GUILTY NC - Jason Corbett, 39, murdered in his Wallburg home, 2 Aug 2015 #3

[Truthalways]

I'm sorry searchin girl on reading my post back i should have said ' Tear apart her credibility.

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[searchinGirl]

I'd say that you yourself answered it. She was happiest when she had children. She built her world around JC and SC and then someone threatened that. Somebody was going to ruin it and take away the only thing she wanted, I would dare say the only thing she felt she had accomplished.

I completely agree with what you say...it's just that first degree murder theory that the Sherriffs office put together vs. the second degree murder theory that the DA is prosecuting...JMO but she's not pleading not guilty by reason of insanity where her medical records would most surely come in...if she was charged with first degree murder her manipulations might show premeditation...but she's been charged with second degree murder and her medical records might be irrelevant to her right to defend herself..plus that JC had trazodone in his system that was more than likely Molly's prescription takes the shine off a bit...regardless of the effect it may or may not have on him...it's illegal to take someone else's drugs... IMO (not going to be popular I know)... Holton will get his change of venue ... and, will keep everything out that doesn't pertain to that early morning argument that turned fatal...

 

[searchinGirl]

It will hopefully prove that she has lied under oath regarding her medical history ??

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I don't think the proceedings from the custody hearing can be used against her in a criminal trial...she wouldn't have been properly read her rights...

 

[stmarysmead]

I completely agree with what you say...it's just that first degree murder theory that the Sherriffs office put together vs. the second degree murder theory that the DA is prosecuting...JMO but she's not pleading not guilty by reason of insanity where her medical records would most surely come in...if she was charged with first degree murder her manipulations might show premeditation...but she's been charged with second degree murder and her medical records might be irrelevant to her right to defend herself..plus that JC had trazodone in his system that was more than likely Molly's prescription takes the shine off a bit...regardless of the effect it may or may not have on him...it's illegal to take someone else's drugs... IMO (not going to be popular I know)... Holton will get his change of venue ... and, will keep everything out that doesn't pertain to that early morning argument that turned fatal...

SearchinGirl,

You are omitting the very bedrock upon which the Prosecution will build his case: the autopsy that shows overkill and the examination of the two killers that show not ONE injury. This is where the case begins.

Now considering the bloody, broken body assailed with both bat and brick...one would logically assume that Jason was an equal combatant. The only way to justify two weapons and the horrific extent of the injuries is if he was putting up a great fight defending himself. In that case, we should see evidence on the bodies of the two other combatants that they NEEDED to keep battering him...to the death...because he wouldn't stop assaulting THEM. Therefore they "feared for their lives."

But the examination of their bodies that morning show no injuries to support that contention.

To give you an example, suppose you came home and found that I'd beaten your cat to death. My explanation...the cat attacked me and I had to kill it. But I have not...one...scratch...or...bite. Story doesnt quite jibe, does it?

This is the bedrock Prosecution case.

Already, the Defense contention of what happened appears to be a lie. It has no substance to back it up, only the word of the killers.

At that point, the credibility of the killers, particularly MM becomes tantamount. If she has lied about her medical history, her time in a pysch ward, her prescriptions, her personality disorder, her rages, her mood swings...every lie is another building block to her conviction.

That is the way the prosecution will use this newest information...as the perfect accompaniment to lies the autopsy and lack of injuries...exposes.

 

[Logic-lady]

I completely agree with what you say...it's just that first degree murder theory that the Sherriffs office put together vs. the second degree murder theory that the DA is prosecuting...JMO but she's not pleading not guilty by reason of insanity where her medical records would most surely come in...if she was charged with first degree murder her manipulations might show premeditation...but she's been charged with second degree murder and her medical records might be irrelevant to her right to defend herself..plus that JC had trazodone in his system that was more than likely Molly's prescription takes the shine off a bit...regardless of the effect it may or may not have on him...it's illegal to take someone else's drugs... IMO (not going to be popular I know)... Holton will get his change of venue ... and, will keep everything out that doesn't pertain to that early morning argument that turned fatal...

I like that you challenge the general train of thought, and so please take this as healthy debate as intended -
How do we know Jason willingly took her prescription? What if he was drugged by someone else?

I think it is very possible that the prosecution are playing a very safe game here, I don't think there are many jurors who will look on an attractive, young, Christian lady who has selflessly raised two young children as her own, made a happy 'home, sweet, home' and volunteers in the local community and then prosecute her for first degree murder. I think once there is even the slightest hint that there were any kind of mental health issues, not to mention the mere suggestion of DV would be enough to ensure at least some of the twelve would find her innocent. Second degree would have a stronger chance of getting a unanimous verdict. IMO

 

[stmarysmead]

I believe it's very possible that, after a very through investigation, the Prosecution has a few real stunners. Just a hunch, of course.

