GUILTY NC - Jason Corbett, 39, murdered in his Wallburg home, 2 Aug 2015 #2

[Hotchips]

It could well have belonged to Molly if she had lost a child or children before birth. It could even belong to Molly if pregnancy was just a hope.

Yes i agree, that thought had crossed my mind too. I think what we know so far really only scratches the surface in relation to what was going on in their marriage. Much more to this to come out yet.

 

[emmalpage81]

Emma, I imagine that upon discovery they found the rationale Shipwash used for his decision and they are now saying it was flawed or not argued fully. However, the children are Irish, with Irish passports and I think that takes precedence. Its marely tactical, inflammatory and provocative, its sole aim is probably to establish proof that Molly cannot receive a fair trial in NC- thats the fire they are feeding. Molly is not native to NC and is therefore an 'outsider' who will be dealt with impartially due to outsider status. Prosecution would prefer if trial happened in an area where they would have more 'power'.

Agree, for me its hard to see what they feel they can gain from this. We know that her actual civil lawyer - who is instructed in the estate issues - has lodged an appeal. She now has her criminal lawyer - who was not representing her in this case - lodging a motion some 4 days later. I do not know what the rules are in the US but my legal understanding would be that he would not have the legal standing to make any application in a case where he is not instructed. I would have thought that he would have to formally come on record as acting for her before he would have the standing to make any application to the court especially one where he is questioning the integrity of a member of the judiciary.

 

[emmalpage81]

I don't think it is necessary odd that there was a crib. It may have held great sentimental importance. I still have my son's crib (albeit in the attic!) Given that they were just getting married it may have been brought in anticipation of them having children in the future.

 

[emmalpage81]

Just a thought. If JC had moved household belongings to the US in 2011 it would have been packed and loaded onto a shipping container. Would they not have held an inventory of what was in each container for insurance purposes? If so, it would be easy enough to identify if any of the belongings removed pre-dated the marriage. I remember seeing a post on the JFJ page which mentioned a dining room table that JC and MC had purchased - the items removed on the Nancy Grace show also mentioned a table and chairs being removed from the dining room.

 

[Logic-lady]

I think Holton has waded into this because he was alarmed at adverse publicity surrounding Mr SHipwashs ruling. It has painted his client in negative light and he is trying to salvage her image by putting up a smokescreen surrounding the basis for the ruling on the property case. The ruling may not be changed but he can create enough doubt in the publics mind over whether the ruling was correct. It's a ploy. Regarding the furniture and whether any physical evidence is still evident from same, I sincerely doubt it. CSI would have gathered all they needed st this statge. I am now doubting that poor Jason was murdered whilst in bed. The mattress would not have been salvageable after that sustained attack and that's one of the things that she took.

I agree re Holton, I think he realised that the public perception of Molly was spinning out of control and needed damage limitation. They cannot dispute the fact that she took the items so the only option is to discredit the system that denied the items to her in the first place. Also someone posted on here a few pages back (sorry don't have time just now to find the exact post!) that Davidson County is not Holton's normal playing field, so by discrediting Judge Shipwash and claiming Molly would be hard pressed to get a fair trial there, they could move to have the trial held in a county he is more influencial in. I think this is a distinct possibility.

Also, I find it strange given the undertones to the domestic violence claims that Molly would want the bed from the Master suite...I have no experience with DV so maybe I'm reading too much into this but it would seem to me that if what Molly is implying is true (or indeed what Truthseeker79 suggested - Molly being choked by Jason on the bed and grabbing the rock from the bedside locker to defend herself - actually happened) the last thing she would want would be constant reminders of the horror of that night. I can't imagine her tucking herself into that same bed with the same nightstands in a new home if she is found innocent...but as I say maybe that's just my perspective.

And finally, do we actually know that the attack happened in the master suite? I find it strange, given the crime scene reports, that all of the furniture in the Master bedrom was moved to storage (again macabre in my opinion) but none of the furniture from the Guest Room Main Level was removed. (This information is from the Nancy Grace article so not sure how reliable it is!) Could this tie in to the premise that they were sleeping seperately at the time of the attack?

 

[Hotchips]

And finally, do we actually know that the attack happened in the master suite? I find it strange, given the crime scene reports, that all of the furniture in the Master bedrom was moved to storage (again macabre in my opinion) but none of the furniture from the Guest Room Main Level was removed. (This information is from the Nancy Grace article so not sure how reliable it is!) Could this tie in to the premise that they were sleeping seperately at the time of the attack?

