GUILTY NC - Jason Corbett, 39, murdered in his Wallburg home, 2 Aug 2015 #3

[Frizby]

I agree Frisby it may or may not have relevance when trial starts. What i do see in her testimony is a self diagnosis and an almost slip up when answering about the Lithium. What we do know is that she didnt get a cure on the flight to Ireland and she also didnt tell her future husbsnd Jason thst her meds for depression had interacted and made her unstable for a time. Instead we have a co worker of Jasons who has stated thst before Jason left for NC with mm in 2011 he had spoken to him about mm having BIPOLAR. Mm had obviously recently disclosed this to Jason and he had concerns.This would suggest that mm had admitted to Jason only 4years before his murder that she still had bipolar. Not to mention that at a later date Jason's sister has testified that mm has also told her.
http://m.independent.ie/irish-news

I'm wondering if the prosecution go down the road of mm having had an episode on Aug 2 due to her continued unstable BIPOLAR. Perhaps Jason called her parents down to help as he may well have done before. Is this why they rushed and changed plans?? Did a conversation take place that night where Jason might have broke the news he couldn't take anymore and didn't want the kids to be near her while she was this erratic. They had seen this before. They were after all her enablers. Did they try calm her down and thinking they succeeded, went to bed. Was she furious Jason called them and waited for him to sleep before she attacked him in rage. We have Keith maginn telling us when she was unstable she satayed up all night and was furious with him if they had an arguement and he went to sleep.If we listen to the 911 call she is the only person in the room that sounds like she is coming down off something exhaustion perhaps from her all day manic episode and rage killing.
And as for the drug in Jason's system mentioned in other comments as being a poor man's viagra. Mm was desperate for kids that's very obvious. What lengths was she going to to have one ?? Maybe Jason was taking this drug without ever knowing he was being spiked. Maybe that was the only way she could try to gain his interest. All just my thoughts.

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You are spot on in saying that her being cured on a flight to Ireland seems impossible. Wondering if she decided not to take the medication. Seems unbelievable that when she left the hospital a few weeks previously that she was not give another prescription for maybe other type of medication. I think it is unlikely that she did not have medication. This new mediation might not have dealt will her illness and the extent of it manifested later on. For both Jason to mention it and his family is quite telling, they did not just make this up, she must have discussed this with JC or at least partly discussed it. Will be interesting as to how the prosecution is going to portray the drug in JC system but the level is so small but then again I am by no means an expert on any of these drugs. And you are right, she did seem to slip up in the custody hearing when being questioned about Lithium.

 

[tlcya]

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[searchinGirl]

I see this differently. It's an advantage to the Prosecution, not handcuffs. They will lay out all the evidence, but in essence tell the jury, we are not going to try to burden you with whether there was premeditation....we are making it easy for you. They even gave them a lesser charge. Much easier to get them convicted and sent away.

My point is that I don't believe the DA can charge her with a certain crime but then in court present evidence of a different crime...there is some special legal meaning to the combo charges MM and TM are facing...if I understand it right it means that if the jury convicts on 2nd degree and they find mitigating factors they will actually be convicted and sentenced for manslaughter...

 

[stmarysmead]

It could be that Molly had a cocktail of medicines from Emory that seemed to stabilize her when she arrived in Ireland. My oldest daughter is a medical doctor (though not a psychiatrist) and it's getting the doses and combinations of medications balanced...that is often the greatest challenge.

I don't know how saavy Jason, as a businessman , was about the specifics of any certain medication. I could tell my husband, also a businessman, that I was taking some obscure (to him) medication in order to make my eyelashes more beautiful and he'd believe me. I agree it was only before the wedding that MM came clean. Suddenly, many behaviors that JC thought would be cured by taking her home to the US...now become clear are of a more serious nature.

But the reason people with chronic conditions are monitored is because those medications can stop working together so well..as changes in body chemistry or toleration cause them to be less effective. That's my guess what happened here. Or maybe she blamed the drugs for her miscarriages.

