GUILTY NC - Jason Corbett, 39, murdered in his Wallburg home, 2 Aug 2015 #3

[searchinGirl]

Ah ok, I see where you are going. You are correct, the defense will do anything in their power to ensure the jury convict on the lesser charge of voluntary manslaughter, but I presume this is why the DA charged with both crimes, to give the jury an out should they fail to reach a unanimous verdict on the Murder 2. However, I do believe the prosecution has ample evidence to achieve the Murder 2 conviction, this is why Keith Maginn's testimony is crucial, because uncontrollable rage is not the same as imperfect self defense, and it highlights Molly's propensity for rage prior to this one event.

The defense really only has one option, ensure that people believe the version of Jason that they are putting out into the public realm. However, there does not seem to be a single shred of evidence released thus far by either side (apart from the statements of self defense by MM & TM) to back this up. Not one single thing has come out...they were living in the States for 4 years, away from his friends and family, surely there would be some evidence of his change in character during that time. We have found nothing, except for the same rehashed versions of stories that Molly posted on FB initially. I appreciate the intent to understand the defense perspective, and it can be helpful at times. Perhaps we would be more successful if we tried to establish areas where further sleuthing may be beneficial?

I have put together a rough timeline to see if that helps us locate any holes/potential -

• Molly attended Farragut High School, Class of 2001.

• She attended Clemson in 2003, but no further confirmation of her continued education there.

• We then have the yahoo profile from 2006, suggesting she has an 8 year old stepdaughter.

• Keith Maginn suggest they were in a relationship for about a year prior to her leaving for Ireland so that takes us back to Spring 2007. They met on an internet dating website, and she was living in a condominium owned by her parents in Knoxville at that time. He also references her teaching a children’s swim class during their time together.

• She was admitted to Emory Hospital in Atlanta, Georgia in February 2008.

• She flies to Ireland in March 2008 to take up her post as au pair for Jason.

IMO we are probably missing another mystery man between her time at Clemson and her taking up with Keith.

with all due respect I think the defense will do anything in its power to ensure an acquittal...but, I agree that uncontrollable rage and imperfect self-defense (ISD) are different...I think ISD might be the defense strategy for a worst-case scenario in Thomas Martens case ... and while it does sound like Molly may be a co--dependent rageaholic I think when a case is labeled domestic violence there is an inherent presumption that both people in the relationship argue as it takes two to tango so to speak...I think the value of Keith Maginn's testimony is in the way he described Molly's behavior when they argued...that she refused to let him leave to calm down is the most telling to me (can you envision Molly standing in front of the door yet not letting him out?)...that kind of constant engagement in the argument is what makes this situation volatile... and all Jason had to do was grab her arms and move her out of the way for the fight to begin... and I don't know if it's like this in North Carolina but in Colorado you don't have to strike someone to be charged with domestic violence...I mean, if you break something in front of your spouse and use intimidating loud language here it's considered a threat...and you can be arrested for criminal mischief with DV and lose your right to carry a firearm...but back to the point...the other thing that's telling to me in Maginn's book is Molly's talk of suicide... I think when people threaten other people with suicide those thoughts can easily turn to homicide...especially in the heat of the moment...

My thoughts on your areas of further sleuthing are that you should be able to find address(s) for the Martens properties by sleuthing the public record and if I was looking for a swim teacher I would start at the YMCA...but I'm not familiar with Knoxville public pools or city programs for children... same thing with the County that Farragut is in... however, I'm not too interested in traveling down that road because I just don't see the point... it's hearsay and I cannot convict on that alone...thanks for the lesson...

if nothing else Molly deserves a fair trial...

 

[stmarysmead]

http://www.thesun.ie/irishsol/homep...1-_-SunIEWorldNews-_-393604312-_-Imageandlink

"Uncle Michael added: “The onslaught of court cases arising from what happened is obviously ripping at the heart of this family.

“We are all suffering, the extended family, friends and work colleagues of us all. Every day is hard and our lives are on hold until the court case takes place."

