NC NC - Leland, Hooper & Mount Misery Rds, BlkFem 13-56, Snoopy Watch, clothes, Dec'79

[Gardener1850]

[h=1]UNSOLVED: Woman found in Brunswick Co. in 1979 remains unidentified[/h]

Jane Doe 1979 was found on December 8, 1979 in some woods near what is now the intersection of Hooper Road and Mount Misery Road.

“She was found by hunters actually the sons of hunters,” Mary Doncourt said. “The boy who actually found her was only 13.”

Mary Doncourt, a civilian investigative specialist with the Brunswick County Sheriff’s Office, said the coroner believed the woman was about 20 years old at the time.

“He believed she’d been dead for several weeks at the time she was found,” Doncourt said.

Doncourt said they were never able to determine her cause of death, but in 2015, new technology helped detectives draw sketches.

“We found out that Jane actually could have been older,” Doncourt said. “We found these two really amazing forensic anthropologists at NC State, Dr. Ann Ross and Dr. Chelsey Juarez. Dr. Ross does osteological studies. What she found is that Jane was probably between 42 and 55.”

Doncourt said that also led to new sketches.

Then, Juarez did an isotopic study on the woman’s diet revealing something even more interesting about the woman who still did not have an identity.

“She told us basically Jane was not from North Carolina, had not lived here long enough to have picked up the isotopes, so we don’t know if she had been here a day a week,” Doncourt said.

Where could she have been from?

“There are several states where these isotopes exist and where she may have lived and that includes the mid West, Wisconsin, Michigan, West Virginia, Pennsylvania, New York, California,” Doncourt said.

“On her left wrist, was a snoopy watch,” Doncourt said. “That is the only thing that was kind of abnormally to who she was and what was going on.”

https://www.wwaytv3.com/2017/11/06/...in-brunswick-co-in-1979-remains-unidentified/

*BBM, age range in title is based on the NaMus profile: https://www.identifyus.org/en/cases/1746

Other info from NaMus:

(Similar image of the Timex watch associated with the decedent's remains.)
Height: 64 inches
Weight: Cannot be estimated
Probable year of death: 1979
Est. Postmortem Interval: 3 weeks
Head Hair: short to medium length, black & kinky
Clothing found on body: bra, short sleeved dark shirt, tan sweater, white panties w/blue trim, black slacks or pajama pants, over the knee stockings, red scuffs (footies)
Yellow band "Snoopy" watch

Rule outs:
Diane Hollins 1947 Florida
Ila Maynard 1957 North Carolina
Willie Rucker 1951 Iowa

 

[aThousandYearsWide]

Unidentified Black Female
Date of Discovery: December 8, 1979
Location of Discovery: Leland, Brunswick County, North Carolina
Estimated Date of Death: 3 weeks prior
State of Remains: Not recognizable - Decomposing/putrefaction
Cause of Death: Unknown

Physical Description
Estimated Age: 13-56 years old
Race: Black
Gender: Female
Height: 5'4"
Weight: Unknown
Hair Color: Black, kinky, short to medium length.
Eye Color: Unknown
Distinguishing Marks/Features: Unknown

Identifiers
Dentals: Available. Teeth numbers 1, 16, 17, and 32 are unerupted and still in the follicular stage of development.
Fingerprints: Not available.
DNA: mtDNA and nucDNA available at UNT (ref #11-1876).

Clothing & Personal Items
Clothing: Bra, dark short sleeved shirt, tan sweater, panties, black slacks or pajama pants, and half stockings and red scuffs (footies).
Jewelry: Gold Snoopy watch with a yellow band on her left wrist.
Additional Personal Items: Unknown

Circumstances of Discovery
The victim's remains were found by hunters in a wooded area about 2,000 feet near what is now Hooper Road, near the Hooper Hill section of Leland.