I think the theory that Jason called her parents back is very interesting. In my opinion, I continue to believe that TM is only an accessory AFTER the fact. They have covered for her at the expense of others for years ...even disregarding the safety of these orphaned children...TM is just doing more of the same.

My opinions only.

 

[stmarysmead]

My point is that I don't believe the DA can charge her with a certain crime but then in court present evidence of a different crime...there is some special legal meaning to the combo charges MM and TM are facing...if I understand it right it means that if the jury convicts on 2nd degree and they find mitigating factors they will actually be convicted and sentenced for manslaughter...

They arent charging her with a different crime. They have just made it easier to convict by removing the necessity to prove premeditation. And, no, if the jury convicts on second degree murder...that's it. Done. That's the charge they convicted on.

Perhaps if you read some other cases on this Board where trial has been completed, you will have a better understanding.

 

[searchinGirl]

They arent charging her with a different crime. They have just made it easier to convict by removing the necessity to prove premeditation. And, no, if the jury convicts on second degree murder...that's it. Done. That's the charge they convicted on.

Perhaps if you read some other cases on this Board where trial has been completed, you will have a better understanding.

I'm pretty sure first degree murder and second degree murder are different crimes....ill look for the link about the combo charges so that you might understand...

 

[stmarysmead]

I'm pretty sure first degree murder and second degree murder are different crimes....ill look for the link about the combo charges so that you might understand...

Yes, of course, they are different crimes. They carry different penalties. The DA cannot ask for a penalty that is only available on the First Degree Charge. The jury has two other charges to consider for conviction. Much easier to prove than 1st degree. I understand you to say that ...somehow...that means the Prosecution will have to omit some evidence...that they are hampered in some way. That the Defense can jump up and say...no, you can't say that...she isn't THAT bad!

The evidence is what it is. The avoidance of Ist degree could be mitigated by MM's pyschiatric history.

But I am saying...no, the Prosecution job is actually easier and they can present whatever evidence they have.

I think perhaps we have run out of steam discussing this. We will see what happens at trial.

 

[Logic-lady]

I'm pretty sure first degree murder and second degree murder are different crimes....ill look for the link about the combo charges so that you might understand...

I think what stmarysmead is trying to point out is that the warrants suggested that detectives were chasing a first degree murder charge, they investigated the crime on that basis. On reviewing the facts and the evidence before him, the DA decided to press ahead with a second degree murder charge. That doesn't change the crime, or even the evidence required to prosecute, it simply lowers the burden of proof that the DA has to use to convince the jury that she is guilty.

I have posted before regarding the differences between the charges, but here is a succinct interpretation of what they will be required to prove to achieve a 2nd degree murder conviction - http://criminal.findlaw.com/criminal-charges/second-degree-murder-overview.html

Please see this content in particular, it may clarify what you are asking...

[h=3]Impulsive Killings with Malice Aforethought[/h]These sorts of killings occur in the heat of the moment, and don't involve any premeditation on the part of the killer. At the moment the murder occurs, the killer definitely intends to kill the victim, but up to that moment, the killer had no intent or plan to commit murder.
For example, Adam and Bill are neighbors, and lately they've been having disagreements over the fence between their properties. Adam pays Bill a visit to discuss the matter, but gets angry in the process, pulls out a gun and shoots and kills Bill.
Adam didn't have any plan to kill Bill when he went to Bill's house that day, so there was no premeditation. At the time of the murder, however, Adam fully intended to kill Bill because of his anger over the fence, so there was malice aforethought. Most states that distinguish between degrees of murder would consider that a second degree murder.
- See more at: http://criminal.findlaw.com/criminal-charges/second-degree-murder-overview.html#sthash.vZf06lBb.dpuf

 

[emmalpage81]

I'm pretty sure first degree murder and second degree murder are different crimes....ill look for the link about the combo charges so that you might understand...