Sorry. No tears for your extended family. You knew. You all knew. When MM boarded that plane right out of the mental ward, you all knew.

I have to say I have very little respect for the integrity or judgement or moral code of a family that would permit their daughter, fresh out of a psych ward, to jet off to a job caring for little babies on another continent. Even if I didn't give a fig about those babies, the Ex describes MM was suicidal at times. I would not want my daughter, with that history, so far away from our ability to be there to assist HER. But that said...I'm wondering...if TM did not participate in this killing...if he has really thought the whole scenario through.

I think these two killers would go down BIG TIME financially if a civil suit is filed. Their reputations, considering what the public will learn about the reckless way they allowed their mentally ill daughter to inflict herself on an unsuspecting widower and babies...will be decimated. Consider the Krim case (on this site) where the bipolar Nanny slaughtered the children because she was asked to do extra cleaning! This family allowed their bipolar, suicidal daughter to jet off to care for BABIES! Reckless disregard. And she ends up killing their Father!

That is the personification of reckless self involvement. They just wanted raving MM off their hands.

But MM essentially would just be giving back financially what she has already "confiscated" that should rightfully belong to the orphaned children. TM has more at stake. He's old and he has a old wife to consider. Yes, there are pensions that perhaps cannot be touched, but besides their reputations , their family finances will be a shambles.

Perhaps he is the co-killer...I don't know. But my gut tells me...this is a ploy that Mr.FBI thinks can get them both off Scot free. And I bet the timeline will prove there was plenty of time for scheming and collusion.

But maybe not for considering all the diverse consequences...

 

[Electric Sheep]

It's a sad thing that there is still such stigma attached to mental illness that Molly felt the need to hide hers. Maybe if she hadn't felt that need, all this would never have happened.

 

[stmarysmead]

It's a sad thing that there is still such stigma attached to mental illness that Molly felt the need to hide hers. Maybe if she hadn't felt that need, all this would never have happened.

You know, I agree completely. And where would that shame come from..from her family, I fear. Molly needed to be loved just as she was...and given every iota of support. She should have been praised for her talents and comforted when the world was hard.

After her hospitalization, she should have gone home to family...and lauded for the hard work she had put in and loved through whatever lay ahead.

If she felt shame, she learned it at home. If she felt she had to hide reality till she burst with rage...that started in childhood.

 

[kittythehare]

You know, I agree completely. And where would that shame come from..from her family, I fear. Molly needed to be loved just as she was...and given every iota of support. She should have been praised for her talents and comforted when the world was hard.

After her hospitalization, she should have gone home to family...and lauded for the hard work she had put in and loved through whatever lay ahead.

If she felt shame, she learned it at home. If she felt she had to hide reality till she burst with rage...that started in childhood.

there was/ is mental illness. Then there was the drinking to excess, the self medicating, the addiction..
which is it to be?

 

[stmarysmead]

True. And all that is her responsibility. She owns it now as an adult.

But this self styled "fine family" is a toxic mix of self-involvement, recklessness, and abdication of responsibility...beginning with their neglect of their own very disturbed child.

They knew. This is how evil is transmitted.

 

[Francesca]

It's a sad thing that there is still such stigma attached to mental illness that Molly felt the need to hide hers. Maybe if she hadn't felt that need, all this would never have happened.

I agree absolutely. Without the stigma, there is no shame or secrecy, and so Molly could have received appropriate treatment and appropriate support. She also would have had a wider circle of "gatekeepers" looking out for danger signals or triggers, so any potential problems could have been dealt with efficiently and openly before she compounded her problems.
And maybe with more acceptance from her family, she wouldn't have felt the need to create a false perfect persona, and she could have been at peace with who she was, and what she could do with her life. She was attractive, bright and capable - she could have made a real life for herself rather than trying to take over someone else's life. And she wouldn't have had that volcanic anger rising up inside her, ready to destroy someone.

