Found Deceased NC - Mitzi Sue "Susan" Clements, 53, hiker, Great Smoky Mountains NP, 25 Sept 2018

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The trail is a little rough in spots in looking at recent photos from other hikers, and it can be slippery if it's rained which it has. Hopefully, she's "on trail" just not the one she was expected to take. The rain poncho is a good thing to have but it's unlikely to keep her whole body dry, without shelter hypothermia is a risk if her lower body gets wet and it's down in the 50's at night. She was dressed for warm, daytime temperatures and it's unknown if she had food/water/gear with her.
 
Search underway for missing woman near Clingmans Dome

“Ms. Clements was last seen around roughly 5 p.m." said Julena Campbell with GSMNP. "The daughter decided to hike ahead just a little bit. The plan was to turn around and just meet up with her. She did that. They weren't separated for very long but when she turned around she couldn't find her mother.”
 
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Cleves woman missing in Smoky Mountains
 
Gosh, sending so many positive, hopeful vibes to Ms. Clements. I’d have a hard time forgiving myself if I split trails with my mom and she got lost. I don’t even like my mom. Hoping for both their sakes that she’s hunkered down waiting to be rescued.
 
Search underway for missing woman near Clingmans Dome

“Ms. Clements was last seen around roughly 5 p.m." said Julena Campbell with GSMNP. "The daughter decided to hike ahead just a little bit. The plan was to turn around and just meet up with her. She did that. They weren't separated for very long but when she turned around she couldn't find her mother.”

Thanks for linking that article, LaylaD! The daughter's account has my eyebrows disappearing into my forehead....she reportedly hiked "a little ahead" of her mother but apparently went out of voice/hearing range? Something does not add up, IMO.
 
Thanks for linking that article, LaylaD! The daughter's account has my eyebrows disappearing into my forehead....she reportedly hiked "a little ahead" of her mother but apparently went out of voice/hearing range? Something does not add up, IMO.

It doesn't have to be a conspiracy theory! This trail is rocky in places and in places can present a fall danger. Also, there are numerous black bear in the area as well as wild boar... As a former Park Ranger I've found that many people who get lost or injured are the ones who have tended to stray from the trail; they then cannot find their way back and they get thirsty, exposed to the elements, hungry, etc. It does not take long for someone with limited personal resources to find themselves in big, big trouble. Photos of Forney Ridge Trail - North Carolina | AllTrails
 
The Forney Ridge Trail is an American hiking trail, in the Great Smoky Mountains National Park of Swain County, North Carolina. The trail descends from just beneath the highest summit in the national park, Clingmans Dome, along Forney Ridge and passes through Andrews Bald (elev. 5,860 ft) before terminating at a junction with the Springhouse Branch Trail. -Wikipedia
 
From Wikipedia:

Trailhead to Andrews Bald
The Forney Ridge Trail begins easily enough at the base of the paved trail to the Clingmans Dome observation tower. The first 0.1-mile (0.16 km) of the trail consists of a series of leveled, rocky platforms, put together by the national park service apparently due to the previously hazardous, steep, rocky slope. At the end of these "stairs" the trail comes to a fork with a side trail that leads on to the Appalachian Trail about a half mile up (and not far past that to the observation tower at Clingmans Dome), and the Forney Ridge Trail continuing on to the left, down along the ridge for which it is named.

Although the trail is relatively easy, it is advisable to use caution. The early portion can be slippery in icy winters and may contain loose rocks. In the 1920s the trees here were swept by a wildfire which has given the area an awkward mix of young shrubbery and woods, but this portion is rather short and within a mile the trail passes into the spruce-fir zone, which has also had problems more recently with air pollution and the balsam wooly adelgid. At 1.1 miles (1.8 km) the trail comes to a split with the Forney Creek Trail, which, to the right, leads down 11 miles (18 km) to Fontana Lake.

From here the trail actually rises up for about a quarter mile, the only such notable jaunt along its path, before leveling out and gently sloping back down to Andrews Bald at 1.8 miles (2.9 km). Andrews Bald is a grassy bald, and, at 5,800 feet (1,800 m), it is the highest bald in the national park. In mid-June, the bald provides a wonderful display of Catawba rhododendron and flame azalea, the best show for the least effort, although it can’t quite match that of the more isolated Gregory Bald. Due to the natural encroachment of the forest onto the once grazed open balds in the park, Andrews Bald (along with the aforementioned Gregory Bald) has been designated as an experimental research zone, whereby the national park service will preserve the area as a grassy bald.