I may be incorrect by my understanding was that the difference between first degree and second degree was the degree of intent. For first degree murder it is a premeditated intentional killing. Second degree is an unplanned intentional killing or when a perpetrator shows a reckless disregard for human life.

I think that when they charge for second degree (unplanned but intentional killing or recklessly killing) they also charge with voluntary manslaughter which is causing death without intention.

So the way I understand it is second degree murder = intent to kill BUT not premeditated
voluntary manslaughter = no intent to kill.

The evidence accumulated can be used for first degree, second degree and voluntary manslaughter unless it is specific to a charge which has been omitted. The only reason I can think of any evidence being dropped in this case would be if it related solely to the issue of premeditation.

I could be completely wrong on this and it is all my own understanding and opinion.

 

[stephanddoody]

I think what stmarysmead is trying to point out is that the warrants suggested that detectives were chasing a first degree murder charge, they investigated the crime on that basis. On reviewing the facts and the evidence before him, the DA decided to press ahead with a second degree murder charge. That doesn't change the crime, or even the evidence required to prosecute, it simply lowers the burden of proof that the DA has to use to convince the jury that she is guilty.

I have posted before regarding the differences between the charges, but here is a succinct interpretation of what they will be required to prove to achieve a 2nd degree murder conviction - http://criminal.findlaw.com/criminal-charges/second-degree-murder-overview.html

Please see this content in particular, it may clarify what you are asking...

Impulsive Killings with Malice Aforethought

These sorts of killings occur in the heat of the moment, and don't involve any premeditation on the part of the killer. At the moment the murder occurs, the killer definitely intends to kill the victim, but up to that moment, the killer had no intent or plan to commit murder.
For example, Adam and Bill are neighbors, and lately they've been having disagreements over the fence between their properties. Adam pays Bill a visit to discuss the matter, but gets angry in the process, pulls out a gun and shoots and kills Bill.
Adam didn't have any plan to kill Bill when he went to Bill's house that day, so there was no premeditation. At the time of the murder, however, Adam fully intended to kill Bill because of his anger over the fence, so there was malice aforethought. Most states that distinguish between degrees of murder would consider that a second degree murder.
- See more at: http://criminal.findlaw.com/criminal-charges/second-degree-murder-overview.html#sthash.vZf06lBb.dpuf

Fantastic post and yes you are right this was discussed before but you have made it a lot clearer. Thanks

 

[stmarysmead]

I think what stmarysmead is trying to point out is that the warrants suggested that detectives were chasing a first degree murder charge, they investigated the crime on that basis. On reviewing the facts and the evidence before him, the DA decided to press ahead with a second degree murder charge. That doesn't change the crime, or even the evidence required to prosecute, it simply lowers the burden of proof that the DA has to use to convince the jury that she is guilty.

I have posted before regarding the differences between the charges, but here is a succinct interpretation of what they will be required to prove to achieve a 2nd degree murder conviction - http://criminal.findlaw.com/criminal-charges/second-degree-murder-overview.html

Please see this content in particular, it may clarify what you are asking...

[h=3]Impulsive Killings with Malice Aforethought[/h]These sorts of killings occur in the heat of the moment, and don't involve any premeditation on the part of the killer. At the moment the murder occurs, the killer definitely intends to kill the victim, but up to that moment, the killer had no intent or plan to commit murder.
For example, Adam and Bill are neighbors, and lately they've been having disagreements over the fence between their properties. Adam pays Bill a visit to discuss the matter, but gets angry in the process, pulls out a gun and shoots and kills Bill.
Adam didn't have any plan to kill Bill when he went to Bill's house that day, so there was no premeditation. At the time of the murder, however, Adam fully intended to kill Bill because of his anger over the fence, so there was malice aforethought. Most states that distinguish between degrees of murder would consider that a second degree murder.
- See more at: http://criminal.findlaw.com/criminal-charges/second-degree-murder-overview.html#sthash.vZf06lBb.dpuf

Perfect! And a big Thank You from me!