 

[Logic-lady]

I have been thinking about all of the information we have to hand so far about the case, and it is intriguing/puzzling to me that despite the evidence appearing to stack against them, some people still adamantly believe that the Martens are innocent of this crime. Why is it so easy for people to believe that Jason somehow contributed to his death? Is it simply because of the DV claim? So far we have no evidence to show that Jason was a violent man, no evidence to show he was controlling or manipulative. In fact all of the witness testimony thus far (that we have seen) has been the opposite...so why are people still of the opinion that there must have been a physical altercation that escalated?

I am interested to understand this point as I think it signals the biggest hurdle for the prosecution to overcome. Is it simply people's prejudice against a 'bigger' man? Do people have that much faith in the FBI that they truly believe all FBI agents are above reproach? Is Molly really that believable? So far we have an autopsy that shows major overkill. We have bank accounts and a house that have been cleared out (motive?). We have independent testimony from an ex-fiance who has no vested interest in the case stating that Molly has severe emotional and mental illness. But yet, there are people who cannot see beyond the DV...despite having nothing bar Molly's testimony to back it up.

I find it strange. Even if you are to take the premise that the defense will discredit Keith Maginn as a disgruntled ex who led Molly down the wrong path and encouraged her addictions. Then presumably the next logical conclusion is that her parents supported her move to Ireland to escape him and rebuild her life. They were being good parents. But that surely leads to the bigger question, why if they were willing to step up and 'help' with one situation, were they not willing to step up and help their daughter (and two children they love as grandchildren) if Jason really was a threat to them?

What does the prosecution need to do to make people question the Martens version of events?

 

[stephanddoody]

I have been thinking about all of the information we have to hand so far about the case, and it is intriguing/puzzling to me that despite the evidence appearing to stack against them, some people still adamantly believe that the Martens are innocent of this crime. Why is it so easy for people to believe that Jason somehow contributed to his death? Is it simply because of the DV claim? So far we have no evidence to show that Jason was a violent man, no evidence to show he was controlling or manipulative. In fact all of the witness testimony thus far (that we have seen) has been the opposite...so why are people still of the opinion that there must have been a physical altercation that escalated?

I am interested to understand this point as I think it signals the biggest hurdle for the prosecution to overcome. Is it simply people's prejudice against a 'bigger' man? Do people have that much faith in the FBI that they truly believe all FBI agents are above reproach? Is Molly really that believable? So far we have an autopsy that shows major overkill. We have bank accounts and a house that have been cleared out (motive?). We have independent testimony from an ex-fiance who has no vested interest in the case stating that Molly has severe emotional and mental illness. But yet, there are people who cannot see beyond the DV...despite having nothing bar Molly's testimony to back it up.

I find it strange. Even if you are to take the premise that the defense will discredit Keith Maginn as a disgruntled ex who led Molly down the wrong path and encouraged her addictions. Then presumably the next logical conclusion is that her parents supported her move to Ireland to escape him and rebuild her life. They were being good parents. But that surely leads to the bigger question, why if they were willing to step up and 'help' with one situation, were they not willing to step up and help their daughter (and two children they love as grandchildren) if Jason really was a threat to them?

What does the prosecution need to do to make people question the Martens version of events?

