NC - Shaniya Davis, 5, Allegedly sold by mother 11/10/09 #11

[BeanE]

OMG this is heart ranching...If you have any tears left this one will definitely get to you.
Poor father.....My heart goes out to him....

Oh dear God. Give this father strength. Ease his pain. Help him to heal. Protect him from harm.

 

[CarrieBean]

Forgive my venting, a little off topic. I'll make it quick. Shaniya reminds me so much of my dear granddaughter whose mother has not let me see her for two years. Why? Because she suspects that I called Child Protective Services on her. Did I? After hearing of her being left alone, choked, almost drowned, tongue-kissing by her aunt a few years older than her, and finally her drug-addicted drug-selling grandfather sharing her room with her, shouldn't I have? And if so, does that mean I don't deserve to be a part of my son's daughter's life? She called me Nana, like all my grands do. But her mom said she had to start calling me Grandma because Nana 'sounds too much like mama.' Yet she calls her maternal grandmother Mom and the druggie grandfather none less than DADDY. Almost everyone in my granddaughter's life on her mom's side has been in jail for drugs or other offenses. As long as I gave thousands of dollars worth of gifts, clothes, school supplies, food, money - things went OK. Multiple trips to Disneyland, to the beach, to the park, to the show, everything. I kept her all summer three summers in a row and the mom barely called her daughter. But it was never enough for her mom. There was always a demand for outrageous things and money. When I put my foot down (after my husband's dementia led to his being placed in an adult family home - expensive) and continued to try to protect my granddaughter, I am now shut out of her life. There are no laws in my state to help me. My son and the mom were not married and he has no visitation. He is afraid to seek it because he is on SSI due to a mental health problem. That leaves me, the loving grandmother, totally out in the cold. So I know the pain of loss. It can't compare to what happened to Shaniya of course, but I think her death takes me back to the death of the relationship I had with my granddaughter who I miss and love very much. She will be 11 in a few months. Nana loves you, Azaria. God be with you, Shaniya. Thanks for letting me share.

Azaria is beautiful, Quiet. Geez, I don't know what to say. I hope you get to see your Granddaughter some time soon. No child should have to live like that.

I just don't get it. If you don't care for your kids, give them to someone who does.

 

[PoppyH]

Found this Artical in our local Paper, thttp://www.charlotteobserver.com/local/story/1060102.html Intresting

 

[belimom]

We travel alot between our home and my family's area, and will be staying in a few hotels with the holidays coming up. We usually stop in the Fayetteville area as it's just about the halfway point...

However, I don't think I'll ever be able to stay in a hotel again and listen to children crying in the night (like they sometimes do) and not wonder if something more is happening instead of just a normal child protesting bedtime or whatever. This case has been eye-opening. I always pictured a dark basement or a rundown motel with busted out windows. Not your average middle-class hotel that any of our families could choose to stay at. I guess I've just been too naive. Now my eyes are wide open.

 

[CharlestonGal]

Here is the quote as it appeared before it was taken down from the website:



The article went away rather quickly - note it was a State Highway Patrol alert that was issued not from the Fayetteville LE. Tried to look for alerts on the State Highway Patrol site but didn't have much time to really look.

The link is no longer active.

My guess would be that a tipster saw someone who looked like Shaniya driving in a car with a man of that description and called it in. It became moot after the body was identified, which is why it went away.

 

[snookie]

At the vigil, her father says "Bless those that didn't know no better."

Either shell-shocked or a much better Christian than I will ever be.

No doubt he is shell shocked, but maybe he was referring to himself in that statement.

My heart goes out to that poor man. His pain, grief, and guilt must be unbearable.

I have cried so many tears for this child. This case has touched me like no other.
I balled through NG's entire show last night. Can't work - can't sleep.

I do have a couple of questions that have been bothering me and maybe you know the answer.

1. why did the spokeswoman say "we feel she is being very well taken care of" during one of the pressers? unbelieveable - where did she get this from?
2. why was there NO REWARD for this child from the get-go? I feel this could have possibly helped...since all these people are crack heads.

Thanks

BBM

I think that was just a ploy as to not spook the perps(s).

 

[songline]

My heart just aches for that precious little girl. She was taken from the only home she knew, where she was cherished and adored. Dressed in beautiful clothes, hair fixed, taught love and manners. Then left with people who treated her worse than trash.