I wonder about the furniture removed from various rooms in the house. There is reference to two guest rooms, one on the main level which to me would mean the ground floor and then another but it doesnt say exactly where it is. was this guest room on the same level as the main master bedroom as in on the second floor of the house. however wasnt tom and sharon supposedly staying in the basement? No mention of furniture such as beds etc taken from here only things from the bathroom and the storage area. was one of these guest bedrooms just off the basement perhaps and be classed as being at basement level? Be great to see a layout plan of the house.

 

[searchinGirl]

The clerk of superior court in NC has limited authority... http://www.nccourts.org/Courts/OCO/Clerk/Default.asp
I think Holton filed this latest motion To move this matter into superior court to be heard by an appointed Judge and away from Shipwash who probably isn't a lawyer...

 

[Hotchips]

The clerk of superior court in NC has limited authority... http://www.nccourts.org/Courts/OCO/Clerk/Default.asp
I think Holton filed this latest motion To move this matter into superior court to be heard by an appointed Judge and away from Shipwash who probably isn't a lawyer...

I was looking up his position, he is an elected official and was attending Charlotte Law School up to 2015 however can't find any reference to him having sat and passed the bar exam. They are certainly digging for dirt to discredit his rulings so far.

 

[kittythehare]

I agree re Holton, I think he realised that the public perception of Molly was spinning out of control and needed damage limitation. They cannot dispute the fact that she took the items so the only option is to discredit the system that denied the items to her in the first place. Also someone posted on here a few pages back (sorry don't have time just now to find the exact post!) that Davidson County is not Holton's normal playing field, so by discrediting Judge Shipwash and claiming Molly would be hard pressed to get a fair trial there, they could move to have the trial held in a county he is more influencial in. I think this is a distinct possibility.

Also, I find it strange given the undertones to the domestic violence claims that Molly would want the bed from the Master suite...I have no experience with DV so maybe I'm reading too much into this but it would seem to me that if what Molly is implying is true (or indeed what Truthseeker79 suggested - Molly being choked by Jason on the bed and grabbing the rock from the bedside locker to defend herself - actually happened) the last thing she would want would be constant reminders of the horror of that night. I can't imagine her tucking herself into that same bed with the same nightstands in a new home if she is found innocent...but as I say maybe that's just my perspective.

And finally, do we actually know that the attack happened in the master suite? I find it strange, given the crime scene reports, that all of the furniture in the Master bedrom was moved to storage (again macabre in my opinion) but none of the furniture from the Guest Room Main Level was removed. (This information is from the Nancy Grace article so not sure how reliable it is!) Could this tie in to the premise that they were sleeping seperately at the time of the attack?

we only know from the search warrants that TM alleged the attack upon molly occurred in the master bedroom 'behind the door'. I have been unable to find an interior plan of the house so cannot say whether the door opened inwards or outwards, to the left or to the right. But if the Nancy Grace info is accurate,it probably is, it makes the scenario of Jason being asleep in bed at the time of the attack unlikely as the mattress would have been destroyed with blood.
I agree with all your other points

 

[kittythehare]

The clerk of superior court in NC has limited authority... http://www.nccourts.org/Courts/OCO/Clerk/Default.asp
I think Holton filed this latest motion To move this matter into superior court to be heard by an appointed Judge and away from Shipwash who probably isn't a lawyer...

I was unable to open your link so I did a separate search..one link- Brian Shipwash .com is said to be hacked! Thats a bit strange.
heres his election manifesto for 2014 and 2018 - http://www.brianshipwash.com/campaign.html
http://www.brianshipwash.com/aboutme.html- his qualifications, he is a member of NC Bar Association
Ruling on Jack and Sarah- https://static.rasset.ie/documents/news/corbett-order.pdf

 

[Frizby]

Shipwash has responded to The Dispatch of Lexington regarding the allegations and the suggestion for him to be removed.

“I sent attorney Griggs a rough draft of the order, and the final order is reflective of that rough draft,” Shipwash said. “… Therefore, I am satisfied that (Corbett) was not prejudiced in any way from that communication.”

