GUILTY NC - Kathy Taft, 62, Raleigh, 6 March 2010 - #6

  • #761
WTF?!?!?! I didn't know about that, either. Which testimony is that in?

It's in Dr. Hillkey's testimony. He is discussing what JW told him. This is all pretty interesting to me. I thought that doctors couldn't talk about what clients told them in their sessions....of course this is different.
 
  • #762
  • #763
It's in Dr. Hillkey's testimony. He is discussing what JW told him. This is all pretty interesting to me. I thought that doctors couldn't talk about what clients told them in their sessions....of course this is different.


This doctor, and a couple of others were hired by the DT to interview/examine him for the trial -- I feel sure that this kind of interview and what will be done with it is fully disclosed to certainly JW and who- whatever else is required.
 
  • #764
I want to know how long he was in that house? He was exploring to find disinfectant, get a snack from the kitchen, and DH was so out-of-it she didn't hear all of it except for some footsteps she couldn't pinpoint and some random noises?

It really was like the perfect storm with an unsecure house (easily broken into), one woman incapacitated due to surgery and pain meds, and the other out of it and senses dulled from a longtime alcohol problem. In terms of 'luck,' JW had it on his side that night.

Imagine if he had instead broken into a house where there was an armed homeowner who took him down with a couple shots. If only.

Let's hope this deviant's luck has run out in a big LWOP way....

Yes, Mad74, was he in there 2--3 minutes, or 10--15? Another one we'll never know. And if he really did go from the bedroom to the kitchen, and if DH was asleep on the sofa, did he just not see her? And she really must have been knocked-out by her meds (or something) -- early on she had said she'd taken some sinus (was it?) med that "really knocks me out." I am still mystified by what DH said about hearing something while she was "in and out" on the sofa, but she could have heard him running up the outside stairs -- and if he did take the stairs, certainly he ran.

Buried the socks by the creek -- the one that runs through that whole neighborhood... Truth and consequences...
 
  • #765
going back to watch yesterday's videos. didn't know about the socks, or that he buried them...didn't know about the disinfectant. kind of changes things, doesn't it? You're crazed from childhood, supercrazed from drugs and alcohol, but you remember to put socks on your hands? Sorry. And remember, he took time for a snack in the kitchen. I'm glad he's done with his "career". The scary thought is that there are others out there just like him, and we will see other families torn and broken forever from similar actions. Why were we made with free will? I have no answers.
Finding the disinfectant and applying it to Miss Taft's vaginal area is in the testimony from Dr. Hilkey, per his session with Jason, after the crime. I have a long-held theory that Jason had been in the Cartier house before the night he raped and murdered KT. He seemed to have known exactly where that disinfectant was and found it without making so much noise that he woke up her sister. I think he knew every inch of that house, in fact, as it was often empty. I believe Jason squatted there often, drinking and hiding from Jessica.
From the Cartier house, if you walk along the street, it's a quarter mile from where he lived. If you walk along the creek bed, it's an even shorter distance and much more camouflaged. When he came home that night, Jessica said she heard him in the back yard, which would mean he came home via that creek bed, where he said he buried those socks.
I live 30 feet from the apartment Jason and Jessica shared. Unfortunately for him, I work at home. I'm a night bird and I smoke out on my back porch in the wee hours of the night. I also have an old hound dog who hears, smells and barks at anything that comes into her space. I heard noises back in that creek bed after this happened and before Jason was arrested. I've never heard that much noise out there since he got arrested. I fully believe he was out there, messing around. What the hell he was doing, I'm not sure of but I'm sure, between me and the dog, we scared him off from trying to break into our place.
 