 

[kittythehare]

You are spot on in saying that her being cured on a flight to Ireland seems impossible. Wondering if she decided not to take the medication. Seems unbelievable that when she left the hospital a few weeks previously that she was not give another prescription for maybe other type of medication. I think it is unlikely that she did not have medication. This new mediation might not have dealt will her illness and the extent of it manifested later on. For both Jason to mention it and his family is quite telling, they did not just make this up, she must have discussed this with JC or at least partly discussed it. Will be interesting as to how the prosecution is going to portray the drug in JC system but the level is so small but then again I am by no means an expert on any of these drugs. And you are right, she did seem to slip up in the custody hearing when being questioned about Lithium.

true, the blood drug quantity was miniscule, too miniscule to be effective in any way whatsoever.
However it is possible that there were other drugs administered to Jason which were not tested for at all and would account for an apparent 'drowsiness' that made him ineffective in his own self defence.
But nights without sleep and the ravings of a lunatic 24/7 could also account for his exhaustion.
I would be interested in the police findings on her personal computer.. did she research non detectable drugs at any point? Did she research effects of combo drugs on a man with heart disease?
Theres so much we do not yet know.
The Trazadone is a non runner as a factor that contributed to his alleged 'brutal' attack on molly.
Interesting point re Sharon possibly having the same illness, think LogicLady made that?
It occurred to me too.
She who must be protected..
First question will be
'why did you not commence CPR prior to calling 911 when both of you are trained in recuss.?'
Other will be precise time of death, or as near as possible. This will be ascertained from a combination of details including the preliminary examination by paramedics, police examination of body for temperature
stomach contents which will show the time the victim last injested food before his death- remember the masticated greens- autopsy,
not digested greens, they were merely masticated which may indicate he ate something almost immediately before his death.
The force and sequence of the blows, the blow that is most likely to have been the fatal blow, and the sequence of blows that followed the fatal blow..
the intervals between blows will also be quantifiable- heinous atrocious and cruel suggests he was alive for much of the beatings and help was witheld.
Vicious beating.
Tom will be asked what time he heard the 'disturbance'.
He will be asked why he chose to arm himself prior to going to the bedroom and the journey he took in order to collect his weapons.
What exactly was Sharon doing during the 'event'?
What indeed!

 

[searchinGirl]

Yes, of course, they are different crimes. They carry different penalties. The DA cannot ask for a penalty that is only available on the First Degree Charge. The jury has two other charges to consider for conviction. Much easier to prove than 1st degree. I understand you to say that ...somehow...that means the Prosecution will have to omit some evidence...that they are hampered in some way. That the Defense can jump up and say...no, you can't say that...she isn't THAT bad!

The evidence is what it is. The avoidance of Ist degree could be mitigated by MM's pyschiatric history.

But I am saying...no, the Prosecution job is actually easier and they can present whatever evidence they have.

I think perhaps we have run out of steam discussing this. We will see what happens at trial.

the combo of charges allows for imperfect self defense... "for a killing to be justified as self-defense, the defendant must reasonably believe that force is necessary for self-protection against an immediate threat of harm, and lethal force is an appropriate response to the threat. But what if the defendant sincerely believes that lethal force is necessary, but the belief is unreasonable?

In some states, a murder charge can be reduced to voluntary manslaughter based on “imperfect self-defense” where the defendant actually believes that force is necessary and that lethal force is appropriate, but at least one of these beliefs is unreasonable."... http://criminal.lawyers.com/criminal-law-basics/manslaughter-a-lesser-crime-than-murder.html

I know we discussed it here before because that's how I learned about it... I don't believe the prosecution has any grounds posturing anything but a theory of second degree murder...all evidence presented will pertain to that and the defense can rebut...I also believe the defense can present an alternate theory of the crime under certain conditions but the prosecution can't...IMO

 