Investigating Agency(s)
Agency Name: North Carolina Office of the Chief Medical Examiner
Agency Contact Person: Clyde Gibbs
Agency Phone Number: 800-672-7042
E-Mail
Agency Case Number: 79-869
NCIC Case Number: Unknown
NamUs Case Number: 1746

Doe Network: http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/957ufnc.html
NamUs: https://identifyus.org/en/cases/full_report/1746

Isotope Analysis determined that she did not originate from North Carolina and had not resided in North Carolina for the last five years of her life. The results show she may have spent significant time in regions of:
West Virginia, Pennsylvania, New York, and California as well as Midwestern regions in
Northern Wisconsin and Michigan. Source: https://identifyus.org/en/cases/full_report/1746

What concerns me is her age range is pretty broad. 13- 56 years old and her time of death was only 3 weeks prior to being found. The Snoopy watch makes me think she's on the younger sided. I'm going to look at runaway cases from 1979 in WV, PA, CA, NY, MI, and WI.

Another thing I noticed is she wasn't the only one to be found off Hooper rd. In 2015, an 18 year old that had been missing since 2011 was found on the same road. source: http://www.wect.com/story/30606153/alquon-flowers-body-identified

 

[Nate_Bro]

She fits the visual and circumstantial descriptions of Angela Elaine Allen, but she supposedly went missing 2 weeks after the Jane Doe was found. There may be either a transcription error or a possible conspiracy with her given date of disappearance.
Missing Person Case
https://www.namus.gov/UnidentifiedPersons/Case#/1746

 

[aThousandYearsWide]

She fits the visual and circumstantial descriptions of Angela Elaine Allen, but she supposedly went missing 2 weeks after the Jane Doe was found. There may be either a transcription error or a possible conspiracy with her given date of disappearance.
Missing Person Case
https://www.namus.gov/UnidentifiedPersons/Case#/1746

The recon looks like it was done of Angela! Cheek bones and eyes are very similar!

The NamUs link posted came up as Edelmerio Becerra's profile.

 

[aThousandYearsWide]

Here's Angela Allen's Charley project profile:

• Missing Since 12/26/1979
• Missing From Syracuse, New York
• Classification Endangered Missing
• Date of Birth 09/01/1951 (67)
• Age 28 years old
• Height and Weight 5'5, 135 pounds
• Clothing/Jewelry Description A gray coat, a purple dress and red shoes. Carrying a red clutch purse.
• Distinguishing Characteristics African-American female. Black hair, brown eyes. Allen's ears are pierced.

Details of Disappearance
Angela was last seen in the 3500 block of south Salina Street Syracuse, New York at 2:10 p.m. on December 26, 1979. She spoke to her mother briefly over the telephone that morning, but said she was too sleepy to talk and would call her back later. Angela's mother says her daughter sounded normal during their conversation. She has never been heard from again and authorities don't believe she left of her own accord.

Angela left behind her last paycheck. Her husband, Hubert James "Mad Dog" Allen, attempted to pick it up after her disappearance. He's the prime suspect in her case; authorities believe he killed her on the day of her disappearance and disposed of her body. Possible burial sites include Onondaga Indian Nation territory, or the Allied Chemical salt pits in the northern part of the county. Hubert and Angela used to go on dates to both sites.

In October 1985, Hubert was convicted of the murder of his girlfriend, Lorraine Marshall, and their six-year-old son, James Jose Allen. Marshall was found stabbed to death in her apartment in March 1985; James's strangled corpse was found washed up on the shore of Onondaga Lake several weeks later.

Marshall had been seeing Hubert at the time of Angela's disappearance. She refused to cooperate with authorities about Angela's case until 1982, when she began making statements to investigators. Marshall stated that, in December 1979, Hubert had told her he accidentally killed Angela and asked for her assistance in hiding the body. Then he passed the story off as a joke. Marshall said she noticed that his boots were caked with mud after Allen's disappearance.