Shipwash provided a statement Wednesday to The Dispatch. “Due to the pending matter it would not be proper for me to comment on the matter outside of saying: nothing in our state law or common practices precludes the court from directing the prevailing party to draft an order on its behalf,” the clerk wrote. “This practice is routine in most civil/estate related cases. (Corbett’s) counsel was given the opportunity to review the final draft and recommend changes prior to being signed which is the crux of the issue. The majority of the alleged ‘violations’ apply to the attorneys involved and not the clerk of superior court, and I am confident upon the superior court’s review they will arrive at the same conclusion that the informal communication involved technical aspects of the final judgment, rather than substantive issues litigated at trial and is one of the four types of informal communications that is protected. In this matter I was acting as a judge ... and will continue to act as one.”

http://www.the-dispatch.com/article/20160316/news/160319836

 

[stephanddoody]

Shipwash determined last week that Molly Corbett violated a consent order by removing property from the Panther Creek Court home she previously shared with her husband. Corbett appeared Feb. 2 in court and testified about the removal of property from the home. Shipwash wrote in last week’s order that Corbett failed to work in good faith with the executor of the estate’s counsel “through what the court deems a perverse determination of ownership and manipulation of intent by (Corbett) removing the majority of the tangible personal property described in the consent order.”

The consent order stated that Corbett should cease use of any and all assets inherited from her husband that are potentially payable to the estate or payable to Corbett as a result of Jason Corbett's death. Those proceeds include automobiles, tangible personal property and brokerage and insurance policies.


Among his stipulations in the ruling, Shipwash ordered that all assets, including all insurance proceeds, shall be turned over immediately to the court and shall be held by the court until the court or other courts with jurisdiction order otherwise.

Thanks for the link Fribzy.

 

[Frizby]

The first article from the Winston Salem Journal stuck me as quite sensationalism on two fronts. The first of course was the attack on the Judge but the other where they seem to be steering the issue of the property to be a money issue rather than the fact that was MM did was actually in breach of a previous Consent Order. The agreement was entered into by both parties as detailed in Marshleon's post number #703. So why do this when it was clear from the Orders what the issues were?

Now I don't know how legal stuff works in the US but the second article suggests what was done between the judge and counsel was quite normal in cases such as this, an explanation which I accept as it sounds reasonable but also for the fact that MM lawyers were given the final draft before it was signed so they could make any changes if they wished.

MM was given every opportunity to prove her defence when this case came to court but she choose not to. Her choice not to provide back up imo could only be for two reasons, 1) she was not accepting that she had to & the judge should rule in her favour because she said she bought them or 2) providing backup would lead to even more questions. Prior to the removal of the property, he lawyers informed the other side that they would be removing personal property but what was done was not this, what was done was the entire house was cleared out apart from items personally owned by JC & his children. This all seems a ploy to discredit the Judge so the custody case can be reopened and personally from reading the custody issues and ruling I cannot see how reopening this will have any different outcome.

The gloves are most definitely off and this is only on the property case, you can only imagine what is going to happen when the Criminal Trial comes about.


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Happy St Patrick's Day to everyone on here

 

[searchinGirl]

I was unable to open your link so I did a separate search..one link- Brian Shipwash .com is said to be hacked! Thats a bit strange.
heres his election manifesto for 2014 and 2018 - http://www.brianshipwash.com/campaign.html
http://www.brianshipwash.com/aboutme.html- his qualifications, he is a member of NC Bar Association
Ruling on Jack and Sarah- https://static.rasset.ie/documents/news/corbett-order.pdf

thanks for the links...I didn't mean to imply that Shipwash isn't good he got it right on the custody situation ... it was the right thing to do and I think everybody sees that... I appreciate that he's become a lawyer while serving as Clerk as he seems to have passion for the law...but, I believe all Molton had to do to get this matter moved to Superior Court was file the Appeal...and he threw in a few professional insults on the side about ethics violations...as he's obviously angry and seems confident he will prevail on precedent but, I'm sure he won't get anywhere with the custody review...

The slayer statute could be confusing the issue here but I have to say that I'm having a hard time understanding how showing evidence of the transfers Jason made prior to moving his family to the states and marrying Molly proves ownership of tangible personal property... $340K for the home probably to an escrow account for closing the house that became joint property and is now part of the estate... I'm not sure if $50K wedding expenses in this day and age are reasonable or not but if you're buying your bridesmaid's dresses (and travel too?) I guess maybe so...I've known men to pay for their bride's big day (one in particular who is Irish) so I don't know how you recover those expenses ... then, the $80K to Molly...does Molly have a Trust Fund? maybe one she shares with her mother? did she get paid for being nanny? I'm sure that income stream never stopped flowing in her mind when she became wife but she did start out working for him...my point being that there are other explanations beyond the scope of the slayer statute to rule she acted in bad faith when moving the property...I think this is about money and none of it will enter into her murder trial...just my opinion...