Absolutely fantastic post . I'm not sure how much more the prosecution has to present . Everything that I have seen and learned about the Martens and the lengths the go to enable/assist Molly is almost unbelievably. There really has been so many twist and turns . You think well nothing more can happen and then it does ... It's like an emotional roller coaster it is draining and endless and Jasons family and friends can't get off the ride. My only thoughts on why people believe the Martens version of events is some know them personally. I'm sure Tom was a great FBI agent , researcher and general nice man doesn't change the fact that they have a deeply disturbed daughter, I'm sure Sharon was a great teacher and is a well respected lady doesn't change the fact that they enable their daughter to hide the extent of her illness. I'm sure her brothers are great all round hardworking people but none of this changes the fact they are willing to do anything to protect Molly even ruin a dead mans good name and try to take everything that belongs to him including his children. It's morally wrong . In my opinion the children were Mollys life . I'm sure to the children's friends moms she was nearly the perfect parent . Class assistant , swim coach , volunteer, domestic goddess ,loves children went everywhere with them even ate lunch with them at school. IMO a little too involved. I think people
that have followed her since this are troubled people themselves. They have been abused and are/were in violent relationships and were so hurt by that they can't see past their own troubles . They don't think or believe a big strong man was the victim of domestic abuse physically and emotionally . That a woman like the charming sweet innocent Molly could have possessed the rage and power to inflict so much damage to Jason's body . Men are also victims of DV ,no matter what they think there are a lot suffering in silence. There are less facilities and services for them We have all seen from her Facebook she can hurt with words and she says it in a way that it could be taken differently depending on how you are looking at it . The latest comment on Keith Maginns Facebook page especially the ps shows she uses others that are around her to carry out her dirty work when she can't . Imo

 

[searchinGirl]

I have been thinking about all of the information we have to hand so far about the case, and it is intriguing/puzzling to me that despite the evidence appearing to stack against them, some people still adamantly believe that the Martens are innocent of this crime. Why is it so easy for people to believe that Jason somehow contributed to his death? Is it simply because of the DV claim? So far we have no evidence to show that Jason was a violent man, no evidence to show he was controlling or manipulative. In fact all of the witness testimony thus far (that we have seen) has been the opposite...so why are people still of the opinion that there must have been a physical altercation that escalated?

I am interested to understand this point as I think it signals the biggest hurdle for the prosecution to overcome. Is it simply people's prejudice against a 'bigger' man? Do people have that much faith in the FBI that they truly believe all FBI agents are above reproach? Is Molly really that believable? So far we have an autopsy that shows major overkill. We have bank accounts and a house that have been cleared out (motive?). We have independent testimony from an ex-fiance who has no vested interest in the case stating that Molly has severe emotional and mental illness. But yet, there are people who cannot see beyond the DV...despite having nothing bar Molly's testimony to back it up.

I find it strange. Even if you are to take the premise that the defense will discredit Keith Maginn as a disgruntled ex who led Molly down the wrong path and encouraged her addictions. Then presumably the next logical conclusion is that her parents supported her move to Ireland to escape him and rebuild her life. They were being good parents. But that surely leads to the bigger question, why if they were willing to step up and 'help' with one situation, were they not willing to step up and help their daughter (and two children they love as grandchildren) if Jason really was a threat to them?

What does the prosecution need to do to make people question the Martens version of events?

Here in America we have a system of justice that is predicated on the presumption of innocence ... For the prosecution to make people question the Martens version of events they need to go to trial ... that is if they can get a fair one... God bless America...

 

[stmarysmead]

I have been thinking about all of the information we have to hand so far about the case, and it is intriguing/puzzling to me that despite the evidence appearing to stack against them, some people still adamantly believe that the Martens are innocent of this crime. Why is it so easy for people to believe that Jason somehow contributed to his death? Is it simply because of the DV claim? So far we have no evidence to show that Jason was a violent man, no evidence to show he was controlling or manipulative. In fact all of the witness testimony thus far (that we have seen) has been the opposite...so why are people still of the opinion that there must have been a physical altercation that escalated?

I am interested to understand this point as I think it signals the biggest hurdle for the prosecution to overcome. Is it simply people's prejudice against a 'bigger' man? Do people have that much faith in the FBI that they truly believe all FBI agents are above reproach? Is Molly really that believable? So far we have an autopsy that shows major overkill. We have bank accounts and a house that have been cleared out (motive?). We have independent testimony from an ex-fiance who has no vested interest in the case stating that Molly has severe emotional and mental illness. But yet, there are people who cannot see beyond the DV...despite having nothing bar Molly's testimony to back it up.