[searchinGirl]

true, the blood drug quantity was miniscule, too miniscule to be effective in any way whatsoever.
However it is possible that there were other drugs administered to Jason which were not tested for at all and would account for an apparent 'drowsiness' that made him ineffective in his own self defence.
But nights without sleep and the ravings of a lunatic 24/7 could also account for his exhaustion.
I would be interested in the police findings on her personal computer.. did she research non detectable drugs at any point? Did she research effects of combo drugs on a man with heart disease?
Theres so much we do not yet know.
The Trazadone is a non runner as a factor that contributed to his alleged 'brutal' attack on molly.
Interesting point re Sharon possibly having the same illness, think LogicLady made that?
It occurred to me too.
She who must be protected..
First question will be
'why did you not commence CPR prior to calling 911 when both of you are trained in recuss.?'
Other will be precise time of death, or as near as possible. This will be ascertained from a combination of details including the preliminary examination by paramedics, police examination of body for temperature
stomach contents which will show the time the victim last injested food before his death- remember the masticated greens- autopsy,
not digested greens, they were merely masticated which may indicate he ate something almost immediately before his death.
The force and sequence of the blows, the blow that is most likely to have been the fatal blow, and the sequence of blows that followed the fatal blow..
the intervals between blows will also be quantifiable- heinous atrocious and cruel suggests he was alive for much of the beatings and help was witheld.
Vicious beating.
Tom will be asked what time he heard the 'disturbance'.
He will be asked why he chose to arm himself prior to going to the bedroom and the journey he took in order to collect his weapons.
What exactly was Sharon doing during the 'event'?
What indeed!

a sticker on my script for trazodone says to take it with food and that alcohol may intensify it's effect of dizziness...

 

[Logic-lady]

the combo of charges allows for imperfect self defense... "for a killing to be justified as self-defense, the defendant must reasonably believe that force is necessary for self-protection against an immediate threat of harm, and lethal force is an appropriate response to the threat. But what if the defendant sincerely believes that lethal force is necessary, but the belief is unreasonable?

In some states, a murder charge can be reduced to voluntary manslaughter based on “imperfect self-defense” where the defendant actually believes that force is necessary and that lethal force is appropriate, but at least one of these beliefs is unreasonable."... http://criminal.lawyers.com/criminal-law-basics/manslaughter-a-lesser-crime-than-murder.html

I know we discussed it here before because that's how I learned about it... I don't believe the prosecution has any grounds posturing anything but a theory of second degree murder...all evidence presented will pertain to that and the defense can rebut...I also believe the defense can present an alternate theory of the crime under certain conditions but the prosecution can't...IMO

Ah ok, I see where you are going. You are correct, the defense will do anything in their power to ensure the jury convict on the lesser charge of voluntary manslaughter, but I presume this is why the DA charged with both crimes, to give the jury an out should they fail to reach a unanimous verdict on the Murder 2. However, I do believe the prosecution has ample evidence to achieve the Murder 2 conviction, this is why Keith Maginn's testimony is crucial, because uncontrollable rage is not the same as imperfect self defense, and it highlights Molly's propensity for rage prior to this one event.

The defense really only has one option, ensure that people believe the version of Jason that they are putting out into the public realm. However, there does not seem to be a single shred of evidence released thus far by either side (apart from the statements of self defense by MM & TM) to back this up. Not one single thing has come out...they were living in the States for 4 years, away from his friends and family, surely there would be some evidence of his change in character during that time. We have found nothing, except for the same rehashed versions of stories that Molly posted on FB initially. I appreciate the intent to understand the defense perspective, and it can be helpful at times. Perhaps we would be more successful if we tried to establish areas where further sleuthing may be beneficial?

I have put together a rough timeline to see if that helps us locate any holes/potential -

• Molly attended Farragut High School, Class of 2001.

• She attended Clemson in 2003, but no further confirmation of her continued education there.

• We then have the yahoo profile from 2006, suggesting she has an 8 year old stepdaughter.

