GUILTY NC - Jason Corbett, 39, murdered in his Wallburg home, 2 Aug 2015 #3

[Logic-lady]

They are indeed lethal defendants.
Their lawyers lie frequently
I consider it a waste of energy to second guess them or even protest their silly lies and macabre public media events.
Its a superfluous exercise.
We are better off sleuthing.
We were not actually better off with the Emory link unless we were to go through every institution at emory,
She has claimed to be a attendee of Emory, these are her words.
It was in a sentence regarding education ref Yahoo posts. 2006.
So there can be no mistake, it was the university to which she oh so condescendingly referred.
Bottom line is that she lies.
We have made lists and lists of her lies ever before keith's book came into public domain as referring to molly.
he states she is a liar.
He described the manic phase of bi-polar disorder with so much accuracy, he could not have been imagining it or inventing it. It is classic textbook bi-polar.
Lets not chase clouds.. if we are working for the prosecution, lets focus on that. Those who are working for the defence should concentrate upon that.
Its simple

I agree.

My point about Emory was simply that, in general, when people lie it has echoes of truth, so on her yahoo account she embellishes her accomplishments by saying she attended both Clemson AND Emory...technically she kind of did - if we look at her other 'lies' what will we find?

 

[kittythehare]

Haven't seen his fb book, must go have a look now. Wasn't me btw leaving comments in case you think it was which I am inferring from your post directed at me. I'm not offended, I am not personally involved or known to any party in this case nor do I join in the fb arguments, they are completely unproductive and serve no purpose whatsoever. I am interested in what drives a person to commit such a violent heinous crime, the autopsy report while proves overkill , does not answer those questions for me.

These weren't arguments, it was an attack by a virtual stranger to him.

 

[kittythehare]

I agree.

My point about Emory was simply that, in general, when people lie it has echoes of truth, so on her yahoo account she embellishes her accomplishments by saying she attended both Clemson AND Emory...technically she kind of did - if we look at her other 'lies' what will we find?

We really need a file just for lies, I think.
a mollyliar file
a mikw earnest liar file and the lawyers lies file.
It will save us backtracking.
we could leave them in documents with links and proof attached,
If she is a liar her testimony will be worth nothing.

 

[searchinGirl]

I agree, the defence tactics are an important area to explore. We unfortunately have to look past the autopsy report, and so will the jury, because that's the way the law works. If not, there would be no need for a trial, they would simply be sentenced end of. Justice would grind to a halt the world over if this were the case.

On another note. I have finished reading KMs book. I found that despite her troubles, he spoke very highly of her including describing her as a hard worker which he admired, and clearly loved her deeply and was very much effected by her decision to leave him. Very much different to the tone of the DM interview.

I think in looking beyond the autopsy report it won't be discounted, but the scenario in which the crime occurred will be important for the jury to hear...and contrary to discounting it, I think Holton will pick it apart...starting first with the trazodone and then the alcohol...the fact that Jason was twice Molly's size...hasn't he accused the Sheriff's dept of making a case rather than investigating a crime?...the article this weekend doesn't harm Molly as much as it harms her chances of getting a fair trial and will solidify a change of venue...IMO...IDK, if I've learned anything from my sister (who Molly reminds me of) it's that some people get away with everything..
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[stmarysmead]

I wonder if we could pin a thread that is just cataloging lies we uncover. Mods, is that possible?

 

[kittythehare]

I think in looking beyond the autopsy report it won't be discounted, but the scenario in which the crime occurred will be important for the jury to hear...and contrary to discounting it, I think Holton will pick it apart...starting first with the trazodone and then the alcohol...the fact that Jason was twice Molly's size...hasn't he accused the Sheriff's dept of making a case rather than investigating a crime?...the article this weekend doesn't harm Molly as much as it harms her chances of getting a fair trial and will solidify a change of venue...IMO...IDK, if I've learned anything from my sister (who Molly reminds me of) it's that some people get away with everything..
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The trazadone and the single beer will never turn into a psychotic rage recipe, even had jason received a liver transplant immediately following his death and placed upon a ventilator. so that one is shot entirely.
It cannot run, it is incoherent nonsense and i have shown peer reviewed and cited documents to this effect here in these threads in the past. Thread 1.
Thats irrefutable evidence.
Re it harming her chance of a clean jury pool, the only people that are inciting this are her own lawyers with their low grade insulting cheap media grabs..

