage ??? Also, looking at the photos of the neighbourhood, which appears to be affluent , I am wondering has it a gated enterance, if so would there be cctv cameras there, or would neighbours have cctv on their property, if so was this checked for any strange comings and goings, such as unfamiliar vehicles or people, this could also possibly give investigators an accurate time of arrival of tm and Sm to the area, just a thought ??

 

[stmarysmead]

It depends on the kind of gate...if there is one...into the community. In my neighborhood, we have to call in and request a pass for a visitor, which is then a matter of record. Both, who requested and who came in. We also do have cameras at the gate in addition to real gates and guards. But my daughter lived in a gated community that just had a code for the gate which could be given to anyone.

The good news is that nothing ever disappears from the Internet and the police certainly have a long record of her internet activity, including emails, Facebook, etc. These can be used to destroy her credibility. Molly seems so "over the top" on FB, that she probably has a lot of relevant information she can't even remember. In my opinion.

If this were my son, and I would not assume that the District Attorney case contains everything that the family may know or find out. I am no fan of bureaucracies. And I just don't think that everyone will put heart and soul into this case. It is not a well known case here in the US, though it may have gotten more local NC press than I may have seen. Therefore, if it were my son, I'd keep in close contact and send along every anecdote, witness name, old email from Molly or Jason, old pictures, info about this sedative in his system. Be as proactive as possible. Molly is paying for a top attorney. You need to help your attorney as much as you can or he will let you. But assume nothing. Be Jason's warrior.

I had a relative trying to deal with the Veterans Administration. I had to put in hours a day, repeat and send info, research who to contact. Finally, I got this relative what he needed but...the process going through the bureaucracy...demonstrated that personal involvement is a MUST. There are too many people either overworked or not really "involved" in being problem solvers. Papers were "lost." Information never passed on. But my relative was constantly "passed on" ...told it was "somebody else's job."

Molly seems to have an excellent lawyer. I wonder if he will try to get a plea deal so they never go to trial?

 

[kittythehare]

I agree. Her lawyer is brilliant, he will not risk losing his reputation here. He has lots of credibility.
it is more important than ever to do as you have suggested. Every single scrap of info needs collating. Ideally a private investigator who is thorough and familiar with the area, that society, neighbourhood should somehow be hired if funds allow. It could be 12 months before it actually goes to the real trial, but it could be sooner too. The Martens would be aware, with their lawyer how difficult it will be to obtain accurate facts from another country. Almost impossible, in fact..
Pro-activity is the key here.
Well said you!

 

[kittythehare]

Its actually contra-indicated in bi-polar disease.

 

[wildebeest]

As far as thinking about an insanity plea for MM, they usually don't work. It is extremely hard to prove in a court of law. Case in point, Andrea Yates, from Texas. She had serious mental illness and drowned her four children in a bathtub. Her lawyers tried the insanity defense, and it didn't work. So, if this is the plan for MM's attorney, they have an uphill battle. :twocents:

IMHO

 

[kittythehare]

Just a guess, she split from father of 6yr old daughter sometime after 2006, when she was posting the questions for toy advice for stepdaughter on Yahoo site, she got dumped and moved to Ireland to get away from it all? Some humiliation following loss of the relationship/stepchild? some disgrace? Something happened! And she moved to Ireland in 2008. Take this fantasy/theory/guess a step further and remember the lie discovered by Tracey Lynch at the wedding? Did Molly need to get outa town quickly and pretended to her friends that her friend had died suddenly in Ireland and she felt obliged to leave immediately to take care of her children? This is total theorising or ramblings, not facts.

http://www.pressreader.com/ireland/the-irish-mail-on-sunday/20150830/281492160075227/TextViewp

Molly graduated from High School in 2001. Her uncle is quoted in this article as saying she then "went" to Clemson. But it doesn't say she graduated. Indeed the article mentions her doing odd childcare jobs and trying to model(which apparently went nowhere.)

Clemson is a highly regarded school. If she graduated, one would think, especially with her family connections, she would have done more than babysitting.

