NC - Kathy Taft, 62, Raleigh, 6 March 2010 - #1

[laces]

I agree Susu, an outsider would be noticed. ...Does anyone here remember the David Westerfield case, out in California several years ago? This man snuck into one of the neighbor's houses in the middle of the night and took a little girl out of the house, with the family there, asleep. He watched the house, saw the comings and goings, and he BELONGED in the neighborhood. So a new wrinkle on the KT case for me is to suppose that a person in the neighborhood was observing the JG house, saw the comings and goings, and because he might be identified by KT, he had to deliver a near fatal blow to the skull. If he could NOT be identified, if she did not know him, there would have been no reason to hit her in that manner.:bang:

 

[Just the Fax]

I am wondering if the police are still in the neighborhood 24/7 like they were a few weeks ago? Does anyone know what time of day this break-in occurred? Does seem very strange indeed. Almost makes me think someone is trying to divert attention....

Wednesday AM, 3-24-10

http://www.newsobserver.com/2010/03...samples.html?storylink=misearch#ixzz0jgaMmMlj

 

[susubaby]

Laces- I do remember the Westerfield case. This case could potientially be the same sort of thing. In the Westerfield case, if I remember correctly, the whole family was home and sleeping while he snuck in and took the child from her home. The sister in the home has been throwing me for a loop in this whole thing, but maybe if the killer hit KT first so she couldn't scream or cry out for help, maybe the sister didn't hear anything. It is possible. And, maybe the police have their eye on someone in the neighborhood. According to rumors, KT was back and forth to the house for many years. I have also heard that JG had just recently had his kitchen remodeled and there were many people in and out of his house during that process. Who knows. Maybe it was someone working on the house. I have heard that he was in FL for an extended period of time, so maybe KT was helping move the renovation along while he was gone, and someone took a strange liking to her....

 

[Just the Fax]

Laces- I do remember the Westerfield case. This case could potientially be the same sort of thing. In the Westerfield case, if I remember correctly, the whole family was home and sleeping while he snuck in and took the child from her home. The sister in the home has been throwing me for a loop in this whole thing, but maybe if the killer hit KT first so she couldn't scream or cry out for help, maybe the sister didn't hear anything. It is possible. And, maybe the police have their eye on someone in the neighborhood. According to rumors, KT was back and forth to the house for many years. I have also heard that JG had just recently had his kitchen remodeled and there were many people in and out of his house during that process. Who knows. Maybe it was someone working on the house. I have heard that he was in FL for an extended period of time, so maybe KT was helping move the renovation along while he was gone, and someone took a strange liking to her....

If Kathy was alone in the house, this entire drama would have unfolded much differently. IMO, the cops would have quickly said this was a random crime.

 

[ladyofthelake]

What is going on? These robbers are very brave. Why aren't the police checking the woods between Wayland and Chartier. I can not believe that the neighbors did not hear the breaking glass. As a mother,you sleep lightly when you have children. My dog hears all that stirs in the night This is crazy..

 

[laces]

Yes, I agree, it IS crazy. Like i said, there's a big German Shepherd a few doors down. He would have eaten my car if he could have. Didn't know about renovations to the house...so, there had been a lot of activity there....Sure wish Sherlock Holmes was here for this one.

 

[Prancy]

"Despite the police presence, Joe Andrews said his home was broken into Wednesday morning. The thieves used a brick from his backyard to smash the windows of two rear doors, then tracked mud across the carpet while stealing a 47-inch flat-screen television and his daughter's laptop computer, her iPod and her wallet, Andrews said.

Read more: http://www.newsobserver.com/2010/03...samples.html?storylink=misearch#ixzz0jgaMmMlj

Doesn't this seem kind of wierd? Why would someone break into a home right across the street, with the police there? This sounds crazy.

I simply do not believe this man's story. I hope LE finds the story just as odd and really takes a close look at his allegations. The statements he made don't ring true to me. If you really want one person's DNA and don't have enough for a warrant, you might say you are routinely asking for many people in the neighborhood. This man says they picked up a brick from outside his house. I wonder if that is in anyway related to the killer picking up something prior to entering the Geil house or was a brick used to kill KT? Sometimes there is a little truth behind the lies. (I'm not accusing this person. I don't know him or anything about him. Just saying.)

If it was an outside person, did they take a weapon with them or was it something they picked up in the house or just outside the house like a brick?

IMO if you don't live in the neighborhood, the only way to fit in during the DAY time is if you are doing landscaping, cleaning gutters, power washing, remodeling, utility repair, etc. We have lots of those on my street almost daily and it makes me very nervous, expecially when they see me coming and going. They know your schedule. However, moving a 48 inch tv from the house after breaking glass windows is just hard to imagine, because often these yard and remodeling workers are out and about and they would notice that kind of commotion going on.

How long will it take them to compare these DNA samples they just took?

 

[Just the Fax]

This is pretty cool.
Shows all types of reported crimes for specific date ranges.
Zoom in the map and the 'icons' will pop up the details.

http://www.wral.com/news/local/page/5546229/

27XX Cartier Dr...11:48AM Injured person 3-6-10

26XX Cartier Dr....11:08AM Burglary 3-24-10

The one on Wayland does not show.
I guess that is because it was not called in.
The cops were notified directly

 

[Noway]

I can't imagine a burglar so brash and stupid he would break into a house while police roamed the neighborhood.

How could he/she be sure that LE would not be coming to the door or searching the yard?

I'm not accusing Mr. A. either but I think his story stinks.