 

[stmarysmead]

Here's their "scenario" problem. The "scenario has to explain the overkill in the context of no injuries to either of them.

i think that's a real, real long stretch for self-defense.

 

[Logic-lady]

well, I think he will try to but don't know for sure he will succeed...I believe the nature of second degree murder has no premeditation or deliberation to it...a hot-blooded situation with quick actions and reactions...that the Jury has to determine what actions were justified...I could be wrong but the focus will be on events leading up to the fight, the fight itself, and what happened after the fight...IMO

I agree with you, which is why I believe the information regarding Molly's credibility will be vital to the prosecution. As I've said earlier, the ONLY hope that both Molly and Tom have of no jail time is by sticking to that self defense strategy...any other plea or theory would mean incarceration of some kind for one or both of them. So they have to put up the biggest fight they have for that defense, which is mainly to cast so much doubt and aspersion on Jason's character that some of the jurors buy it and acquit. 1st degree murder is incredibly difficult to prove, I think the DA has been savvy in choosing a 2nd degree charge. That takes the focus away from the DV/self defense theory, which is the main defense tactic, and in fact away from Jason (who is no longer here to defend himself) and the argument of that night also.

If the prosecution can prove that Molly is not a credible person, that she has mental health issues which they can prove she has lied about in the past, and any other evidence to her character that belies the story she has put forward as truth, then it gives the jurors the opportunity to see that while it may come down to a single argument on a single night, the only person left to testify as to the 'facts' of what happened that night, is the only person who has been proven to be a liar time and again. Probably not enough for a Murder 1 conviction, but I suspect enough to convince the jurors that Murder 2 is justified.

 

[Hotchips]

I think in looking beyond the autopsy report it won't be discounted, but the scenario in which the crime occurred will be important for the jury to hear...and contrary to discounting it, I think Holton will pick it apart...starting first with the trazodone and then the alcohol...the fact that Jason was twice Molly's size...hasn't he accused the Sheriff's dept of making a case rather than investigating a crime?...the article this weekend doesn't harm Molly as much as it harms her chances of getting a fair trial and will solidify a change of venue...IMO...IDK, if I've learned anything from my sister (who Molly reminds me of) it's that some people get away with everything..
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Thank you, you have made my post clearer. I never intended my post to be read as people discounting completely or overlooking the autopsy report. It is what it is, proves overkill, but that is not case closed. The other side must be examined too and the jury will want to see both the autopsy and hear the background. You are right, the defence will attempt to pick apart the prosecution case, they have started turning the wheels already here with critisizing the investigation and making reference to the drugs and alcohol in jasons system. All they have to do is create doubt.....doubt as to whether the investigation has been conducted fairly and properly by both the police and DAs office, and doubt as to Jason's character and that of his family to name a couple . On the upside, that is good for the prosecution, they now have an indication of how the defence are proceeding and her lawyers response to the DM article cements that. Following the article in the DM, I feel if KM is to be a prosecution witness, the defence can cross examine him and could well turn it around very much in MMs favour.

 

[anniejay]

I don't understand how people can not be horrified by the post mortem, it is astounding in its brutality. It is going to be a tough trial for the Corbett's to sit through and for his children to read about in the future. However, I think it is clear, both from earlier posts here, and from social media, that there is a very real danger that some people still choose to believe what Molly is saying. Remember, she is a master manipulator, her father is trained at counter intelligence - these are lethal defendants!

Is it not better to hear out other opinions on how the defense might present their case? It may lead to something even more explosive....we were actually quite close with the Emory link earlier...if only we had thought of searching for different types of Emory institutions we may have stumbled across this earlier! We now know that Molly used a dating site...maybe this could lead to 'boyfriend with 8 year old daughter'? It's going to be a tough trial, why not try to cover all of the defense bases prior to entering that courtroom so we know (to the best of our abilities) that the prosecution case is rock solid? Just my suggestion, please don't feel this is an attack.