• Keith Maginn suggest they were in a relationship for about a year prior to her leaving for Ireland so that takes us back to Spring 2007. They met on an internet dating website, and she was living in a condominium owned by her parents in Knoxville at that time. He also references her teaching a children’s swim class during their time together.

• She was admitted to Emory Hospital in Atlanta, Georgia in February 2008.

• She flies to Ireland in March 2008 to take up her post as au pair for Jason.

IMO we are probably missing another mystery man between her time at Clemson and her taking up with Keith.

 

[stmarysmead]

Ah ok, I see where you are going. You are correct, the defense will do anything in their power to ensure the jury convict on the lesser charge of voluntary manslaughter, but I presume this is why the DA charged with both crimes, to give the jury an out should they fail to reach a unanimous verdict on the Murder 2. However, I do believe the prosecution has ample evidence to achieve the Murder 2 conviction, this is why Keith Maginn's testimony is crucial, because uncontrollable rage is not the same as imperfect self defense, and it highlights Molly's propensity for rage prior to this one event.

The defense really only has one option, ensure that people believe the version of Jason that they are putting out into the public realm. However, there does not seem to be a single shred of evidence released thus far by either side (apart from the statements of self defense by MM & TM) to back this up. Not one single thing has come out...they were living in the States for 4 years, away from his friends and family, surely there would be some evidence of his change in character during that time. We have found nothing, except for the same rehashed versions of stories that Molly posted on FB initially. I appreciate the intent to understand the defense perspective, and it can be helpful at times. Perhaps we would be more successful if we tried to establish areas where further sleuthing may be beneficial?

I have put together a rough timeline to see if that helps us locate any holes/potential -

• Molly attended Farragut High School, Class of 2001.

• She attended Clemson in 2003, but no further confirmation of her continued education there.

• We then have the yahoo profile from 2006, suggesting she has an 8 year old stepdaughter.

• Keith Maginn suggest they were in a relationship for about a year prior to her leaving for Ireland so that takes us back to Spring 2007. They met on an internet dating website, and she was living in a condominium owned by her parents in Knoxville at that time. He also references her teaching a children’s swim class during their time together.

• She was admitted to Emory Hospital in Atlanta, Georgia in February 2008.

• She flies to Ireland in March 2008 to take up her post as au pair for Jason.

IMO we are probably missing another mystery man between her time at Clemson and her taking up with Keith.

Thanks LogicLady! I think we are missing another man. But maybe the DA already has filled in the blanks.

 

[emmalpage81]

Thanks LogicLady! I think we are missing another man. But maybe the DA already has filled in the blanks.

I agree that more will come to the surface. Lets remember that KM said that he was contacted by the authorities a few months ago. They must have connected the dots from Molly to him. I have no doubt they will be doing the same with other individuals. I wonder if KM was aware of a previous serious relationship with a child. He doesn't allude to it in his article simply says that she loved kids and was working as a nanny in Knoxville and teaching swim class.

 

[stephanddoody]

I agree that more will come to the surface. Lets remember that KM said that he was contacted by the authorities a few months ago. They must have connected the dots from Molly to him. I have no doubt they will be doing the same with other individuals. I wonder if KM was aware of a previous serious relationship with a child. He doesn't allude to it in his article simply says that she loved kids and was working as a nanny in Knoxville and teaching swim class.

Yes there is definitely a lot more to surface . We should bear in mind that before Keith Maginns interview those that support Molly dismissed what Tracey said in the custody hearing as slanderous lies . Now we find out she was treated for bipolar at the age of 24 . Bipolar is not the flu it doesn't go away its controllable once medicated .Not for minute saying that people with bi polar are crazed killers but why lie about your illness And drugs that you have taken in the past . The father and child if there is one that she referred to in her yahoo posts would have definitely been found by now I would think maybe their testimony would be more beneficial to the prosecution especially regarding the relationship with the girl . This would be 2 years before she met Keith . Also would be interesting if there was a reason why she wanted to be a mother so strongly ? I think it's a little strange for a 24 year that is with a man for a few months to want children . My 20s were about parties and hanging out with friends children were the last thing on my mind and also very strange Keith mentions his own friends and family but never says anything about friends of Molly . Maybe I am looking into it too much


just my opinion

 