Authorities believe Hubert killed Marshall and their son because of her cooperation with the police about Allen's disappearance. He was sentenced to fifty years to life in prison for the murders and will not be eligible for parole until 2035; he will be ninety-two years old by then. He has never been charged in connection Allen's case. Hubert says Allen simply left him without warning one day and he does not know her whereabouts. He also said she took $11,000 in cash from their home when she disappeared, and he did not believe she was dead.

Angela was employed by the department store J.C. Penney at the time of her disappearance. Her mother attempted to have her declared legally dead in 1990, but she was declared legally missing instead. Her estate, including a $10,000 life insurance policy, was distributed to her two daughters.
Angela Elaine Allen – The Charley Project

 

[aThousandYearsWide]

Barbara Jean Baldwin hasn't been seen since the summer of 1978. Fayetteville isn't far from Leland, NC. Just over an hour or so.

Barbara Jean Baldwin – The Charley Project

• Missing Since 07/01/1978
• Missing From Fayetteville, North Carolina
• Classification Missing
• Age 29 years old
• Height and Weight 5'2 (Jane Doe is estimated 5'4), 150 pounds
• Clothing/Jewelry Description A white top, blue and white capri pants and white sandals.
• Distinguishing Characteristics African-American female. Black hair, brown eyes. Baldwin has pierced ears.

Details of Disappearance
Baldwin was last seen in Fayetteville, North Carolina sometime in the early summer of 1978. She has never been heard from again. Few details are available in her case.

 

[theshadow45]

Leland Jane Doe has been unidentified for 40 years today.

 

[MadMcGoo]

Current list of Missing Person exclusions for UP1746 per NamUs:
MP7588 Angela Allen 12/26/1979 Onondaga NY
MP20229 Willie Rucker 04/12/1979 Black Hawk IA (X2)
MP7528 Diane Hollins 06/11/1979 Volusia FL
MP22946 Ila Maynard 12/04/1974 Guilford NC

 

[MadMcGoo]

This UID reminds me a lot of Lisa Lambert. Lisa Monique Lambert – The Charley Project

The age range is all over the place for the UID so it’s hard to go based on that. Lisa is biracial; black and white. She has the right color hair and it appears to be kinky curly. She was last seen in Baltimore Maryland on October 17, 1979, which is about 6 1/2 weeks prior to the discovery of the UID on December 8, 1979. The PMI is listed at about 3 weeks. The only real discrepancy I saw was the height difference. Lisa is listed as being 5 feet 9 inches tall and the UID listed as 5 feet 4 inches. Lisa would have just turned 15 on December 2nd so she’s at the lower end of the age range.

I noticed in one photo of Lisa her eyebrows were pretty full but the other it appears that she has them plucked, they look a lot thinner, more like the UID’s reconstruction... IMOO

 

[Melt71]

Teeth numbers 1, 16, 17, and 32 are unerupted and still in the follicular stage of development.

That's wisdom teeth still developing. I wouldn't mind betting we are looking at the younger end of the age range, as others have pointed out.

 

[aThousandYearsWide]

The Doe Network:
Case File 1506DFTX

Right: Age-progressed Image

Pinkie Mae Davis-Herron
Missing since January 1, 1979 from Del Valle, Travis County, Texas.
Classification: Endangered Missing

Vital Statistics

• • Date Of Birth: January 31, 1956
  • Age at Time of Disappearance: 23 years old
  • Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 5'3"; 120-130 lbs.
  • Distinguishing Characteristics: Biracial female (Black/White/Hispanic). Brown hair; hazel/brown eyes. Petite frame.
  • Jewelry: Wore a ring on the right hand 3rd finger
  • Dentals: Not available
  • DNA: Available

Circumstances of Disappearance
Davis-Herron was last seen heading down to Tex Golden Nugget, a Motel in the neighborhood were she worked.
Some friends saw her driving in that direction and she blew her horn at them and waved.

She has never been seen again.

Investigators
If you have any information concerning this case, please contact:

Travis County Sheriff's Department
Detective Jim Anderson
512-854-3234

Agency Case Number: 04-36882

NCIC Number: M056167540
Please refer to this number when contacting any agency with information regarding this case.

