GUILTY NC - Jason Corbett, 39, murdered in his Wallburg home, 2 Aug 2015 #3

[stmarysmead]

Here's a point I'd like the prosecutor to make if MM uses the abuse excuse. This is a family that has two Federal agents...her Father and her Uncle. We can see that....immediately...before Jason was off the autopsy table, they knew exactly how to swing into action. They were flat out amazing in their organization and speed! They were not afraid to flash badges and use their status to do whatever it takes to get MM everything she wanted. They immediately found attorneys, filed court papers, tried to access Jason's office, arranged for a cremation.

They were a crack team using every resource and contact and bit of Federal authority that they had, to save Molly. They did not hold back, hesitate. They were all in!

And yet we are asked to believe that they did nothing, knowing MM was in an abusive relationship? They abandoned her...while they lived hours away? They didn't know how to use their contacts, their knowledge of the law, their attorneys knowledge, the power of that badge...to do ANYTHING? The same people moving heaven and earth were...blasé...helpless...not a clue?

Not this crack team! That's unbelievable!

There was no DV...or this family of federal officiers would have had Jason served a complaint at his workplace. Mortified him in front of his employees. They would have found a save space for Molly and the kids. They would have hired lawyers...had his pay docked...filed for custody under NC law that would have slowed MM custody if Jason was abusive.

They would have operated like the crack team they did after killing the man...using every bit of their familial knowledge, local contacts and Federal authority.

But they didn't. None if it. Ever.

I hope the Prosecutor points this out and reams it home to the jury.

 

[Truthalways]

On a positive note, it appears as it will to the Jury there was no financial spousal abuse or financial control by Jason Corbett. Quite the opposite by the looks of things.

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[tlcya]

:stop:

Enough bickering and calling one another out. Discuss the case - not one another.

 

[searchinGirl]

there is a long way to go before this case goes to trial...but I imagine the next hearing at the end of May will set the date and will involve matters of separate juries or separate trials for MM & TM?...change of venue?... witness lists?...I wish we knew why the Sheriff investigated 1st degree murder but they are charged with 2nd degree?... I think the property issues are going to be put on the back-burner for awhile...as they should be...IMO

 

[fido]

Here's a point I'd like the prosecutor to make if MM uses the abuse excuse. This is a family that has two Federal agents...her Father and her Uncle. We can see that....immediately...before Jason was off the autopsy table, they knew exactly how to swing into action. They were flat out amazing in their organization and speed! They were not afraid to flash badges and use their status to do whatever it takes to get MM everything she wanted. They immediately found attorneys, filed court papers, tried to access Jason's office, arranged for a cremation.

They were a crack team using every resource and contact and bit of Federal authority that they had, to save Molly. They did not hold back, hesitate. They were all in!

And yet we are asked to believe that they did nothing, knowing MM was in an abusive relationship? They abandoned her...while they lived hours away? They didn't know how to use their contacts, their knowledge of the law, their attorneys knowledge, the power of that badge...to do ANYTHING? The same people moving heaven and earth were...blasé...helpless...not a clue?

Not this crack team! That's unbelievable!

There was no DV...or this family of federal officiers would have had Jason served a complaint at his workplace. Mortified him in front of his employees. They would have found a save space for Molly and the kids. They would have hired lawyers...had his pay docked...filed for custody under NC law that would have slowed MM custody if Jason was abusive.

They would have operated like the crack team they did after killing the man...using every bit of their familial knowledge, local contacts and Federal authority.

But they didn't. None if it. Ever.

I hope the Prosecutor points this out and reams it home to the jury.

i agree 100%... But she can wriggle out of that by saying she hid the alleged abuse in common with bone fide abused wives because she was ashamed... Ie she never told them about abuse.... I don't believe her for one minute but a jury could swallow this I fear...

 

[stmarysmead]

i agree 100%... But she can wriggle out of that by saying she hid the alleged abuse in common with bone fide abused wives because she was ashamed... Ie she never told them about abuse.... I don't believe her for one minute but a jury could swallow this I fear...

Good point. But here's my answer to that. TM was in the basement when he heard the fight. Why did he bring a bat upstairs? Why did he arm himself? And why did he and SM come running back, driving hours?

If they didn't know about abuse, then it could only be because their bipolar daughter was spiraling out of control. Also, why would SN abusive husband drag his inlaws in so many vacations and allow them to visit so much.

I hope the prosecutor makes a record from FB and Instagram of all the time they spent together. Another huge hole in the story, if claimed?

 

[searchinGirl]

i agree 100%... But she can wriggle out of that by saying she hid the alleged abuse in common with bone fide abused wives because she was ashamed... Ie she never told them about abuse.... I don't believe her for one minute but a jury could swallow this I fear...