Andrews Bald to Springhouse Branch Trail
Down past Andrews Bald, the Forney Ridge Trail continues its descent down Forney Ridge, eventually coming down to Board Camp Gap and its junction with the Springhouse Branch Trail at 5.6 miles (9.0 km). This trail can be taken in conjunction with the Noland and then later Forney Creek Trails back up to the Forney Ridge Parking Area for a long 18-mile (29 km) backpacking loop, or, by turning left at the Forney Creek Trail, down to Fontana Lake in North Carolina.
 
Mitzie Sue "Susan" Clements, of Cleves, Ohio, was last seen about 5 p.m. Tuesday on the Forney Ridge Trail, approximately a quarter-mile from Andrews Bald, after she and her daughter separated.

Clements is described as a white woman with light brown hair and blue eyes. She stands 5 feet 6 inches tall and weighs about 125 pounds.

Clements was last seen wearing a green zip-up sweater, black workout pants over black leggings, a clear rain poncho and white tennis shoes.

Amid rain and fog, crews search Smokies for Ohio woman missing since Tuesday

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The daughter's account has my eyebrows disappearing into my forehead....she reportedly hiked "a little ahead" of her mother but apparently went out of voice/hearing range? Something does not add up, IMO.

That's not uncommon. Assuming that is her daughter in the photo with her, she appears to be an older teenager, and probably has way more energy than mom. I wouldn't be surprised if she wanted to run on ahead to whatever their goal was, and then turn back and join mom for the way down. We've done that when hiking before. (That said, I wouldn't want my teen daughter to go ahead alone, but in a national park you might think you are safe to do that.)
 
That's not uncommon. Assuming that is her daughter in the photo with her, she appears to be an older teenager, and probably has way more energy than mom. I wouldn't be surprised if she wanted to run on ahead to whatever their goal was, and then turn back and join mom for the way down. We've done that when hiking before. (That said, I wouldn't want my teen daughter to go ahead alone, but in a national park you might think you are safe to do that.)

My friends and I were just in Colorado doing some pretty intense elevation hiking. This highest we got was 12,000+ with elevation increases of over 2000 feet in two miles. A little more intense than the hike she was on, but most of the same dangers are still present. We are all at different physical levels so some went ahead while others hiked at a slower pace. Luckily we were all safe, but separating based on experience or ability is actually pretty common.

Luckily we were all able to meet at the summit and hike back down together. I actually think hiking down was more dangerous than up because if you go off trail and slip.. well, super dangerous and risky. The mistake is going off the trail where your other party doesn't know where to look. If you get injured or lost then, you're on your own.

((Considering my time on this site, I definitely yelled at whoever went speeding ahead! HAVE YOU READ WEBSLEUTHS?!))

I hope she's found quickly and safely!!
 
That's not uncommon. Assuming that is her daughter in the photo with her, she appears to be an older teenager, and probably has way more energy than mom. I wouldn't be surprised if she wanted to run on ahead to whatever their goal was, and then turn back and join mom for the way down. We've done that when hiking before. (That said, I wouldn't want my teen daughter to go ahead alone, but in a national park you might think you are safe to do that.)

Thanks, doublestop! I'm not a hiker, so it's helpful to know that it's not uncommon for people to split up during hikes....I thought it would be more likely for 2 women out hiking alone to stick together (safety concerns), but the way you explained it makes sense to me, i.e., younger daughter having more energy and wanting to go at a a more vigorous pace. If it was raining at the time, that increases the risk of a slip/fall.
 
My friends and I were just in Colorado doing some pretty intense elevation hiking. This highest we got was 12,000+ with elevation increases of over 2000 feet in two miles. A little more intense than the hike she was on, but most of the same dangers are still present. We are all at different physical levels so some went ahead while others hiked at a slower pace. Luckily we were all safe, but separating based on experience or ability is actually pretty common.

Luckily we were all able to meet at the summit and hike back down together. I actually think hiking down was more dangerous than up because if you go off trail and slip.. well, super dangerous and risky. The mistake is going off the trail where your other party doesn't know where to look. If you get injured or lost then, you're on your own.

((Considering my time on this site, I definitely yelled at whoever went speeding ahead! HAVE YOU READ WEBSLEUTHS?!))

I hope she's found quickly and safely!!

BBM: Thanks, PM! That is really helpful info for us non-hiking aka couch potato types! So separating is common, but does increase risks....question: is there a standard sort of "safety protocol" for what hikers should do or carry with them in the event they do get separated from others and are either lost or injured?
 

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