But, as far as perverse reasoning on ownership...it's so southern...I'll never forget my Dad telling me about his will...he started out with "Darlin' let me tell you how it is in marriage. there's her money, that she had before she married me and whatever she inherited from her parents...there's our money, that is everything I've ever earned or saved while we've been married...and there's my money that she let me spend on weekends"...I mean, I doubt the judge hasn't heard that line of reasoning before ...but, shame on Molly, if she loved those children like she says she would have at least left them the bedroom suites she bought them ...that would have been telling to me ...however I'm sure on the day of the move in her mind it was the last time she would see the place...taking care of business before possibly spending the rest of her life in prison...she has to have faced that reality by now...it's like drama from Orange is the New Black...

anyway, I hope this link works for you ... I think I found the floor plan for the house http://www.isenhourhomes.com/model-floorplan.cfm?plan=30&name=cortney-french-country
it's a model sold by the builders of that neighborhood with the side entry garage door (scroll down to see elevation) and a gazebo-like framing on the left side ...if it is, the "Owner's Suite" aka Master Bedroom takes up almost half the main level on the left side of the house...the basement stairs going down is across from there where supposedly there is a guest room...stairs also go up to where the two children's bedrooms mostly likely were...I hope they slept through what happened that night but I don't see how...I pray for them...

 

[kittythehare]

thanks for the links...I didn't mean to imply that Shipwash isn't good he got it right on the custody situation ... it was the right thing to do and I think everybody sees that... I appreciate that he's become a lawyer while serving as Clerk as he seems to have passion for the law...but, I believe all Molton had to do to get this matter moved to Superior Court was file the Appeal...and he threw in a few professional insults on the side about ethics violations...as he's obviously angry and seems confident he will prevail on precedent but, I'm sure he won't get anywhere with the custody review...

The slayer statute could be confusing the issue here but I have to say that I'm having a hard time understanding how showing evidence of the transfers Jason made prior to moving his family to the states and marrying Molly proves ownership of tangible personal property... $340K for the home probably to an escrow account for closing the house that became joint property and is now part of the estate... I'm not sure if $50K wedding expenses in this day and age are reasonable or not but if you're buying your bridesmaid's dresses (and travel too?) I guess maybe so...I've known men to pay for their bride's big day (one in particular who is Irish) so I don't know how you recover those expenses ... then, the $80K to Molly...does Molly have a Trust Fund? maybe one she shares with her mother? did she get paid for being nanny? I'm sure that income stream never stopped flowing in her mind when she became wife but she did start out working for him...my point being that there are other explanations beyond the scope of the slayer statute to rule she acted in bad faith when moving the property...I think this is about money and none of it will enter into her murder trial...just my opinion...

But, as far as perverse reasoning on ownership...it's so southern...I'll never forget my Dad telling me about his will...he started out with "Darlin' let me tell you how it is in marriage. there's her money, that she had before she married me and whatever she inherited from her parents...there's our money, that is everything I've ever earned or saved while we've been married...and there's my money that she let me spend on weekends"...I mean, I doubt the judge hasn't heard that line of reasoning before ...but, shame on Molly, if she loved those children like she says she would have at least left them the bedroom suites she bought them ...that would have been telling to me ...however I'm sure on the day of the move in her mind it was the last time she would see the place...taking care of business before possibly spending the rest of her life in prison...she has to have faced that reality by now...it's like drama from Orange is the New Black...

anyway, I hope this link works for you ... I think I found the floor plan for the house http://www.isenhourhomes.com/model-floorplan.cfm?plan=30&name=cortney-french-country
it's a model sold by the builders of that neighborhood with the side entry garage door (scroll down to see elevation) and a gazebo-like framing on the left side ...if it is, the "Owner's Suite" aka Master Bedroom takes up almost half the main level on the left side of the house...the basement stairs going down is across from there where supposedly there is a guest room...stairs also go up to where the two children's bedrooms mostly likely were...I hope they slept through what happened that night but I don't see how...I pray for them...