  • #766
While all of this was going on, I was interviewed by Detective Dexter Gill. When he knocked on the door, my dog, Chloe, barked at him and sniffed him up and down. We invited him in and after he got done asking me questions, I had plenty of questions for him, most of which he couldn't answer. I remember saying to him, "This is freaking me out. Should I be scared?" He said, "You have every reason to be scared. This dog is your best defense. We're keeping a close watch on this neighborhood but you should absolutely make sure your doors and windows are locked at all times. If your dog acts up, if hear or see anything, call us immediately." A while later, I noticed an unfamiliar SUV in my parking lot. I took down the license plate. Turns out, that was the detective who picked up Jason's cigarette butt. A few days later, Jason was arrested.
I had been out to dinner with my roommate and as we drove up Wayland, we could tell something was up. At the time, it wasn't at all unusual to see news crews or police cruisers on this street but this was clearly different. No less than 6-8 news trucks and 15+ cruisers were parked along the street. As I approached my apartment, I saw the crime scene tape across the entrance to my parking lot. I was terrified that something had happened to Jessica or my other female neighbor. I hopped out of the car and ran up to the officer guarding the entrance to the lot. I demanded to know what had happened but before he'd tell me anything, he asked me to show my ID so he knew I lived here. He then said, "Nobody here has been hurt but I can't give you any further details." At that point, one of the reporters yelled out, "There's been an arrest!" I looked at the officer and since I knew it wasn't the guy in Apt C, I simply asked, "A or D?" The guy who lived in A was an elderly, retired professor so I'm not sure why I even asked that question. I was completely shocked, I guess. The officer put down his head and said, "D." At that point, I realized Jason had been arrested and, of course, I knew he'd been arrested for the crime that had happened to Kathy Taft, just down the street six weeks earlier.
The officer told me I could go into my house but requested I not go into my back yard, and wait inside until detectives came over to ask some questions. I didn't go into the back yard but I did walk out on my back porch, where I saw many detectives with dogs, and more crime scene tape. Shortly afterward, two detectives were here and questioned me and my roommate, in separate parts of the house. I honestly don't remember what all he asked me. I do remember asking him about the SUV I'd seen, which he said was a surveillance unit. I also asked him if they were sure they had the right guy. He said, "Yes, we're 100% sure." I walked out front with them as they were leaving when I saw Detective Gill. My dog, Chloe, went with me. Gill remembered her from before and gave her a good rub on the ears. I looked at him and shook my head. No words were exchanged. He just looked back at me, as if to say, "I've seen this look of terror, shock and confusion too many times."
The police were here all night and into the next day. Listen, I'm not some crazy pet person but I do love my dog. I feel like she was a big deterrent and kept us safe from Jason. I think the detectives in this case would totally agree.
 
  • #767
Listen, I'm not some crazy pet person but I do love my dog. I feel like she was a big deterrent and kept us safe from Jason. I think the detectives in this case would totally agree.

I had a dog (RIP) with the same name as yours and I totally believe your dog was a deterrent! Their hearing, their bark, all tools which alert. Plus lots of people are afraid of being attacked by a dog so all other things being equal, they'll choose a residence without a dog.
 
  • #768
First of all, thanks to no1uknow (bbm) for sharing thoughts from being a neighbor -- something that very few other peeps could do! And yes, our dogs take up our time when we don't think we have it, cost us money, and they are a big responsibility -- if we treat them as we should -- but as we all know, they return their thanks in ways that no human, cat, goldfish, ferret (ack!), or horse could ever do. Our lab sounded like a man-eater whenever someone came onto our property or knocked at the door, and she was even more fierce-sounding when my DH was out of town, may she RIP.


Turning the page, here are a couple of N&O reports on recent court testimony:

Psychologist says Williford wept after slaying

Saturday, May 26, 2012 at 12:00 AM Jason Williford felt “horrified” by his crime, a psychologist testifies in the murder case in the March 2010 killing of Kathy Taft.
News
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Williford “in pharmacological trouble” on night Taft died, doctor testifies

Friday, May 25, 2012 at 12:00 AM
A Duke University professor who specializes in the brain testified that Jason Williford was reeling from alcohol and drugs that stimulated his sexual addiction.
 
  • #769
Thank you for Borndem for all those great links, and many thanks also to
no1uknow for sharing, about the neighborhood and your prized pet. I also have a wonderful family member-dog who although he is getting old, carries out great surveillance for me and I rely on him heavily. He is right beside me on the couch as I write this, snoring away...LOL. But let someone walk by the house, or a car come close, and he lets me know it! I also agree that JW was probably in the house before, and scarily enough, probably in several of the neighborhood houses. :cowcouch:
 
  • #770
Another thing I have been wondering about. I don't recall hearing about the presence of "disinfectant" before this. This could account for 'some' of the inflammation of the area. I am sure that by the time the autopsy was done, all traces would have been washed away the the hospital staff. That would have been quite painful to an already irritated area. :twocents: Sorry, but I just can't help thinking like a nurse.
 