I find it strange. Even if you are to take the premise that the defense will discredit Keith Maginn as a disgruntled ex who led Molly down the wrong path and encouraged her addictions. Then presumably the next logical conclusion is that her parents supported her move to Ireland to escape him and rebuild her life. They were being good parents. But that surely leads to the bigger question, why if they were willing to step up and 'help' with one situation, were they not willing to step up and help their daughter (and two children they love as grandchildren) if Jason really was a threat to them?

What does the prosecution need to do to make people question the Martens version of events?

What an articulate, insightful post! So glad you are here and part of the discussion! ❤️

In my view, the problem, in part, is something I have come to call "team spirit." Years ago, we saw it mainly in sporting events: we wanted out team to win...and if the refs calls went against our team, we swore they were blind, or bought off. People would see a ball out of bounds and, true to team spirit, swear it was in bounds. It wasn't about wanting the truth; it was about wanting OUR team to win.

Today, team spirit is not just in the sports arenas, it's in the media and the courtroom. It's terrifying.

People bring their own personal histories and their own personal pain to these cases. The way we look at Molly or Jason has a lot to do with our own life story. That's understandable. But what is so terribly skewed and unfair, is the increasing unwillingness to let Truth decide these cases rather than Team Spirit. We treat evidence we don't like or that goes against our "team"... no matter how credible...as a lie, manufactured, a trick. The attorneys encourage it. We already have seen lies in this case and it hasn't even started.

It's hard to stake out a position and admit we were wrong. Perhaps MM installed a camera in that bedroom and I'll have to recant every word I've written. I hope I have the integrity to do that and not respond as many MM supporters have done to a years old book on Amazon...as if it were just slapped up there a week ago. Watching the response to the author just sickens my heart as to what our regard for truth is today. What our media is today. What our Justice system in America is today. What WE are today.

We don't want the Truth anymore. It's "not about the truth" at all. Keep the truth out unless it helps US. We want our Team to win. End of story.

 

[Logic-lady]

Interesting to note that Emory Hospital is linked to Emory University so very possibly a link to Sharon Martens here - http://www.emoryhealthcare.org/psychiatry/inpatient-psychiatry/about-inpatient-psychiatry.html

They are an acute care, or short term hospital, with the goal it appears of establishing a treatment plan for the patient to take forward and work with. It advises in the 'What to Bring' section, that clothing is required for 3 days (http://www.emoryhealthcare.org/psychiatry/inpatient-psychiatry/patient-guide/what-to-bring.html ) so this may be a pointer as to why Molly only stayed at the facility for such a short time.

It is interesting to note that one of the conditions for attending Emory is the following - Medications: Medication given to you while here must be prescribed by the physician and dispensed by the nursing staff at the scheduled times. Please ask questions if you have them. You should know the name, the actions, and any potential side effects of the medicines you are given. Medication brought in at admission usually is returned to you, or may be disposed of at your doctor’s suggestion. If the trial does focus on the Trazodone in Jason's system, and the prescription is in fact Molly's, then this could be harmful to her defense.

Perhaps the approach to confidentiality was another plus in Molly and her family choosing this institution? - Confidentiality: You will be given a confidentiality code number at the time of your admission. This code should be given to specific others who know you are a patient in the hospital who will be contacting you on the phone or visiting you while you are here. This code will allow the staff to acknowledge that you are a patient here. Otherwise staff will not disclose that you are a patient here and will not honor the call.If you do not wish people to know you are here, please inform the staff upon admission.

Nothing concrete here, just wanted to get a better feel for where Molly was prior to her departure for Ireland.

 

[searchinGirl]

What an articulate, insightful post! So glad you are here and part of the discussion! ❤️

In my view, the problem, in part, is something I have come to call "team spirit." Years ago, we saw it mainly in sporting events: we wanted out team to win...and if the refs calls went against our team, we swore they were blind, or bought off. People would see a ball out of bounds and, true to team spirit, swear it was in bounds. It wasn't about wanting the truth; it was about wanting OUR team to win.

Today, team spirit is not just in the sports arenas, it's in the media and the courtroom. It's terrifying.