I can't knock the dad... I can sit here and readily say that I would've done things very differently, but obviously there are many details and circumstances I'm not privy to. I think in the dad's heart, he was trying to do something good. Trying to give his little girl the chance to get to know her "mother". He never expected the woman who gave birth to his child to be such a sorry . Who would??

The low life piece of trash egg donor (may she ROT IN HELL), was probably resentful of beautiful little Shaniya. Jealous. Stole everything she had. Including her life. That baby most likely was blessed with everything she (b itch from hell) never had. Pretty clothes, a lovely home, education, happiness, a daddy's love, and a bright future. Why she wouldn't want those things for her own flesh and blood I just don't understand, and don't care to.

I hope to God she's not pregnant. If she is, I pray a wonderful loving family will get that baby, same goes for Shaniya's 7 year old brother. These babies did not ask to be born into this hell!!

needs to be thrown in with the general population and let nature take it's course. Let those mothers who would die to be able to be with their own babies get ahold of her. Her ovaries need to be ripped from her body and shoved down her filthy throat. imo




I too am totally confused on the whole school thing.

ITA I think the father meant well by letting Poor angel have some Mom time. His heart was always in the right place.
But he was not smart enough to investigate the situation first, he had plenty on his side when Shaniya was living with him and his sister. I think if he knew mom was a drug addict in the past a good investigation of her situation would have been something that should have been done legally.
But his name was not on the BC so Shanaiya's Mom may have had all the Cards on her side. I don't know.
He certainly could not have possibly thought of what ended up happening?

But when Mom threatened the aunt that she will not see Shaniya again, it may have been hard to get that child back because dad was not on the BC.
Kindly correct me if I am mistaken, I could not read everything on this case. I just learned about the case yesterday, and it is just to hard to handle to read it all, as it is I woke up twice in the night and then after 6 AM I could not go back to sleep. this case is the worst. I don't know how anyone can even think to harm a child.

 

[Linda7NJ]

...I'm sorry but I just can't agree with not faulting him for sending her there....if you love your child you always want what's best....you don't send your precious baby to live in a run down trailer when you live in a nice house to give a piece of ****** drug addict a chance to be a "mother"....

I would be lying if I said I didn't agree.

Many of you know my son was placed with me as a foster child when he was 3 weeks old. It took me three and a half years to be able to adopt him. DHS has INCREDIBLY LOW standards for returning a child to a biological parent. I lawyered up and fought like hell, and when the judge court ordered unsupervised visitations...I held my breath, cried and was beside myself fearing what could happen to him. Of course she screwed up, repeatedly. One example she was 1:45 minutes late returning him from a visit. When she finally showed up, she was drunk, the driver was drunk and she had sold my car seat, my son was sitting in hos own filth and hungry and thristy. Another time, on EASTER.... she fed him a spoiled hot dog, he got food poisoning we spent the night and next day at the ER.

 

[not_my_kids]

Amidst our pain, lets not forget the others that are grieving...the person that acted on the Amber Alert from the hotel...her teachers...the neighbor...
It is easy to point fingers and say what everyone could have done.
I am not going to do that, hard as it is.

How many times have we had our eyebrows raised by something, but we go about our day anyway?
A child crying two aisles away in the store...probably just having a fit, and anyway you need to get home and make dinner.
A sound outside...probably an animal, and the alarm goes off early.
A child not dressed quite right for the weather, travelling with a man...oh, well, single father, not too good at the fashion yet, we have to get home to our own kids.
A child that looks a little like the girl from the Amber Alert last week...but, there's no way it can be her...and if you're late again, you'll get fired.

Let this be a lesson for all of us.

 

[MommyInHighHeels]

They would have made more off her if she wasn't broken in. Most perps like to have that all to themselves....
I need a lobotomy, I know too much about how these things happen.

BBM

Although I know the link below is speaking of the trafficking in Cambodia, it does show this to be true.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4038249/

"Many sex tourists come to Cambodia for exactly that reason, and they're willing to pay a premium. Madam Lang tells us her virgins go for $600, and for that price she says we can take a girl back to the hotel and keep her there for up to three days. When she brings out the girl, the 15-year-old looks paralyzed with fear.

A child's tragic journey into the sex trade often begins in a family struggling for survival. This is a country where the average income is less than $300 a year. Some children are sold by their own parents. Others are lured by what they think are legitimate job offers like waitressing, but then are forced into prostitution."