So what's the real history of Molly Martens from 2001 to 2008 when she gets the Nanny job?

She is alleged to have told Jason's sister that she is bi-polar. That often manifests itself at late adolescence, college age.

Love ve to know more about Molly's missing years. Why is a "great student" from what seems like a well connected family...spending all those years before the nanny job...as a Babysitter, not a Nanny...according to her Uncle.

 

[fido]

Deputy C.S. Dagenhardt wrote in a report that while Deputy D. Dillard was in route to an assault at 160 Panther Creek Court, the Davidson County 911 Center advised the caller had been in an argument with his son-in-law and struck him with a baseball bat. DCSO patrol deputies arrived at the address and found a man inside the home with head injuries.

This is an article from the The Dispatch.com dated August 14th. When trying to solve the mystery of what Sharon Martens was doing while poor Jason was being attacked, we all wondered why she didn't call 911. Does the above article (and I recollect seeing something similar on an official form somewhere) mean that the police were called to a domestic disturbance, were en route and then received further information that there was an injured party with together with a suspect armed with baseball bat in the house? What do you think? I hope not, as this would validate their concocted account of what really happened.

 

[Hotchips]

Deputy C.S. Dagenhardt wrote in a report that while Deputy D. Dillard was in route to an assault at 160 Panther Creek Court, the Davidson County 911 Center advised the caller had been in an argument with his son-in-law and struck him with a baseball bat. DCSO patrol deputies arrived at the address and found a man inside the home with head injuries.

This is an article from the The Dispatch.com dated August 14th. When trying to solve the mystery of what Sharon Martens was doing while poor Jason was being attacked, we all wondered why she didn't call 911. Does the above article (and I recollect seeing something similar on an official form somewhere) mean that the police were called to a domestic disturbance, were en route and then received further information that there was an injured party with together with a suspect armed with baseball bat in the house? What do you think? I hope not, as this would validate their concocted account of what really happened.

@fido I have often seen this quoted the last few months and read it in the same context as you. Often wondered about this. The first time I saw it it struck me as though the police were already on their way to the house to look into a report of an assault and the patrol car received this further information that jason was hit with a baseball bat while enroute making the matter much more serious indeed. Perhaps it's the way its written I do not know. Did Sharon make a seperate call from the basement while tom went upstairs....only the 911 call centre can answer this. This is why I'm trying to keep am open mind on the matter. So much more will surface. A certain amount of evidence has been released but I feel a lot more is be held back for trial purposes. Maybe I'm wrong about the call, could be my reading of it.

 

[kittythehare]

No, it refers to the messages being conveyed from the despatch centre person to the emt crew.. as she was receiving further info from tm, she was passing it on. this standard practice, because if a gun had been used emt crew would have been advised they were entering a dangerous area with an armed suspect and possibly police would have been called first in that case

 

[ALansby]

@fido I have often seen this quoted the last few months and read it in the same context as you. Often wondered about this. The first time I saw it it struck me as though the police were already on their way to the house to look into a report of an assault and the patrol car received this further information that jason was hit with a baseball bat while enroute making the matter much more serious indeed. Perhaps it's the way its written I do not know. Did Sharon make a seperate call from the basement while tom went upstairs....only the 911 call centre can answer this. This is why I'm trying to keep am open mind on the matter. So much more will surface. A certain amount of evidence has been released but I feel a lot more is be held back for trial purposes. Maybe I'm wrong about the call, could be my reading of it.

However, if this turns out to be so that it happened while the police were enroute, it certainly explains why the overkill. Although I am inclined to believe Jason's brutal assault occurred significantly prior to the 911 call.

 

[stmarysmead]

No, it refers to the messages being conveyed from the despatch centre person to the emt crew.. as she was receiving further info from tm, she was passing it on. this standard practice, because if a gun had been used emt crew would have been advised they were entering a dangerous area with an armed suspect and possibly police would have been called first in that case

I agree. In listening to the 9-11 call, it's obvious that the 911 operator is relaying information from the home to the EMT on their way.