People bring their own personal histories and their own personal pain to these cases. The way we look at Molly or Jason has a lot to do with our own life story. That's understandable. But what is so terribly skewed and unfair, is the increasing unwillingness to let Truth decide these cases rather than Team Spirit. We treat evidence we don't like or that goes against our "team"... no matter how credible...as a lie, manufactured, a trick. The attorneys encourage it. We already have seen lies in this case and it hasn't even started.

It's hard to stake out a position and admit we were wrong. Perhaps MM installed a camera in that bedroom and I'll have to recant every word I've written. I hope I have the integrity to do that and not respond as many MM supporters have done to a years old book on Amazon...as if it were just slapped up there a week ago. Watching the response to the author just sickens my heart as to what our regard for truth is today. What our media is today. What our Justice system in America is today. What WE are today.

We don't want the Truth anymore. It's "not about the truth" at all. Keep the truth out unless it helps US. We want our Team to win. End of story.

Best post I have read from you...good insight of human nature...

 

[kittythehare]

Interesting to note that Emory Hospital is linked to Emory University so very possibly a link to Sharon Martens here - http://www.emoryhealthcare.org/psychiatry/inpatient-psychiatry/about-inpatient-psychiatry.html

They are an acute care, or short term hospital, with the goal it appears of establishing a treatment plan for the patient to take forward and work with. It advises in the 'What to Bring' section, that clothing is required for 3 days (http://www.emoryhealthcare.org/psychiatry/inpatient-psychiatry/patient-guide/what-to-bring.html ) so this may be a pointer as to why Molly only stayed at the facility for such a short time.

It is interesting to note that one of the conditions for attending Emory is the following - Medications: Medication given to you while here must be prescribed by the physician and dispensed by the nursing staff at the scheduled times. Please ask questions if you have them. You should know the name, the actions, and any potential side effects of the medicines you are given. Medication brought in at admission usually is returned to you, or may be disposed of at your doctor’s suggestion. If the trial does focus on the Trazodone in Jason's system, and the prescription is in fact Molly's, then this could be harmful to her defense.

Perhaps the approach to confidentiality was another plus in Molly and her family choosing this institution? - Confidentiality: You will be given a confidentiality code number at the time of your admission. This code should be given to specific others who know you are a patient in the hospital who will be contacting you on the phone or visiting you while you are here. This code will allow the staff to acknowledge that you are a patient here. Otherwise staff will not disclose that you are a patient here and will not honor the call.If you do not wish people to know you are here, please inform the staff upon admission.

Nothing concrete here, just wanted to get a better feel for where Molly was prior to her departure for Ireland.

good work.
Its possible this was her habitual 'dry-out' institution as well. its possible most of her admissions were to this institution?
Far enough away from home.. secret ,maintained?

 

[searchinGirl]

Interesting to note that Emory Hospital is linked to Emory University so very possibly a link to Sharon Martens here - http://www.emoryhealthcare.org/psychiatry/inpatient-psychiatry/about-inpatient-psychiatry.html

They are an acute care, or short term hospital, with the goal it appears of establishing a treatment plan for the patient to take forward and work with. It advises in the 'What to Bring' section, that clothing is required for 3 days (http://www.emoryhealthcare.org/psychiatry/inpatient-psychiatry/patient-guide/what-to-bring.html ) so this may be a pointer as to why Molly only stayed at the facility for such a short time.

It is interesting to note that one of the conditions for attending Emory is the following - Medications: Medication given to you while here must be prescribed by the physician and dispensed by the nursing staff at the scheduled times. Please ask questions if you have them. You should know the name, the actions, and any potential side effects of the medicines you are given. Medication brought in at admission usually is returned to you, or may be disposed of at your doctor’s suggestion. If the trial does focus on the Trazodone in Jason's system, and the prescription is in fact Molly's, then this could be harmful to her defense.