Source Information:
Texas Department of Public Safety

***Only thing is Pinkie appears to have a gap inbetween her front teeth(diastema)***

 

[aThousandYearsWide]

3525DFIA - Willie Ann Rucker

Name: Willie Ann Rucker
Case Classification: Involuntary Missing
Missing Since: April 12, 1979
Location Last Seen: Waterloo, Black Hawk County, Iowa

Physical Description
Date of Birth: August 11, 1951
Age: 27 years old
Race: Black
Gender: Female
Height: 5'3"
Weight: 110 lbs.
Hair Color: Black
Eye Color: Brown
Distinguishing Marks/Features: Unknown

Identifiers
Dentals: Not Available
Fingerprints: Not Available
DNA: Available

Clothing & Personal Items
Clothing: Unknown
Jewelry: Unknown
Additional Personal Items: Unknown

Circumstances of Disappearance
On April 8, 1979, Willie Ann Rucker called her sister from a grocery store after working late and asked her to take the three children to her apartment. She has not been seen or heard from since.

Investigating Agency(s)
Agency Name: Waterloo Police Department
Agency Contact Person: Sgt. Brian Hoelscher
Agency Phone Number: 319-291-4340 ext 3219
Agency E-Mail: [email protected]
Agency Case Number: W79-3223

NCIC Case Number: Unknown
NamUs Case Number: 20229

Information Source(s)
Namus
Cedar Valley Crimestoppers

 

[aThousandYearsWide]

Case File: Ethel Louise Atwell 3292DFNY
The Doe Network

Ethel Louise Atwell

• Case Classification: Endangered Missing

• Missing Since: October 24, 1978

• Location Last Seen: Staten Island, NY

Physical Description
** Listed information is from the time of disappearance.

• Date of Birth: Unknown

• Age at Time of Disappearance: 47

• Race: Black

• Gender: Female

• Height at Time of Disappearance: 5'4" - 5'6"

• Weight at Time of Disappearance: 156 -162 lbs.

• Hair Color: Black

• Eye Color: Brown

• Alias(s) / Nickname(s): Unknown

• Distinguishing Marks/Features: Unknown

• Dentals: Not Available

• Fingerprints: Not Available

• DNA: Not Available

Clothing & Personal Items

• Clothing: unknown

• Jewelry: Unknown

• Additional Personal Items: Unknown

Circumstances of Disappearance
Ethel Atwell (physical therapist aide at Willow Brook State Institution ) was dragged from a parking lot there as she was about to get out of her car on October 24, 1978. Several employees in the building where she was scheduled to work heard someone say "Come on, come on," and Atwell say "No, you`ll beat me." Then she screamed. Ethel has not been seen or heard from again.





Investigating Agency(s)
If you have any information about this case please contact;

• Agency Name: Staten Island, New York Police

• Agency Contact Person: Detective Patrick Savage

• Agency Phone Number: 718-556-7122

• Agency Case Number: #109-12

• NCIC Case Number: Unknown

• NamUs Case Number: MP #14598

***Via her Charley Project page she wore dentures so unlikely this is our doe***

 

[margarita25]

I had this exact same snoopy watch as a kid. I might even still have it.

 

[aThousandYearsWide]

3525DFIA - Willie Ann Rucker

Name: Willie Ann Rucker
Case Classification: Involuntary Missing
Missing Since: April 12, 1979
Location Last Seen: Waterloo, Black Hawk County, Iowa

Physical Description
Date of Birth: August 11, 1951
Age: 27 years old
Race: Black
Gender: Female
Height: 5'3"
Weight: 110 lbs.
Hair Color: Black
Eye Color: Brown
Distinguishing Marks/Features: Unknown

Identifiers
Dentals: Not Available
Fingerprints: Not Available
DNA: Available

Clothing & Personal Items
Clothing: Unknown
Jewelry: Unknown
Additional Personal Items: Unknown

Circumstances of Disappearance
On April 8, 1979, Willie Ann Rucker called her sister from a grocery store after working late and asked her to take the three children to her apartment. She has not been seen or heard from since.