  • #771
The story about disinfectant is one that Hilkey relayed during his testimony as told to him by JW. That doesn't mean it's true. JW also claims he "laid down on his kitchen floor and wept" upon arriving home because he was so upset at what he'd just done. I don't believe that one.

When it comes to JW, he has no credibility to me, so unless it's corroborated with evidence or a witness, I'll remain skeptical.
 
  • #772
Thank you no1 for your insider info. I am so glad you are okay. I can't imagine how shaken up you must be!!

I think it's ironic that when I watch the video on wral there is an ad for Mellow Mushroom.

To me, the fact that JW supposedly used a security sign to break in proves he'd been there before b/c he clearly knew that the security system wasn't activated.

Am I correct that no one who has relayed JW's side of what happened mentions the sister?? Did he hear her call out or notice her turning on the outside flood lights? Also, how did he see KT if the house was dark? After listening again to Dr. Hilkey, he says that JW say her. I thought this trial would be so much different b/c we know so many answers, but I am still haunted by lots of ?s.
 
  • #773
I haven't followed the trial as closely as I hoped (year end stuff at work). Did LE find the socks?
 
  • #774
Another thing I have been wondering about. I don't recall hearing about the presence of "disinfectant" before this. This could account for 'some' of the inflammation of the area. I am sure that by the time the autopsy was done, all traces would have been washed away the the hospital staff. That would have been quite painful to an already irritated area. :twocents: Sorry, but I just can't help thinking like a nurse.

Sadly, I don't think it would have mattered, laces.
 
  • #775
I had a dog (RIP) with the same name as yours and I totally believe your dog was a deterrent! Their hearing, their bark, all tools which alert. Plus lots of people are afraid of being attacked by a dog so all other things being equal, they'll choose a residence without a dog.

Don't want to de-rail the thread, but dogs are the best protection! And they don't have to be big ones. I've got a little yappy-yap dog who lets me know whenever her world changes in any way. I'm ok with it, mostly. But, late at night when she starts barking (a very rare event, indeed), my hair definitely stands on end and I become acutely aware of whats going on...I seriously pay attention to her!

imo
 
  • #776
Mine really wasn't protection (friendly golden retriever) but she did have a decent bark and good hearing. And even if that's all a dog can do, it's better than human ears. Now I just have a cat and ... well.... yeah, she's cute but otherwise useless.

A friend had a 220 lb great dane. They never had to lock their doors with him around (except at night they did lock them). No one would ever approach their house. His bark would raise the roof! He was a big baby, but you wouldn't know that. (RIP to him too. He was magnificent).
 
  • #777
Another thing I have been wondering about. I don't recall hearing about the presence of "disinfectant" before this. This could account for 'some' of the inflammation of the area. I am sure that by the time the autopsy was done, all traces would have been washed away the the hospital staff. That would have been quite painful to an already irritated area. :twocents: Sorry, but I just can't help thinking like a nurse.

Whatever effect the disinfectant had, it wasn't sufficient to kill the DNA he left on that poor lady's body. I had not known about that until I heard Dr. Hilkey testify about it. It sickens me that he was so flippant as to spray Lysol (or something similar) on his victim, in an attempt to cover his tracks. What a cull! Even a rube like me would know spraying disinfectant on a rape victim wouldn't clear her body of your DNA.
Furthermore, his defense team keeps talking about how smart and talented Jason is. I met him several times. He isn't an idiot but he certainly doesn't seem to be terribly intelligent. I also take offense to the idea that he is some sort of musical genius. I heard Jason and his buddies playing all the time, because they were loud and completely disrespectful of the fact he has neighbors, most often late into the night on a weekday. I thought, "How is it possible that they keep playing but somehow keep getting worse?" I'm a professional musician. I perform internationally, teach and record for a living. Jason was an unemployed local, amateur musician, at best. This isn't just my opinion, it's a fact: he sucks. He had a bumper sticker on his car for "The Authority." I looked it up, way before he was arrested. He was the bass player in this band. Terrible, mindless tripe. This is "genius?" My 13-year-old niece could and has done better. Check it out for yourselves:
http://www.myspace.com/theauthorityrocks
 
  • #778
I haven't followed the trial as closely as I hoped (year end stuff at work). Did LE find the socks?
No. And they never found Kathy's underwear, either. The creek bed back here is extremely densely-wooded and difficult to navigate. It's not just a creek but a run-off. The cops had dogs back there but I didn't see any dogs around where we live until after Jason was arrested, which was about 6 weeks after he attacked her. I figure, by then, whatever he left had probably been washed away forever. As far as I know, the dogs/cops never found anything in these woods.
 