Perhaps the approach to confidentiality was another plus in Molly and her family choosing this institution? - Confidentiality: You will be given a confidentiality code number at the time of your admission. This code should be given to specific others who know you are a patient in the hospital who will be contacting you on the phone or visiting you while you are here. This code will allow the staff to acknowledge that you are a patient here. Otherwise staff will not disclose that you are a patient here and will not honor the call.If you do not wish people to know you are here, please inform the staff upon admission.

Nothing concrete here, just wanted to get a better feel for where Molly was prior to her departure for Ireland.

just fyi, something I remembered about muscle relaxers...they were prescribed to a bipolar friend when she received electro-shock treatments...and I believe the presumption of how trazodone entered JCs system will be that he ingested them as there is no proof (that I am aware of) that she slipped them to him...it seems to me the only defense strategy is to attack the Autopsy Report...IMO that means his intimidating size, the alcohol and the trazodone...IMO

 

[Logic-lady]

What an articulate, insightful post! So glad you are here and part of the discussion! ❤️

In my view, the problem, in part, is something I have come to call "team spirit." Years ago, we saw it mainly in sporting events: we wanted out team to win...and if the refs calls went against our team, we swore they were blind, or bought off. People would see a ball out of bounds and, true to team spirit, swear it was in bounds. It wasn't about wanting the truth; it was about wanting OUR team to win.

Today, team spirit is not just in the sports arenas, it's in the media and the courtroom. It's terrifying.

People bring their own personal histories and their own personal pain to these cases. The way we look at Molly or Jason has a lot to do with our own life story. That's understandable. But what is so terribly skewed and unfair, is the increasing unwillingness to let Truth decide these cases rather than Team Spirit. We treat evidence we don't like or that goes against our "team"... no matter how credible...as a lie, manufactured, a trick. The attorneys encourage it. We already have seen lies in this case and it hasn't even started.

It's hard to stake out a position and admit we were wrong. Perhaps MM installed a camera in that bedroom and I'll have to recant every word I've written. I hope I have the integrity to do that and not respond as many MM supporters have done to a years old book on Amazon...as if it were just slapped up there a week ago. Watching the response to the author just sickens my heart as to what our regard for truth is today. What our media is today. What our Justice system in America is today. What WE are today.

We don't want the Truth anymore. It's "not about the truth" at all. Keep the truth out unless it helps US. We want our Team to win. End of story.

Thanks stmarysmead! Great response, and sadly true...I hope, for Jack & Sarah's sake that the trial manages to uncover truths rather than allegiances!

 

[stmarysmead]

Interesting to note that Emory Hospital is linked to Emory University so very possibly a link to Sharon Martens here - http://www.emoryhealthcare.org/psychiatry/inpatient-psychiatry/about-inpatient-psychiatry.html

They are an acute care, or short term hospital, with the goal it appears of establishing a treatment plan for the patient to take forward and work with. It advises in the 'What to Bring' section, that clothing is required for 3 days (http://www.emoryhealthcare.org/psychiatry/inpatient-psychiatry/patient-guide/what-to-bring.html ) so this may be a pointer as to why Molly only stayed at the facility for such a short time.

It is interesting to note that one of the conditions for attending Emory is the following - Medications: Medication given to you while here must be prescribed by the physician and dispensed by the nursing staff at the scheduled times. Please ask questions if you have them. You should know the name, the actions, and any potential side effects of the medicines you are given. Medication brought in at admission usually is returned to you, or may be disposed of at your doctor’s suggestion. If the trial does focus on the Trazodone in Jason's system, and the prescription is in fact Molly's, then this could be harmful to her defense.

Perhaps the approach to confidentiality was another plus in Molly and her family choosing this institution? - Confidentiality: You will be given a confidentiality code number at the time of your admission. This code should be given to specific others who know you are a patient in the hospital who will be contacting you on the phone or visiting you while you are here. This code will allow the staff to acknowledge that you are a patient here. Otherwise staff will not disclose that you are a patient here and will not honor the call.If you do not wish people to know you are here, please inform the staff upon admission.

Nothing concrete here, just wanted to get a better feel for where Molly was prior to her departure for Ireland.