Thanks, but garage is integral in this house.. its not at 160..
Its not so much about slayer statute, its about an agreement that was already made and signed off by all parties. She broke it by removing pretty much everything. She broke it without consulting Lynch lawyers. She broke it unlawfully and without permission.
The funds are being queried because she is stating she owned everything she took. She is being asked to prove this and she is failing. She has further stated that her parents' credit cards paid for some of this furniture, so they were subpnoead as well.
Apart from plain common sense and the few facts we have regarding her earnings during the entire marriage, we would need to be insane to accept Molly owned and paid for the fittings and furniture.
At best, they all belong to the estate.
The estate will be determined after the trial.
Up until then, nobody had a right to remove a single stick of furniture from that house without permission from lawyers and courts.
Thats the whole point.
also remember there were substantial cash withdrawals from joint a/cs following the murder. The cash withdrawals were made by Molly and she has not been punished for this.
There are also the somewhat disturbing calls made by her uncle to the Insurance companies a few hours after Jason's body had been removed from the house for the last time.

 

[searchinGirl]

Thanks, but garage is integral in this house.. its not at 160..

I'm not sure what you mean...but the floor plan for this model can be either a front entry or side entry...and the sitting area on the left side can be square or gazebo-like...plus there is the picture of Molly with little Sarah and the front door in the background...and it kind of matches the diagram at the county...I think it fits...please look again...

 

[kittythehare]

I'm not sure what you mean...but the floor plan for this model can be either a front entry or side entry...and the sitting area on the left side can be square or gazebo-like...plus there is the picture of Molly with little Sarah and the front door in the background...and it kind of matches the diagram at the county...I think it fits...please look again...

I will for sure but all I got on the link was a model of a house, address was not there.. just a style of house.. was I meant to key address in? Sorry but hopeless with techy?

 

[Frizby]

I'm not sure what you mean...but the floor plan for this model can be either a front entry or side entry...and the sitting area on the left side can be square or gazebo-like...plus there is the picture of Molly with little Sarah and the front door in the background...and it kind of matches the diagram at the county...I think it fits...please look again...

I don't think it's the house either. But I found this house that is pretty much identical, albeit only pictures not a floor plan. http://clickscape.com/ga/covington/160-homestead-way/2:5560594

Also, was looking at the real estate details of the property for 160 Panthers Creek & they all say that garage is attached. And the estate details when JC purchased the property show an overall sqft of 5,476 which includes basement & garage. Effective living area appears to be 3,327 sqft although I am not that up on reading these documents.
http://www.co.davidson.nc.us/taxnet/AppraisalCard.aspx?idP=5534437&Action=Auto

 

[kittythehare]

I'm not sure what you mean...but the floor plan for this model can be either a front entry or side entry...and the sitting area on the left side can be square or gazebo-like...plus there is the picture of Molly with little Sarah and the front door in the background...and it kind of matches the diagram at the county...I think it fits...please look again...

Tried it again.. same thing.. so this must be a country thing? http://www.isenhourhomes.com/model-floorplan.cfm?plan=30&name=cortney-french-country.. browser prob?
Reason I needed it wqs to see whether
there were concrete floors between ground floor master bedroom level and basement
I needed master bedroom location and its distance to all other rooms on that floor, and I wanted to see whether door opened in or out, left or right, location of bed to door.. this all to track TM allegation that Molly was being strangled inside bedroom door or behind it.. its like a crazy jigsaw where the pieces are not matching, yet I'm intrigued because he had plenty of time to get at least that aspect of his story credible for his police interview. I also wanted it to try understand why Jason was naked, had he just had a shower? Where was bathroom located? What brought the fight to 'inside the bedroom door' as opposed to close to bed or a window?

 

[kittythehare]

I don't think it's the house either. But I found this house that is pretty much identical, albeit only pictures not a floor plan. http://clickscape.com/ga/covington/160-homestead-way/2:5560594

Also, was looking at the real estate details of the property for 160 Panthers Creek & they all say that garage is attached. And the estate details when JC purchased the property show an overall sqft of 5,476 which includes basement & garage. Effective living area appears to be 3,327 sqft although I am not that up on reading these documents.
http://www.co.davidson.nc.us/taxnet/AppraisalCard.aspx?idP=5534437&Action=Auto

Garage separate, its behind the house of 160 Panther Creek.