[kittythehare]

Yes there is definitely a lot more to surface . We should bear in mind that before Keith Maginns interview those that support Molly dismissed what Tracey said in the custody hearing as slanderous lies . Now we find out she was treated for bipolar at the age of 24 . Bipolar is not the flu it doesn't go away its controllable once medicated .Not for minute saying that people with bi polar are crazed killers but why lie about your illness And drugs that you have taken in the past . The father and child if there is one that she referred to in her yahoo posts would have definitely been found by now I would think maybe their testimony would be more beneficial to the prosecution especially regarding the relationship with the girl . This would be 2 years before she met Keith . Also would be interesting if there was a reason why she wanted to be a mother so strongly ? I think it's a little strange for a 24 year that is with a man for a few months to want children . My 20s were about parties and hanging out with friends children were the last thing on my mind and also very strange Keith mentions his own friends and family but never says anything about friends of Molly . Maybe I am looking into it too much


just my opinion

Narcissists dont have friends- they take hostages.
i believe it is likely she told herself and all who listened to her that keith was the problem and the reason she was leaving for Ireland.
She used him and she abused him.
it is evidence of her conniving, hanging on to him for dear life in hope he would bring illicit meds to her nuthouse, while secretly planning a trip to Ireland.
Ruthless.

 

[kittythehare]

I think there is a lot more that will come to light about MM's past than what just came out this weekend, I think there was someone before KM that had what she referred to as her step-daughter on yahoo. I'm sure that the prosecution is probably already in the know of all of this. I don't think MM's 4-day stay in the Emory pysch unit is what she has referred to in the past, she clearly implied she attended both Clemson and Emory Universities as a student.

There is a reference in KM's book (I read it on kindle last night) about MM's having developed some uterine problem: "Mary eventually developed a painful uterine disease that doctors attributed to years of putting so many powerful narcotics in her body. They believed the disease would bother her the rest of her life." I think this sheds some light on the emotional state she must have felt and the trouble with carrying a baby, imo, this on top of depression or bipolar could not be easy. I think she took off for Ireland to escape and start over as previously mentioned, and I'll say again as I did a few months ago in an earlier post, and has been said by others, that it's my opinion that she targeted him. She could've been a nanny for any family, possibly, but a young dad who lost his wife and has two babies essentially? In my opinion, she went there to be a mom, probably heartbroken still after her miscarriage. All of this will be used by the prosecution to paint a picture of who MM is, but they still need to be able to prove that she had the ability to become unhinged and violent. Yes the autopsy is the key but with a jury you never know what type of bleeding hearts are going to be on the panel.

Just one other thing I was thinking about b/c it came up in an earlier thread, I've calculated that when MM arrived in IRL, the children would have been 3yrs,4 months old, and 19 months old respectively. I came to this conclusion as it was stated in articles that the children were 2 yrs old, and 3 months old when their mom passed away, and MM arrived in IRL in March 2008. As far as her saying they called her Mom for 8-years, imo that's a lie.

I meant to respond to your excellent post earlier Annie.
When I read it first 'uterine disease as a result of long term narcotic use, my first thoughts were of endometriosis. I did some searching and here is what I found
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2628209/
http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/pediatrics/131/3/e1009.full.pdf
These documents are longwinded.. but the info is here and elsewhere if searched under peer reviewed and cited works.
it is possible she brought about her miscarriages through wrong use or excessive use of drugs.
A lot will depend of pharmacy or other sources for the meds she took.
we know from Keith she took excess to what was prescribed, possibly supplementing her prescribed meds with over the counter meds.
All of these contribute to her instability.
her alcohol consumption has also been extensively reported.

I agree she targeted him. She had experience with vulnerable men, Keith is one.