Good sleuthing, Logic Lady! I've mentioned before that my daughter is a Doctor, though not a psychiatrist. Nevertheless, the spectre of medical malpractice suits does permeate their response to patient care. KEith mentions that MM had been suicidal and a very large number of prescriptions. I would think after a short stay that any doctor would have required MM to continue to be under some type of supervision, for their best interests as well as hers. Yet her parents enable her go jet off to Ireland! Astounding how reckless this family is in regard to her safety and the safety of a newborn and toddler about to be in her care!

 

[stmarysmead]

Great post-
excellent observation- nobody gets off this ride!
As time has progressed, I have come to the conclusion that Molly does not rea;lly care for those children at all. My observations come from her manipulations, her deceit, and her malice.. to send her croney to make a public post deriding the author, the victim and the guardians is absolutely appalling.. she is well and she is centred in her malice, she is pulling all the strings and she is using people mercilessly to obtain her own ends.

what is clear is that she hates the Corbetts with a vehement passion.

I suggest her 'fondness' for children arises from her long history of drug induced miscarriages. It is called transference. Whether it arises from a guilt or a psychosis is a matter for the experts.
it is obsessive, it is insane.
Either way, its unlikely it stopped or even slowed her illicit drug taking.
Is molly a manic depressive or a drug addict?

Sadly, I have come to agree about the children. It's pathology, not Mother love. I keep thinking about the mini-water boarding session against the boy, sworn to in the custody hearing. These children will soon be teenagers. I would be very frightened to have any teenager...grown beyond the "my sunshine" and "my happy" stage in the care of a rage-killer. But yet her extended family moved heaven and earth to do that...and then hey would have swanned off to their homes, hours away...leaving the children...with the killer.

 

[searchinGirl]

Great post-
excellent observation- nobody gets off this ride!
As time has progressed, I have come to the conclusion that Molly does not rea;lly care for those children at all. My observations come from her manipulations, her deceit, and her malice.. to send her croney to make a public post deriding the author, the victim and the guardians is absolutely appalling.. she is well and she is centred in her malice, she is pulling all the strings and she is using people mercilessly to obtain her own ends.

what is clear is that she hates the Corbetts with a vehement passion.

I suggest her 'fondness' for children arises from her long history of drug induced miscarriages. It is called transference. Whether it arises from a guilt or a psychosis is a matter for the experts.
it is obsessive, it is insane.
Either way, its unlikely it stopped or even slowed her illicit drug taking.
Is molly a manic depressive or a drug addict?

Do you have a link to support a long history of drug induced miscarriages?... I would like to know more about that...

 

[Logic-lady]

Good sleuthing, Logic Lady! I've mentioned before that my daughter is a Doctor, though not a psychiatrist. Nevertheless, the spectre of medical malpractice suits does permeate their response to patient care. KEith mentions that MM had been suicidal and a very large number of prescriptions. I would think after a short stay that any doctor would have required MM to continue to be under some type of supervision, for their best interests as well as hers. Yet her parents enable her go jet off to Ireland! Astounding how reckless this family is in regard to her safety and the safety of a newborn and toddler about to be in her care!

I agree. Even now, the MO seems to be to attack, attack, attack....I believe that most people who cause a death, even if it was in a survival situation would have some level of guilt for taking a life. We have seen nothing to this effect thus far from the defense.

From reading the first chapter of Keith's book, I would concur that Molly attended Emory for her severe depression and reliance on the cocktail of drugs she was taking. It is doubtful that an effective treatment plan could have been established in that short time frame, and certainly, Keith does not mention her demeanor stabilising prior to her departure. While Emory does offer forms of electro shock therapy, I would doubt that she had this for two reasons - firstly, she was already on the muscle relaxants when she entered the facility (according to the information we have to hand), and secondly, that type of treatment appears to require a stay of a few weeks.

It is sad, Molly obviously can achieve the high functioning end of her illness, if only she had the correct support, she could probably have lived a fulfilled and happy life.