NC NC - Kyle Fleischmann, 24, Charlotte, 9 Nov 2007 - #1

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After watching and analyzing this video, I can believe that Kyle was targeted by at least three individuals, and possibly four individuals. I can see a scenario where "white vest girl" was the bait, and "tee-shirt man", and "long-sleeve shirt man" were the accomplices. The girl who was with the three as they entered the bar from the red-hue pictures could also have been the bait. "Tee-shirt man" seems to be taken aback by whatever it is that "white-vest girl" says as she exits the bar. If so, maybe he will have a conscience and come forward with what he knows. If these are local people, they need to come forward with any information they have. Otherwise, it makes them look guilty of something, and the pictures are good enough for them to eventually be identified. It is only a matter of time.
 
I think the guy in the gray hooded sweatshirt is checking IDs outside the door and in the 15 second frame the white vest girl is putting her ID away.

You may be right IdahoMom. In fact, if you look at the 12 second frame, it looks like "white vest girl" is showing something to the male member of the trio that walks away when everyone else enters the building. Maybe HE was checking ID's, and it was time for his shift to end, so the gray -sweat shirt guy is comiong out to take over??? If so, then both of those guys would be valuable because they would be employee's of the club.
 
So maybe, the blonde girl who was outside in the red-hue pictures came in with "white vest girl", and they were together. Maybe these two girls were supposed to meet up with their boyfriends inside....perhaps "tee-shirt man" and "long-sleeve shirt man". Maybe "tee-shirt man" was shocked when white-vest girl told him that his girlfriend was staying behind, or had already left with Kyle???? Just throwing ideas around. These people have to be found and questioned!!!
 
This video has more footage of people leaving around the time Kyle left:

http://charlottenc.granicus.com/MediaPlayer.php?publish_id=116

and here is a video with Kyle actually leaving:

http://news14.com/content/headlines/590474/cmpd-releases-fleischmann-tape/Default.aspx


Wow, you have been busy today! Good, good work! It does make you wonder if there was some kind of cynical operation underway that night. I can only hope for Kyle's family that someone, someway will talk...and the sooner, the better.

p.s. I am so impressed with all the footage you provided, with the text!!! I hope LE checks WS. :)
 
You may be right IdahoMom. In fact, if you look at the 12 second frame, it looks like "white vest girl" is showing something to the male member of the trio that walks away when everyone else enters the building. Maybe HE was checking ID's, and it was time for his shift to end, so the gray -sweat shirt guy is comiong out to take over??? If so, then both of those guys would be valuable because they would be employee's of the club.


I'm thinking the same thing. Good job on posting all those links to the frames. That had to have taken a long time and thanks for doing it!
 
So maybe, the blonde girl who was outside in the red-hue pictures came in with "white vest girl", and they were together. Maybe these two girls were supposed to meet up with their boyfriends inside....perhaps "tee-shirt man" and "long-sleeve shirt man". Maybe "tee-shirt man" was shocked when white-vest girl told him that his girlfriend was staying behind, or had already left with Kyle???? Just throwing ideas around. These people have to be found and questioned!!!

So we have Kyle leaving video, non-Kyle video (with white vest girl and tee-shirt man) and a video of dad watching Kyle video where he points out a dark-shirted Kyle leaving and veering to the left. Why does LE want us to associate Kyle with the white vest girl group? Kyle seems to be leaving alone at a moderate clip, while white vest and friends are lingering. They are not seen together in released video. Since hoodie was there around the time of white vest, should we be thinking this was earlier, when there was ID check at the door, and Kyle left later, when fewer were coming in and posted ID check was not needed as hoodie wasn't there?

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I was thinking that it is only a time issue. They know that Kyle left at approx 0219, perhaps this other group is only a minute or two ahead or behind Kyle's exit. They all seem to be at the same door, though.
I agree, Kyle seemed to be leaving at a moderate clip, he was walking with intent.
 
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