 

[stmarysmead]

If I were the DA I would say this to the jury..."You have been told two very different stories in this trial: one by the Defense and the other...NOT BY ME...but by the autopsy and the examination of the un-bruised and un-broken bodies of Jason's killers.

Then I would use the analogy of coming home to find your pet beaten and battered to death with the "abuse excuse" but not a wound or bite or bruise on the killers to show. It's strange how people can hear of Jason's brains sticking to the walls and furniture...as I believe they will hear...and not comprehend the full force of the human brutality...but with a pet...

Speaking of the horror scene in the bedroom, I imagine the DA will ask...with blows of such force that the poor man's brains are sticking to the bureau and the walls...just how many times was it necessary to....umm...batter him to stop him? How will they justify continuing the heinous battering? How will they justify a second weapon.

Then he will remind them of other lies. And her troubled past.

Of course, these are just my opinions. Maybe others are not as horrified as I.

 

[kittythehare]

I completely agree with what you say...it's just that first degree murder theory that the Sherriffs office put together vs. the second degree murder theory that the DA is prosecuting...JMO but she's not pleading not guilty by reason of insanity where her medical records would most surely come in...if she was charged with first degree murder her manipulations might show premeditation...but she's been charged with second degree murder and her medical records might be irrelevant to her right to defend herself..plus that JC had trazodone in his system that was more than likely Molly's prescription takes the shine off a bit...regardless of the effect it may or may not have on him...it's illegal to take someone else's drugs... IMO (not going to be popular I know)... Holton will get his change of venue ... and, will keep everything out that doesn't pertain to that early morning argument that turned fatal...

Seriously, even if he had an elephant in his system, he was savagely brutally battered to death, with head blows.. no attempt to disarm or disengage him, just straight blow to head, blow after blow after blow..
Head shots are considered warcrimes in armed situations.
The man who claimed he inflicted these blows had training, he knew what he was doing. Thats very serious for tom.
The character of the victim is impeccable.
If molly spiked him, or even if he took one himself is never going to change the fact that he was a sincerely nice bloke.
Its not an issue and he cannot be found guilty of a crime.
Its grasping at straws.
Lets investigate, shall we?

 

[kittythehare]

I don't think the proceedings from the custody hearing can be used against her in a criminal trial...she wouldn't have been properly read her rights...

Maybe not, but they will show her up as the habitual liar she really is.

 

[Logic-lady]

I completely agree with what you say...it's just that first degree murder theory that the Sherriffs office put together vs. the second degree murder theory that the DA is prosecuting...JMO but she's not pleading not guilty by reason of insanity where her medical records would most surely come in...if she was charged with first degree murder her manipulations might show premeditation...but she's been charged with second degree murder and her medical records might be irrelevant to her right to defend herself..plus that JC had trazodone in his system that was more than likely Molly's prescription takes the shine off a bit...regardless of the effect it may or may not have on him...it's illegal to take someone else's drugs... IMO (not going to be popular I know)... Holton will get his change of venue ... and, will keep everything out that doesn't pertain to that early morning argument that turned fatal...

Also, interested to understand how you think Holton will keep everything out that doesn't pertain to the argument that turned fatal?

 

[stmarysmead]

As far as the custody proceeding being inadmissible, that is a moot point. Because as the defense attacks Jason's character, his sister, brother-in-law, Mags Sister will all be called to testify. Not only the same individuals that testified at the custody hearings, but quite a few more. Mollys assertions of abuse can be refuted by NC friends who saw her humiliate Jason in public, perhaps by people who saw incidents on cruise ship vacations, and by family friends who observed her behavior.

The mini-water boarding of the little boy can come in as she argues that she is a gentle, stable individual. I imagine MM is somewhere today...and after reading the EX's expose, she is remembering many details of her life.

Oops.

 

[searchinGirl]

As far as the custody proceeding being inadmissible, that is a moot point. Because as the defense attacks Jason's character, his sister, brother-in-law, Mags Sister will all be called to testify. Not only the same individuals that testified at the custody hearings, but quite a few more. Mollys assertions of abuse can be refuted by NC friends who saw her humiliate Jason in public, perhaps by people who saw incidents on cruise ship vacations, and by family friends who observed her behavior.

The mini-water boarding of the little boy can come in as she argues that she is a gentle, stable individual. I imagine MM is somewhere today...and after reading the EX's expose, she is remembering many details of her life.

Oops.

do you know if the Corbett family has been notified that they will testify?...I think they would know by now....