I think there is a lot more that will come to light about MM's past than what just came out this weekend, I think there was someone before KM that had what she referred to as her step-daughter on yahoo. I'm sure that the prosecution is probably already in the know of all of this. I don't think MM's 4-day stay in the Emory pysch unit is what she has referred to in the past, she clearly implied she attended both Clemson and Emory Universities as a student.

There is a reference in KM's book (I read it on kindle last night) about MM's having developed some uterine problem: "Mary eventually developed a painful uterine disease that doctors attributed to years of putting so many powerful narcotics in her body. They believed the disease would bother her the rest of her life." I think this sheds some light on the emotional state she must have felt and the trouble with carrying a baby, imo, this on top of depression or bipolar could not be easy. I think she took off for Ireland to escape and start over as previously mentioned, and I'll say again as I did a few months ago in an earlier post, and has been said by others, that it's my opinion that she targeted him. She could've been a nanny for any family, possibly, but a young dad who lost his wife and has two babies essentially? In my opinion, she went there to be a mom, probably heartbroken still after her miscarriage. All of this will be used by the prosecution to paint a picture of who MM is, but they still need to be able to prove that she had the ability to become unhinged and violent. Yes the autopsy is the key but with a jury you never know what type of bleeding hearts are going to be on the panel.

Just one other thing I was thinking about b/c it came up in an earlier thread, I've calculated that when MM arrived in IRL, the children would have been 3yrs,4 months old, and 19 months old respectively. I came to this conclusion as it was stated in articles that the children were 2 yrs old, and 3 months old when their mom passed away, and MM arrived in IRL in March 2008. As far as her saying they called her Mom for 8-years, imo that's a lie.

 

[stephanddoody]

I wouldn't be participating here if I did not find other opinions interesting.

Like Kitty, I'd like to also see if we can use our collective talents to sleuth additional information. I've seen amazing things happen on Boards like this!

But it is my opinion, that the narrative of the Defense is weak, especially in the context of the charges each defendant faces. They are so intensely dependent of the veracity of MM. Additionally, I followed another very high profile NC case very, very closely years ago. Those lawyers had innocent clients. They attached actual court documents to motions in order to turn public opinion toward the PROOF of innocence of their clients. Because their clients were INNOCENT and there was plenty available even before trial to prove it.

Just saying...my opinions only of course.

Exactly . If there is actual evidence or even a statement of any kind from an unbiased source I would be happy if it was shared . To date I have seen nothing to prove anything that Molly has said . We know now that she lied during the court proceedings which was the most important piece of evidence contained in the interview of the daily mail. This doesn't surprise me in the slightest from Keith's book she didn't want people to know about her illness . I don't think she would have revealed any of this to her "friends" in NC. She couldn't come out and say the whole truth as so much more she never told people was being revealed example the children weren't hers in peticular she didn't give birth to Sarah . There is an image to keep and of course no judge would grant custody to a unstable bi polar woman that is accused of murdering or at least being part of the murder of her husband . Throughout all the threads ye have always stated it will come down to what happened in the night of August 2nd . The murder took place on August 2nd . The autopsy is the result of what happened on August 2nd . The findings of the Me and Le are a result of what happened . We are arguing over and back and actually not working together at all and we are accomplishing nothing because of it . We know only one year extra . We now know from a person that wrote a book about his relationship with Molly that Molly lied then and that she lied at the custody hearing however trashy we think the Daily Mail (I don't ) they found this info and whether it's to sell papers or not if it does benefit Jasons case and definitely backs up Tracey's claims of bi polar. A supporter of Mollys put a post up on his page which I will attach . The comments were rather nasty and the ps was information that could have only come from Molly herself which proves to me her manipulation skills she's still pulling strings . What she said was to done to humiliate him discredit him for speaking out against her . Vengeful spiteful and cruel. Reminded me of the fat shaming incident and the statements her friends made about Jason killing his first wife that information must have come from somewhere . She's like a master puppeteer . So what do we know so far Keith and Molly date for a year in which time she has bi polar on up to 26 tablets a day she admitted to pysc ward in January/February 2008 and arrives in Ireland March 2008 we know her parents visited twice and have seen pictures of the children at a young age so she did go back to the USA and I assume before the relationship started that she would have got some holidays she would be entitled to paid leave of up to 28 under Irish law . She doesn't seem to have friends in Ireland so I would assume she returned home, again this is speculation on my part but if it was the case she would have opportunity to get her meds then maybe the parents brought her meds when they visited , they all leave in 2011 to move to NC in 2013 she consults a divorce lawyer . It may be useful to try find out when she joined the woman's group for DV if this was after consulting the lawyer as we have found that a step parent will get custody of the are a victim of DV and if they are the sole care giver which she certainly portrays on her Facebook page My own opinion of course