 

[susubaby]

Agreed. It does sound quite fishy. Who knows what will come out eventually. But the stuff that comes out, the more it makes me wonder. It is sounding more and more like maybe someone in the neighborhood. I would be very, very interested in knowing how many other neighbors were asked for random samples of DNA over the past couple of days. I would like to know HOW a burglar actually took the 47 inch TV out of the home at 11:08 in the AM without being seen or noticed? That neighborhood is always filled with people walking, running, playing outside...it just doesn't make sense. This is a very strange case indeed.

 

[Noway]

Is there any entrance to that house (Mr. A.'s) that would not be seen from the street? Or would a van/truck have to be parked on Cartier so that it could be hauled away?

LOL ... I'm just picturing someone coming out of the house with a 47-inch TV under their jacket. Nothing to see here.

I wasn't sure how much a TV like that would weigh but I found this info. Maybe the burglars are dressing like electronic company (like Best Buy) employees.

 

[cluciano63]

i know this is not relevant to this case but last month my sister's house was broken into between 10am-3pm and their big screen was only thing taken and it was upstairs in their house...can't figure out how they got it out of there...door was bashed in as well, the front door-and no one saw a thing of course...

 

[ferry]

Not sure if this has been posted or not!



http://wake.mync.com/site/wake/news/story/50080/board-meets-for-first-time-after-tafts-death

 

[ferry]

This, too


Taft Remembered By Board
Written by Gurnal Scott
(RALEIGH) – The State Board of Education met Wednesday for the first time since Board member Kathy Taft was killed in a Raleigh residence. State Board Chairman Dr. Bill Harrison said a few words acknowledging Kathy Taft's now empty place at the table.

Harrison said she would want this body to continue their work to support and educate the children in North Carolina's schools as they have been. After his remarks he requested a moment of silence among those in the room and the board members to reflect on Kathy Taft's 15 years of service. The investigation is continuing to find whoever is responsible for Taft's death.

 

[diphi]

I deleted my previous post because I think I was discussing the wrong houses.

Looking on a map it appears Mr. A's house is about 500' away from JG's house. It is not really very close to JG's house but is much closer toward Oberlin.

I was thinking the house that was broken into was right across the street from JG's house. Apparently, that's not so.

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=2710+cartier+dr+raleigh+nc&daddr=2607+cartier+dr+raleigh+nc&hl=en&geocode=&mra=ls&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=39.099308,101.425781&ie=UTF8&ll=35.81432,-78.66092&spn=0.004898,0.012381&z=17

 

[ruben321]

This is pretty cool.
Shows all types of reported crimes for specific date ranges.
Zoom in the map and the 'icons' will pop up the details.

http://www.wral.com/news/local/page/5546229/

27XX Cartier Dr...11:48AM Injured person 3-6-10

26XX Cartier Dr....11:08AM Burglary 3-24-10

The one on Wayland does not show.
I guess that is because it was not called in.
The cops were notified directly

Okay.....talk it out. The above referenced info is from 911 calls made or where? If you look at the site the info about KT is listed as "other". Because when the first 911 call was made it was said complications from surgery. Also, note the time of 11:48am....D referenced meetin k for breakfast or went to wake K for breakfast. 11:48am....hmm....that's lunch time!
Wha cha think?

 

[susubaby]

Ruben- Where have you been? Have missed your challenging insights! Again, getting back to D, her story has so many holes in it from the outside looking in, it all seems so strange. Why would KT want to go out for breakfast, albeit at lunchtime, after some sort of facial surgery? Even if she could take her bandages off, wouldn't she be bruised up? And, who doesn't check on someone they are supposed to be taking care of after surgery until almost noon???? That seems very strange to me? Wouldn't she at least check on her to see if she needed some ice or meds? Or at least see why she was sleeping so late? Have you been hearing anything around town about theories as of late Ruben?

 

[diphi]

Okay.....talk it out. The above referenced info is from 911 calls made or where? If you look at the site the info about KT is listed as "other". Because when the first 911 call was made it was said complications from surgery. Also, note the time of 11:48am....D referenced meetin k for breakfast or went to wake K for breakfast. 11:48am....hmm....that's lunch time!
Wha cha think?

"The crime maps displayed on WRAL.com are provided by SpotCrime.com. SpotCrime.com processes crime incident data from a variety of sources, including police and sheriff's departments, media feeds and citizens. The data is then plotted on Google Maps based on locations provided in crime reports."

http://www.wral.com/news/story/5588313/

The 11:48 call is listed as "other" but if one drills down to the details it says "injured." Yes, the timing is certainly baffling. Do you have any light to shed on that - why didn't she check on KT earlier?

 

[ruben321]

Ruben- Where have you been? Have missed your challenging insights! Again, getting back to D, her story has so many holes in it from the outside looking in, it all seems so strange. Why would KT want to go out for breakfast, albeit at lunchtime, after some sort of facial surgery? Even if she could take her bandages off, wouldn't she be bruised up? And, who doesn't check on someone they are supposed to be taking care of after surgery until almost noon???? That seems very strange to me? Wouldn't she at least check on her to see if she needed some ice or meds? Or at least see why she was sleeping so late? Have you been hearing anything around town about theories as of late Ruben?

Oh, I'm here. Just observing & absorbing all the post. Chatter from the inner circle hasn't changed. ***K would NOT have gone out to eat breakfast, brunch, lunch, dinner or for anything else the day after her surgery. Althought she was in the "public", she was very private about her personal life and any "improvements" she had done.

 

[diphi]

ruben-

What is thought of the dna samples being taken? Considering that, any thoughts that it could be someone other than D? Why does the rape rumor persist?