Investigating Agency(s)
Agency Name: Waterloo Police Department
Agency Contact Person: Sgt. Brian Hoelscher
Agency Phone Number: 319-291-4340 ext 3219
Agency E-Mail: [email protected]
Agency Case Number: W79-3223

NCIC Case Number: Unknown
NamUs Case Number: 20229

Information Source(s)
Namus
Cedar Valley Crimestoppers

Willie is in the ruleouts for this doe

 

[aThousandYearsWide]

Case File: Denise El-Mansura - 3345DFLA
The Doe Network

Missing Person Name

• Case Classification: Missing

• Missing Since: January 10, 1978

• Location Last Seen: New Orleans, Orleans Parish, Louisiana
  
  
  
  
  Physical Description
  ** Listed information is from the time of disappearance.
  

• Date of Birth: May 25, 1962

• Age at Time of Disappearance: 15 yrs old

• Race: Black

• Gender: Female

• Height at Time of Disappearance: Unknown

• Weight at Time of Disappearance: Unknown

• Hair Color: Unknown

• Eye Color: Unknown

• Alias(s) / Nickname(s): DeeDee
  

• Distinguishing Marks/Features: Unknown
  

• Dentals: Available

• Fingerprints: Not Available

• DNA: Available
  Clothing & Personal Items

• Clothing: Unknown
  

• Jewelry: Unknown
  

• Additional Personal Items: Unknown
  
  
  
  
  Circumstances of Disappearance
  Denise "Dee Dee" El-Mansura was last seen in New Orleans Louisiana on January 10th 1978. Denise rose the public bus to school with her sister, she was supposed to have lunch with her Aunt but never showed up. She has never been seen since.
  
  
  
  
  
  Investigating Agency(s)
  If you have any information about this case please contact;
  

• Agency Name: New Orleans Police Department

• Agency Contact Person: N/A

• Agency Phone Number: 504-658-5300

• E-Mail
  

• Agency Name: LSU

• Agency Contact Person: Helen Bouzon

• Agency Phone Number: 225-578-4761

• E-Mail
  
  
  

• Agency Case Number: C-44964-12

• FACES Case Number: #552

• NCIC Case Number: #M121825715

Her Height and Weight was 5'4, 115 pounds via her charley project page

 

[aThousandYearsWide]

I had this exact same snoopy watch as a kid. I might even still have it.

Do you remember around what year you got it? The Snoopy watch could be a clue.

 

[margarita25]

Do you remember around what year you got it? The Snoopy watch could be a clue.

It was a gift from either Canada or England. Maybe around 1978.

I loved the watch so much, that even after the original strap broke, I had it refitted with a metal stretchy band and wore it into my older years. I’m not sure if I still have it, I haven’t seen it in a long time. I might have lost it. I will look. I will also call my relatives to ask them where they got it and when, if they remember.

eta: please remind me to follow up if i don’t post soon - feel free to bug me

 

[aThousandYearsWide]

I found the exact watch on Ebay and Etsy and they state that the original copyright is from 1958, but the Etsy listing also says 1977.

Vintage Wind Up Snoopy Peanuts moving Tennis ball wrist Watch 1958 yellow band | eBay
Vintage Yellow Snoopy Magic Tennis Ball Timex Manual Watch 1958/1977 Excellent

 

[margarita25]

I found the exact watch on Ebay and Etsy and they state that the original copyright is from 1958, but the Etsy listing also says 1977.

Vintage Wind Up Snoopy Peanuts moving Tennis ball wrist Watch 1958 yellow band | eBay
Vintage Yellow Snoopy Magic Tennis Ball Timex Manual Watch 1958/1977 Excellent

yeah I would say it was somewhere between 1977 and 1979.