  • #779
The story about disinfectant is one that Hilkey relayed during his testimony as told to him by JW. That doesn't mean it's true. JW also claims he "laid down on his kitchen floor and wept" upon arriving home because he was so upset at what he'd just done. I don't believe that one.

When it comes to JW, he has no credibility to me, so unless it's corroborated with evidence or a witness, I'll remain skeptical.

Whatever Jason remembers of that night, I wouldn't trust him to tell the truth about, so I totally agree with you on that, Madeleine. What is corroborated by Jessica's testimony is that if he did lay down and weep on his kitchen floor, he didn't do it for long. She heard him enter the house through the upstairs door (which is where the kitchen is) and shortly afterwards, he came downstairs to get into bed. As for the disinfectant and socks, I don't know how telling anyone about that would go to his favor. This information came out in cross-examination by the prosecution, as written down by a third party. Jason is a liar, for sure. Who knows what lies he's told. Maybe he presumed some sort of doctor-client privilege? Keep in mind, Jason apparently didn't think he would ever be arrested because he refused to give his DNA to the police. He didn't attempt to flee and when he finally did get arrested, he looked to Detective Morse and said, "Seriously? How can this be?" He thought he was going to get away with it. I think during his interviews with doctors since he was arrested, he still felt like he had some sort of rights to privacy as long as the docs were hired for his defense team. I believe it has only recently dawned upon him that he may very well die for what he did and if he isn't executed, he'll spend the rest of his life in prison for it. Like I said before, Jason never struck me as an idiot but at the same time, not terribly bright, either. We'll probably never really know what all he is lying about and in the end, it doesn't much matter. What matters is that we know he raped and killed Kathy Taft for no reason. Being a screwed up, lying, drunk/addict is not a reason. It's just an excuse and not a very good one, if you ask me.
 
  • #780
Let's hope this deviant's luck has run out in a big LWOP way....

Yes, Mad74, was he in there 2--3 minutes, or 10--15? Another one we'll never know. And if he really did go from the bedroom to the kitchen, and if DH was asleep on the sofa, did he just not see her? And she really must have been knocked-out by her meds (or something) -- early on she had said she'd taken some sinus (was it?) med that "really knocks me out." I am still mystified by what DH said about hearing something while she was "in and out" on the sofa, but she could have heard him running up the outside stairs -- and if he did take the stairs, certainly he ran.

Buried the socks by the creek -- the one that runs through that whole neighborhood... Truth and consequences...

To me, it's pretty clear that the sister was completely knocked out by her meds and probably a mixture of meds and alcohol. Whatever her issues, none of what happened that night is any more her fault than it is yours or mine.
Jason said he broke in, went upstairs and thought it smelled like someone had taken a shower. It freaked him out so he ran downstairs. Now, I've never broken into a house but I'm sure that if I ever had, I wouldn't know what any particular part of the house smelled like normally unless I'd been there before. I think he'd been in that house many times and that scent set him off as being unusual.
In any case, he wasn't so freaked out that he left the house immediately. He came back downstairs and found Miss Taft. After he did what he did to her, he supposedly spent some time in the kitchen, found some disinfectant and went back to her body to try to cover up. I don't think he'd have been able to do any of that if he didn't have prior knowledge of the layout of that house, since it was reportedly very, very dark in there. My job requires me to travel a lot. I often wake up in places I am completely unfamiliar with. Stone sober, I couldn't have done all of what Jason did that night without turning on all the lights in the house, rifling around, making a LOT of noise.
Jason's defense, in my opinion, is a bunch of nonsense. I think he had been in that house many times before and when he found KT there, he saw an opportunity to a terrible thing he'd long had on his mind. We know from his own wife's testimony, that terrible thing was still on his mind weeks later. I hope this jury thinks about all the evidence and testimony and puts the pieces together.
 

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