As for Molly graduating from Clemson, I find that hard to believe. With a degree from a good school, why would she not have found an entry level job in her career path? She essentially disappears and then surfaces doing childcare. Why is there no information to be found about her life in those years? I think her bipolar disease began...it caused her to have to drop out of school...sometimes, depending on the severity of the illness, getting the medications sorted out can take a very long time. Sometimes a period of hospitalization is required,as with a family I know well.

Where are her social media pages from those years? The girl just drops off the radar.

 

[Hotchips]

However, if this turns out to be so that it happened while the police were enroute, it certainly explains why the overkill. Although I am inclined to believe Jason's brutal assault occurred significantly prior to the 911 call.

Yeah I'm unsure what to think of when it happened. It's an odd time of night to have a row but then again very possible I guess...the autopsy doesn't have any reference to the actual time of death which i thought the medical examiner might have given an opinion on it. i read the whole report to see if i could find it referenced anywhere and assume its being held back for evidence purposes.

 

[stmarysmead]

Just an opinion here...but much has been made about Mr. Martens training with the FBI...training to be in control, etc.

So let's say he sees his daughter being strangled. Does he run off to get the bat? Would a father take hat chance.

So let's say, he sees the bat in the bedroom...where is his professional "control" in the overkill we see in the autopsy? Why is t Jason just knocked out?

How is a brick in the bedroom and why is Jason beaten with the brick as well?

If this fight started and a call was made, and the police are on their way, why is Jason beaten over and over with two weapons? Just STOP him...if this story is true...help is on the way. These are horrific injuries.

They were inflicted by someone or more than one...person who is in a rage. This is a rage killing. Not a preventive "rescue" with police on the way.

 

[kittythehare]

how does strangling sound?
Its quiet, isn't it? gurgle gurgle type thing.. would be hard to hear from a floor away..
call was not made until the attack was over.. not sure how many of his injuries were received post mortem.
But rigor mortis sets in after about 60 minutes, whereas blood can clot and dry much quicker.. Also some of the injuries on autopsy look to be inflicted with a sharp object.. paving stone? not sure.. marks are uniform.. like a nail attached to something heavy.. or a blade, like a hammer, wonder whether some other object was also used but not discovered?

 

[Hotchips]

I agree. In listening to the 9-11 call, it's obvious that the 911 operator is relaying information from the home to the EMT on their way.

As for Molly graduating from Clemson, I find that hard to believe. With a degree from a good school, why would she not have found an entry level job in her career path? She essentially disappears and then surfaces doing childcare. Why is there no information to be found about her life in those years? I think her bipolar disease began...it caused her to have to drop out of school...sometimes, depending on the severity of the illness, getting the medications sorted out can take a very long time. Sometimes a period of hospitalization is required,as with a family I know well.

Where are her social media pages from those years? The girl just drops off the radar.

If molly did actually graduate from Clemson with a degree having started in the fall of 2002 ( as it would appear she was a freshman from the yearbook in 2002/2003 school year) she would have graduated in 2006 if she was doing the regular 4 year degree, then if she went to emory for a post grad that would minimum of a one year course of study perhaps two depending on the structure of the particular course she was doing which would mean she either graduated from there in 2007 or 2008 just prior to coming to Ireland. If indeed she did complete her studies, where did she work in 2007-2008 prior to coming to Ireland, she must have advised Jason and/or au pair agency of some experience with children. Did she work part time childminding duringthe summer months while at university like a lot of students do as its quite a lucrative earner in the US certainly in NYC it is...if so, there must be families somewhere who would have good knowledge of it her. Either that or she left Clemson in 2003 and was not up to much until 2008. I do agree that the picture posted above from 2006 does look very like her.

 

[kittythehare]

there is a time given on the EMT report, however it does not state definitively whether there were any signs of life at all when they commenced treatment.

 

[Hotchips]

there is a time given on the EMT report, however it does not state definitively whether there were any signs of life at all when they commenced treatment.

I think in general the EMT time is the time they stopped compressions and declared him as deceased. The medical examiner would know from the autopsy in terms of rigor etc whether or not this time tallies. If he was killed much earlier, they would be able to prove this.