Delighted with the outcome today, it was the right decision. I'm from Limerick myself, I know members of the Fitzpatrick family, my kids have attended Mag's creche and I knew Jason to see, but not personally. Friends of mine are friends of theirs. I'm delighted for all of them, and those close to the families who have suffered these past 2 years. Most admiration goes to TL & DL who have just been amazing from the get go. What a fantastic sister and brother-in-law they are to Jason.
Regards the case, there were no winners here. Multiple families destroyed and a real human tragedy. Two kids orphaned, and I just hope they turn out ok as they go through their teenage years and in to adulthood. Unlike many here, I do not believe all the Martens to be the 'evil' caricatures that some like to paint them as. MM though must take full responsibility for this entire, sorry affair. Based on her comment regarding the kids 'now losing both parents', I do believe she is mentally unwell. Because that was delusion in it's purest form. Her parents made really bad decisions and in the process they have destroyed their entire family unit and everything they have ever worked for. TM will die in jail and his wife will die apart from him. They will also probably lose everything else in the upcoming civil case. As sad as all that is, it is fully deserved. I thought the blood spatter expert was outstanding, as were the prosecutions closing arguments & rebuttal.
As for what really happened that night, only the three Martens can truly answer that. Whether we'll ever hear the full truth is another thing. Putting aside the narrative offered at trial, I don't really believe the story that was presented. My gut feeling is that MM attacked JC with the brick (after possibly drugging him) and had already killed or incapacitated him before TM ever got involved - the blood and matter on the brick meant it did serious damage. I believe everything after that including the bat, the over kill, the wall indentations and the scene in general was all staged after JC had already passed. He was moved. He received blows after death and his body was cool when paramedics arrived. And that is why the Martens deserve every minute of the sentence they were handed. They chose lies and deceit and took a gamble on authorities believing the concocted story of a 30 year FBI veteran.
I have enjoyed my 17 months on websleuths. Admittedly I did more reading than posting, but it was a great source of information. Special thanks to stephenddoody for all the Irish media articles.<modsnip> there were also some excellent posters here who were objective and kept an open mind at all times in what was a very difficult case. Most important though was that the right result was delivered by the jury.
Thanks, and see you all again if the civil case features on here!
Regards the case, there were no winners here. Multiple families destroyed and a real human tragedy. Two kids orphaned, and I just hope they turn out ok as they go through their teenage years and in to adulthood. Unlike many here, I do not believe all the Martens to be the 'evil' caricatures that some like to paint them as. MM though must take full responsibility for this entire, sorry affair. Based on her comment regarding the kids 'now losing both parents', I do believe she is mentally unwell. Because that was delusion in it's purest form. Her parents made really bad decisions and in the process they have destroyed their entire family unit and everything they have ever worked for. TM will die in jail and his wife will die apart from him. They will also probably lose everything else in the upcoming civil case. As sad as all that is, it is fully deserved. I thought the blood spatter expert was outstanding, as were the prosecutions closing arguments & rebuttal.
As for what really happened that night, only the three Martens can truly answer that. Whether we'll ever hear the full truth is another thing. Putting aside the narrative offered at trial, I don't really believe the story that was presented. My gut feeling is that MM attacked JC with the brick (after possibly drugging him) and had already killed or incapacitated him before TM ever got involved - the blood and matter on the brick meant it did serious damage. I believe everything after that including the bat, the over kill, the wall indentations and the scene in general was all staged after JC had already passed. He was moved. He received blows after death and his body was cool when paramedics arrived. And that is why the Martens deserve every minute of the sentence they were handed. They chose lies and deceit and took a gamble on authorities believing the concocted story of a 30 year FBI veteran.
I have enjoyed my 17 months on websleuths. Admittedly I did more reading than posting, but it was a great source of information. Special thanks to stephenddoody for all the Irish media articles.<modsnip> there were also some excellent posters here who were objective and kept an open mind at all times in what was a very difficult case. Most important though was that the right result was delivered by the jury.
Thanks, and see you all again if the civil case features on here!