I believe a jury might be sympathetic to her too...it depends on her story...I think there is a good chance TM could be acquitted regardless of how it works out for Molly... then I'm curious how the outcome of one will affect the other...I still wonder if there are any plea deals being negotiated...IMO

 

[fido]

I believe a jury might be sympathetic to her too...it depends on her story...I think there is a good chance TM could be acquitted regardless of how it works out for Molly... then I'm curious how the outcome of one will affect the other...I still wonder if there are any plea deals being negotiated...IMO

in my opinion there is no way TM will agree to a plea deal. He was there helping her off with coat at the last hearing!!! He won't let her go down to save himself. They'll stick to the party line by hook or by crook..

 

[searchinGirl]

in my opinion there is no way TM will agree to a plea deal. He was there helping her off with coat at the last hearing!!! He won't let her go down to save himself. They'll stick to the party line by hook or by crook..

actually, what I was thinking if TM is acquitted then would Molly take a deal of some kind...?... I do believe Jason's estate should go to his children...I don't have a clue what the deal would be but I'm sure it would include that...IMO

 

[Electric Sheep]

actually, what I was thinking if TM is acquitted then would Molly take a deal of some kind...?... I do believe Jason's estate should go to his children...I don't have a clue what the deal would be but I'm sure it would include that...IMO

I think that would be a separate issue - a probate issue, rather than a criminal issue.

 

[searchinGirl]

I think that would be a separate issue - a probate issue, rather than a criminal issue.

you're right...but, all that is on hold for now pending resolution of Molly's trial...and even though it's not about the money...why do I get a sense it's all about the money?...IMO...I wonder if there is any plea wherein she would agree to anything?

 

[kittythehare]

Here's a point I'd like the prosecutor to make if MM uses the abuse excuse. This is a family that has two Federal agents...her Father and her Uncle. We can see that....immediately...before Jason was off the autopsy table, they knew exactly how to swing into action. They were flat out amazing in their organization and speed! They were not afraid to flash badges and use their status to do whatever it takes to get MM everything she wanted. They immediately found attorneys, filed court papers, tried to access Jason's office, arranged for a cremation.

They were a crack team using every resource and contact and bit of Federal authority that they had, to save Molly. They did not hold back, hesitate. They were all in!

And yet we are asked to believe that they did nothing, knowing MM was in an abusive relationship? They abandoned her...while they lived hours away? They didn't know how to use their contacts, their knowledge of the law, their attorneys knowledge, the power of that badge...to do ANYTHING? The same people moving heaven and earth were...blasé...helpless...not a clue?

Not this crack team! That's unbelievable!

There was no DV...or this family of federal officiers would have had Jason served a complaint at his workplace. Mortified him in front of his employees. They would have found a save space for Molly and the kids. They would have hired lawyers...had his pay docked...filed for custody under NC law that would have slowed MM custody if Jason was abusive.

They would have operated like the crack team they did after killing the man...using every bit of their familial knowledge, local contacts and Federal authority.

But they didn't. None if it. Ever.

I hope the Prosecutor points this out and reams it home to the jury.

Nope, you are wrong about the two FBI agents in the family.
There are THREE- her brother is also FBI.
And I will never understand why this case does not have a MEGA media profile in USA due to this fact alone..

 

[kittythehare]

I think that would be a separate issue - a probate issue, rather than a criminal issue.

Its a probate issue. nothing to do with the criminal case.
This is a murder case.
Is he dead?
How did he die?
Who killed him?
Why?

 

[Electric Sheep]

you're right...but, all that is on hold for now pending resolution of Molly's trial...and even though it's not about the money...why do I get a sense it's all about the money?...IMO...I wonder if there is any plea wherein she would agree to anything?

Am I the only one who thinks this had nothing to do with money? I really don't think it does. This was a crime of rage. We don't yet know what triggered that rage. If this was about money, it would have been planned and executed in a much more clever fashion, the cover story would not be so inept.

 

[searchinGirl]

Am I the only one who thinks this had nothing to do with money? I really don't think it does. This was a crime of rage. We don't yet know what triggered that rage. If this was about money, it would have been planned and executed in a much more clever fashion, the cover story would not be so inept.

to clarify...I should have said money after the fact...IMO the money and property disputes since the murder have been a major distraction from the criminal trials...IMO...yes I agree Molly went into a rage and went too far...what made her snap?...

 

[stmarysmead]

Am I the only one who thinks this had nothing to do with money? I really don't think it does. This was a crime of rage. We don't yet know what triggered that rage. If this was about money, it would have been planned and executed in a much more clever fashion, the cover story would not be so inept.

Well, we can debate whether the crime was about money...but there's no doubt the aftermath has been an obscene quest for money, money, money.