 

[Logic-lady]

If I were the DA I would say this to the jury..."You have been told two very different stories in this trial: one by the Defense and the other...NOT BY ME...but by the autopsy and the examination of the un-bruised and un-broken bodies of Jason's killers.

Then I would use the analogy of coming home to find your pet beaten and battered to death with the "abuse excuse" but not a wound or bite or bruise on the killers to show. It's strange how people can hear of Jason's brains sticking to the walls and furniture...as I believe they will hear...and not comprehend the full force of the human brutality...but with a pet...

Speaking of the horror scene in the bedroom, I imagine the DA will ask...with blows of such force that the poor man's brains are sticking to the bureau and the walls...just how many times was it necessary to....umm...batter him to stop him? How will they justify continuing the heinous battering? How will they justify a second weapon.

Then he will remind them of other lies. And her troubled past.

Of course, these are just my opinions. Maybe others are not as horrified as I.

I don't understand how people can not be horrified by the post mortem, it is astounding in its brutality. It is going to be a tough trial for the Corbett's to sit through and for his children to read about in the future. However, I think it is clear, both from earlier posts here, and from social media, that there is a very real danger that some people still choose to believe what Molly is saying. Remember, she is a master manipulator, her father is trained at counter intelligence - these are lethal defendants!

Is it not better to hear out other opinions on how the defense might present their case? It may lead to something even more explosive....we were actually quite close with the Emory link earlier...if only we had thought of searching for different types of Emory institutions we may have stumbled across this earlier! We now know that Molly used a dating site...maybe this could lead to 'boyfriend with 8 year old daughter'? It's going to be a tough trial, why not try to cover all of the defense bases prior to entering that courtroom so we know (to the best of our abilities) that the prosecution case is rock solid? Just my suggestion, please don't feel this is an attack.

 

[kittythehare]

I don't understand how people can not be horrified by the post mortem, it is astounding in its brutality. It is going to be a tough trial for the Corbett's to sit through and for his children to read about in the future. However, I think it is clear, both from earlier posts here, and from social media, that there is a very real danger that some people still choose to believe what Molly is saying. Remember, she is a master manipulator, her father is trained at counter intelligence - these are lethal defendants!

Is it not better to hear out other opinions on how the defense might present their case? It may lead to something even more explosive....we were actually quite close with the Emory link earlier...if only we had thought of searching for different types of Emory institutions we may have stumbled across this earlier! We now know that Molly used a dating site...maybe this could lead to 'boyfriend with 8 year old daughter'? It's going to be a tough trial, why not try to cover all of the defense bases prior to entering that courtroom so we know (to the best of our abilities) that the prosecution case is rock solid? Just my suggestion, please don't feel this is an attack.

They are indeed lethal defendants.
Their lawyers lie frequently
I consider it a waste of energy to second guess them or even protest their silly lies and macabre public media events.
Its a superfluous exercise.
We are better off sleuthing.
We were not actually better off with the Emory link unless we were to go through every institution at emory,
She has claimed to be a attendee of Emory, these are her words.
It was in a sentence regarding education ref Yahoo posts. 2006.
So there can be no mistake, it was the university to which she oh so condescendingly referred.
Bottom line is that she lies.
We have made lists and lists of her lies ever before keith's book came into public domain as referring to molly.
he states she is a liar.
He described the manic phase of bi-polar disorder with so much accuracy, he could not have been imagining it or inventing it. It is classic textbook bi-polar.
Lets not chase clouds.. if we are working for the prosecution, lets focus on that. Those who are working for the defence should concentrate upon that.
Its simple

 

[Hotchips]

I don't understand how people can not be horrified by the post mortem, it is astounding in its brutality. It is going to be a tough trial for the Corbett's to sit through and for his children to read about in the future. However, I think it is clear, both from earlier posts here, and from social media, that there is a very real danger that some people still choose to believe what Molly is saying. Remember, she is a master manipulator, her father is trained at counter intelligence - these are lethal defendants!

Is it not better to hear out other opinions on how the defense might present their case? It may lead to something even more explosive....we were actually quite close with the Emory link earlier...if only we had thought of searching for different types of Emory institutions we may have stumbled across this earlier! We now know that Molly used a dating site...maybe this could lead to 'boyfriend with 8 year old daughter'? It's going to be a tough trial, why not try to cover all of the defense bases prior to entering that courtroom so we know (to the best of our abilities) that the prosecution case is rock solid? Just my suggestion, please don't feel this is an attack.

I agree, the defence tactics are an important area to explore. We unfortunately have to look past the autopsy report, and so will the jury, because that's the way the law works. If not, there would be no need for a trial, they would simply be sentenced end of. Justice would grind to a halt the world over if this were the case.