 

[searchinGirl]

The trazadone and the single beer will never turn into a psychotic rage recipe, even had jason received a liver transplant immediately following his death and placed upon a ventilator. so that one is shot entirely.
It cannot run, it is incoherent nonsense and i have shown peer reviewed and cited documents to this effect here in these threads in the past. Thread 1.
Thats irrefutable evidence.
Re it harming her chance of a clean jury pool, the only people that are inciting this are her own lawyers with their low grade insulting cheap media grabs..

I think there is another argument that Holton could use regarding the trazodone... and it would support marital rape..I believe I mentioned before I have a RX for it and I scanned the first two pages of the paperwork that comes with it here.....View attachment trazodone.pdf...3rd paragraph from the bottom priapism... that is the same warning used in drugs for erectile dysfunction...used in a small dose this is a possibility...the paragraph before that talks about serotonin syndrome/toxicity ...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serotonin_syndrome ...it is actually considered being poisoned but didn't you say there wasn't much in his system?...

 

[stmarysmead]

I will tell you one reason I have such confidence in the Prosecution case: it's hard to defend clients who tell stupid lies. Scott Peterson was that type of defendant. Molly is another.

It is one thing to lie about things that can be shaded or have various interpretations. But defendants that lie about their education when it's a matter of record; that lie about break-ins when the police must, by law, leave notification; that lie about medications when pharmacies records can be accessed; that lie about pysch ward hospitalization when a book about one's history is on Amazon.com. I could go on.

MM is a client in dire need of credibility who unfortunately for her attorneys has already stained their defense with sloppy, stupid lies. Or so I see it.

 

[stmarysmead]

I think there is another argument that Holton could use regarding the trazodone... and it would support marital rape..I believe I mentioned before I have a RX for it and I scanned the first two pages of the paperwork that comes with it here.....View attachment 92528...3rd paragraph from the bottom priapism... that is the same warning used in drugs for erectile dysfunction...used in a small dose this is a possibility...the paragraph before that talks about serotonin syndrome/toxicity ...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serotonin_syndrome ...it is actually considered being poisoned but didn't you say there wasn't much in his system?...

I'm sure you know that Holton can say this but the Prosecution can readily shoot it down. And the Defense can only ever be as credible as the jury finds their client.

 

[Hotchips]

I have searched some time ago for any info on her involvement with the family service group, went through numerous photo albums of volunteers at evebts and mertings they had and various fb pages linked to events this group ran however she only features in one photo which is the group photo which was displayed as their cover photo. She never commented or is tagged or referenced on the fb page nor on their website. She did "like" the odd post but thats it. Did she just volunteer at one event for them or was it a regular thing i wonder? Perhaps someone else may have more luck here!

 

[kittythehare]

I think there is another argument that Holton could use regarding the trazodone... and it would support marital rape..I believe I mentioned before I have a RX for it and I scanned the first two pages of the paperwork that comes with it here.....

...3rd paragraph from the bottom priapism... that is the same warning used in drugs for erectile dysfunction...used in a small dose this is a possibility...the paragraph before that talks about serotonin syndrome/toxicity ...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serotonin_syndrome ...it is actually considered being poisoned but didn't you say there wasn't much in his system?...