#Greedgrab

 

[kittythehare]

very true. This IMO was a rage killing . We know this is being charged as murder 2 so no premeditation needs to be proved . In saying that though nobody has any idea what we were discussing before this whole thing was brought up without absolutely no evidence to back up claims .I'm going to suggest we use the ignore button and continue with the discussion about helping Jason the victim because otherwise this whole thread may end up as help exonerate Molly and Tom and come up with reasons why everything the police have said thus far to be inaccurate. IMO

Exactly.
it is exhausting, draining and mostly insulting.

 

[Truthalways]

I think if I remember rightly we were talking about the possibility that Tom bringing the bat could be used against him rather than going in his favour . Also I always love to know what Sharon was doing and why didn't she get help and what are your thoughts on why Mike was/is so involved. I know we all help our family but he is very involved even risking his job . Have we got a list of lies he told or indeed a list of the lies or half truths they have all told after the fact. Might give us a better understanding of how the jury will view them

IMO Mike may have been called straight away by Sharon. Tm and mm would have been taken for questioning by LE and Sharon also. Both him and his wife Mona would have been given their jobs as such. Mona takes care of the kids Mike starts the cover up. I'm thinking now that maybe in the grand plan possibly concocted by tm and mm maybe they played it safe keeping Sharon out of it, telling her to make a statement saying she didn't hear or see anything as she was asleep. This would explain perhaps her taking a step back. They might not have wanted to risk a third witness giving a statement. The more statements the more flaws between one persons version of events and the next person....even if it's scripted.




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[Electric Sheep]

to clarify...I should have said money after the fact...IMO the money and property disputes since the murder have been a major distraction from the criminal trials...IMO...yes I agree Molly went into a rage and went too far...what made her snap?...

I doubt we will ever know what made her snap. In fact, we will probably never know the truth about what happened that night. The Martens will either plea bargain, or stick to their story. Either way, we probably won't hear the story.

 

[Truthalways]

The more I look at the actions, behaviour and general life of the Martens family until August 1st the more I am leaning towards a jury finding one or both guilty.
Before Jason's murder we have what appears to be on the outside decent, well educated, middle class, church going family. There will be witnesses lining up to give testimony of this "fine family" I have no doubt. Mm herself, model, swim coach, volunteer, Great mother all round near perfect. So on August 2nd 2 members of this fine family beat Jason to death on his bedroom floor ok, ok it was self defence, alright so the law abiding, well educated etc etc father and daughter were merely protecting themselves. If that were true we still would hold on to the idea that they were a fine family and most probably we along with a jury would have sympathy for their circumstances.

However. We now have a fine family who acted in self defence suddenly enlisting an uncle to gain illegal access to the victims office in the 24 hours after his death. We have daughter and father with no injuries defensive or otherwise on either of them. We have insurance companies being called. Funerals being organised. Sharon phoning the victims family 10 hours after his death to say mm had pushed him and he fell. We have tracey corbett testifying she recieved a phone call from mm where she admitted to the killing. We have a grieving widow taking two orphans out for "ice cream" .. as you do. We have a scramble by mm for custody and a possible dash for passports. All in the 24 to 48 hours after Jason was beaten to death.

In the weeks following. We have mm allegedly denying Jasons family access to both Jason's body and children. We have her and the children happily getting ready for the start of school. The Facebook family pictures come down replaced by mm and Jason's 2 children, he is basically erased completely. We have the custody battle that ensues, slanderous comments posted by her cousin about Jason on fb. Herself and uncle Mike berating the corbett family, speaking of conspiracy, trying to allegedly board a plane to stop the children from leaving. Trying to employ pilots to fly banners over the grieving victims family hometown declaring her love. Hidden messages left for the kids in their toys, dramatic radio interviews basically asking strangers to approach the kids. Her anger rising on her fb posts all the time. Her handful of supporters get on board and post pictures of Jasons children and also berate the corbett family. And not one mention of remorse, grief, sorrow from ONE member of her family, herself or her friends. And at some point she's enough time even though she's so busy to take large amounts of money from a joint account.
We have her refusal to give the children items they have requested including their mothers rings. We have pictures of their belongings strewn out on the driveway and the corbetts outside refused access to their brothers home. I'm probably missing a lot out here !

To sum up... if I was on a jury and went into this case seeing a fine family who were confronted by a monster on Aug 2nd and who acted to save their own lives or the lives of each other. I would absolutely and utterly appalled by the above actions and possibly more of this family in the hours days and months after that night. They are not the actions of a normal decent family who feared for their lives and had to do what they did. IMO they are a family with narcissistic, dishonest and sometimes nasty characteristics that don't fit with the ^fine family" picture.
Mm and tm lost their case IMO in their actions in the hours days, and months after the night of Aug 2nd. And that's not even taking into account the incriminating autopsy.

All just my thoughts and opinions.






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