On another note. I have finished reading KMs book. I found that despite her troubles, he spoke very highly of her including describing her as a hard worker which he admired, and clearly loved her deeply and was very much effected by her decision to leave him. Very much different to the tone of the DM interview.

 

[searchinGirl]

Also, interested to understand how you think Holton will keep everything out that doesn't pertain to the argument that turned fatal?

well, I think he will try to but don't know for sure he will succeed...I believe the nature of second degree murder has no premeditation or deliberation to it...a hot-blooded situation with quick actions and reactions...that the Jury has to determine what actions were justified...I could be wrong but the focus will be on events leading up to the fight, the fight itself, and what happened after the fight...IMO

 

[kittythehare]

I agree, the defence tactics are an important area to explore. We unfortunately have to look past the autopsy report, and so will the jury, because that's the way the law works. If not, there would be no need for a trial, they would simply be sentenced end of. Justice would grind to a halt the world over if this were the case.

On another note. I have finished reading KMs book. I found that despite her troubles, he spoke very highly of her including describing her as a hard worker which he admired, and clearly loved her deeply and was very much effected by her decision to leave him. Very much different to the tone of the DM interview.

no, thats not how the law works.
Nobody will ever look beyond the autopsy report because it is the only evidence of worth.
You are right, he did love her.
But he knew she was a manipulative liar who would stop at nothing to get what she wanted.
Last night he had to block an Irish abuser from his facebook page who made points similar to yours.
Poor guy.
He had to make a public statement and in it he referred to some abusive mail he had received.
He was shocked.
All of us reading it were shocked too.

 

[stmarysmead]

I don't understand how people can not be horrified by the post mortem, it is astounding in its brutality. It is going to be a tough trial for the Corbett's to sit through and for his children to read about in the future. However, I think it is clear, both from earlier posts here, and from social media, that there is a very real danger that some people still choose to believe what Molly is saying. Remember, she is a master manipulator, her father is trained at counter intelligence - these are lethal defendants!

Is it not better to hear out other opinions on how the defense might present their case? It may lead to something even more explosive....we were actually quite close with the Emory link earlier...if only we had thought of searching for different types of Emory institutions we may have stumbled across this earlier! We now know that Molly used a dating site...maybe this could lead to 'boyfriend with 8 year old daughter'? It's going to be a tough trial, why not try to cover all of the defense bases prior to entering that courtroom so we know (to the best of our abilities) that the prosecution case is rock solid? Just my suggestion, please don't feel this is an attack.

I wouldn't be participating here if I did not find other opinions interesting.

Like Kitty, I'd like to also see if we can use our collective talents to sleuth additional information. I've seen amazing things happen on Boards like this!

But it is my opinion, that the narrative of the Defense is weak, especially in the context of the charges each defendant faces. They are so intensely dependent of the veracity of MM. Additionally, I followed another very high profile NC case very, very closely years ago. Those lawyers had innocent clients. They attached actual court documents to motions in order to turn public opinion toward the PROOF of innocence of their clients. Because their clients were INNOCENT and there was plenty available even before trial to prove it.

Just saying...my opinions only of course.

 

[stmarysmead]

Look beyond the autopsy? No. I disagree. Trials are not beauty contests...they are not about "feelings" and "love" and "niceness." A man had his brains beaten to a pulp. His tissue stuck to walls and furniture.

There is no provision in US law that even an "abused" wife can impose a death penalty when she and her co-killer are completely unscathed.

I also find the compassionate tone in KM's book makes it even more damning. There is no vengeance, no spurned lover, none of that in his book. That might mitigate the damage. But there is, instead, a great deal of sad testimony to her lies and chaotic personality. She is so damaged.

My opinion only.

 

[Hotchips]

no, thats not how the law works.
Nobody will ever look beyond the autopsy report because it is the only evidence of worth.
You are right, he did love her.
But he knew she was a manipulative liar who would stop at nothing to get what she wanted.
Last night he had to block an Irish abuser from his facebook page who made points similar to yours.
Poor guy.
He had to make a public statement and in it he referred to some abusive mail he had received.
He was shocked.
All of us reading it were shocked too.

Haven't seen his fb book, must go have a look now. Wasn't me btw leaving comments in case you think it was which I am inferring from your post directed at me. I'm not offended, I am not personally involved or known to any party in this case nor do I join in the fb arguments, they are completely unproductive and serve no purpose whatsoever. I am interested in what drives a person to commit such a violent heinous crime, the autopsy report while proves overkill , does not answer those questions for me.