Yeah, minimal .. 0.05mgm/l as far as I remember.
But rape is a crime of violence, its not usually asociated with erectile dysfunction, quite the opposite, in fact.
I think there are more popular and widely available drugs for this 'problem' which are not contra indicated in patients with cardiac problems. Jason had known cardiac defects. Minimal but sufficient to disqualify him from receiving such a drug as trazadone.
Jason is the VICTIM here.
He died a horrible prolonged death, he suffered terribly.
It was a horrific bloodbath.
its possible Molly spiked him in the hope of entrapping him, is that not a much more likely scenario?

 

[Logic-lady]

I think there is another argument that Holton could use regarding the trazodone... and it would support marital rape..I believe I mentioned before I have a RX for it and I scanned the first two pages of the paperwork that comes with it here.....

...3rd paragraph from the bottom priapism... that is the same warning used in drugs for erectile dysfunction...used in a small dose this is a possibility...the paragraph before that talks about serotonin syndrome/toxicity ...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serotonin_syndrome ...it is actually considered being poisoned but didn't you say there wasn't much in his system?...

Thanks it's interesting info....I am struggling to see how this could be used to support a marital rape defense though for two reasons - 1. If marital rape did occur in the relationship, then I fail to see why Jason would have needed 'help' in the form of medication? He already has two healthy children conceived naturally so no indication of erectile disfunction, and presumably he would have seen it as his right if he was inclined enough to force the matter so therefore no psychological deterrent. 2. The info refers to priapism...from what I understand this is an incredibly painful erection, often having to be medically deflated, certainly not something one would assume someone would try to use for intercourse with someone who wasn't even willing in the first place.

 

[searchinGirl]

Thanks it's interesting info....I am struggling to see how this could be used to support a marital rape defense though for two reasons - 1. If marital rape did occur in the relationship, then I fail to see why Jason would have needed 'help' in the form of medication? He already has two healthy children conceived naturally so no indication of erectile disfunction, and presumably he would have seen it as his right if he was inclined enough to force the matter so therefore no psychological deterrent. 2. The info refers to priapism...from what I understand this is an incredibly painful erection, often having to be medically deflated, certainly not something one would assume someone would try to use for intercourse with someone who wasn't even willing in the first place.

he probably took it to sleep...that's what I use it for...but guys use it as an enhancer and I guess he didn't have a script for it so why it was in his system will have to be explained...IMO

 

[kittythehare]

This post by her friend on the Ex's page certainly shows that Molly supplied this friend with the information to make this attack. Looks like the reports of MM humilating Jason in public tie in very well because she certainly is using humiliation as a weapon here. Mollys "other" persona peeked out. My opinion only.

Thats a gamechanger for sure.
Game is up now.
So much for the grieving step-mother or the sorrowful victim.
this is malice and malice is what informed this entire murder and its aftermath.
This is what they do.
They made Jason a guilty party, they implied he was an abuser and that they personally knew that and they went on to say thet the guardians were unfit parents by virtue of claiming to teach the little children to hate the woman that murdered their father.
There followed a vile character assassination of keith from someone with intimate knowledge.
This is a delivery.
this is GOLD to the prosecution.
Game over.
Job done.

 

[searchinGirl]

Yeah, minimal .. 0.05mgm/l as far as I remember.
But rape is a crime of violence, its not usually asociated with erectile dysfunction, quite the opposite, in fact.
I think there are more popular and widely available drugs for this 'problem' which are not contra indicated in patients with cardiac problems. Jason had known cardiac defects. Minimal but sufficient to disqualify him from receiving such a drug as trazadone.
Jason is the VICTIM here.
He died a horrible prolonged death, he suffered terribly.
It was a horrific bloodbath.
its possible Molly spiked him in the hope of entrapping him, is that not a much more likely scenario?

those drugs you refer to that take care of the problem here in the states cost about $15/pill and most insurance doesn't cover it...poor man's viagara...