BBM

 

[CarrieBean]

So true, NMK.

 

[belimom]

Found this Artical in our local Paper, thttp://www.charlotteobserver.com/local/story/1060102.html Intresting

Thanks for posting that. Here's a snippet that might explain exactly how Shaniya ended up staying so long (but it doesn't explain withdrawing her from school b/c the mom wouldn't have been able to do that on her own since she was not the legal guardian):

Shaniya went to visit her mother on Oct. 31. Lockhart said she packed Shaniya enough clothes for two days and expected to pick her up that Sunday.

But on Sunday morning, Lockhart said, Davis called and told her that she'd never see Shaniya again. Lockhart said Davis was angry that she had disciplined Shaniya for getting into a fight with her cousins.

"I was at a loss; I had no idea what to do," said Lockhart, who had no formal custody of Shaniya and could not demand her return.

"I knew when (my brother) came home, we were going to have to go to court and make some changes so we didn't have to endure this," Lockhart said.

That resolution never came. Bradley Lockhart had not returned from a job in Oregon when Shaniya disappeared.

Last Tuesday, Lockhart rang his sister with bizarre news. A neighbor called him to say that police were looking for Shaniya.

As they were talking on the phone, police knocked on Carey Lockhart's door. They had found her name listed as a guardian at Shaniya's elementary school.

A million thoughts raced through Carey Lockhart's head: Maybe her mother was hiding her? Maybe someone wanted to collect a ransom from her brother?

She peppered police with questions. They grilled her right back. She feared they suspected she had done something to Shaniya. She buckled in tears and remembers police relenting.

"I was about to die," Lockhart said. "I cannot describe the devastation. All the things I could have done different."

 

[not_my_kids]

So the creature that gave birth to her disciplined her for a fight, and hours later, she's gone, leaving behind feces smeared most everywhere.

Looks like maybe the creature that gave birth to her may be a little harsh on the discipline...just saying.

 

[snookie]

ITA I think the father meant well by letting Poor angel have some Mom time. His heart was always in the right place.
But he was not smart enough to investigate the situation first, he had plenty on his side when Sheniya was living with him and his sister. I think if he knew she was a drug addict in the past a good investigation of her situation would have been something I would have done legally.
But his name was not on the BC and the Mom may have had all the Cards. I don't know.
He could not have possibly thought of what ended up happening?
But when Mom threatened the Aunt that she will not see Sheniya again, it may have been hard to get that child back because dad was not on the BC.
Kindly correct me if I am mistaken, I could not read everything on this case. I just learned about the case yesterday, and it is just to hard to handle.

BBM

Yes, I believe their hands were tied (legally). There were no formal custody arrangements. The parents were never married, so once dad turned Shaniya over to the scum bucket there wasn't a damn thing he or the aunt could do. Not at that moment anyway. He could've hired a lawyer and maybe gotten her back, but that would've taken a lot of time. Too much time.

That poor man was not counting on something like this happening... he trusted the "mother".


Slightly O/T, but last night on NG I found it odd how Shaniya's older half sister was smiling throughout the interview?

 

[CarrieBean]

Thanks for posting that. Here's a snippet that might explain exactly how Shaniya ended up staying so long (but it doesn't explain withdrawing her from school b/c the mom wouldn't have been able to do that on her own since she was not the legal guardian):

Do you happen to have the link to the article with the school official? I took it to mean she was emotionally withdrawn, not withdrawn from school. I may have misunderstood. :waitasec:

ETA: I found it, and I definitely misunderstood.

 

[belimom]

So the creature that gave birth to her disciplined her for a fight, and hours later, she's gone, leaving behind feces smeared most everywhere.

Looks like maybe the creature that gave birth to her may be a little harsh on the discipline...just saying.

I think she's saying that Davis was angry at Lockhart for disciplining Shaniya and that was Davis' excuse for not letting Shaniya go back home with Davis.

 

[CarrieBean]

So the creature that gave birth to her disciplined her for a fight, and hours later, she's gone, leaving behind feces smeared most everywhere.

Looks like maybe the creature that gave birth to her may be a little harsh on the discipline...just saying.

I think it was the Aunt who disciplined her and the mother got angry over it?

 

[CharlestonGal]

So the creature that gave birth to her disciplined her for a fight, and hours later, she's gone, leaving behind feces smeared most everywhere.

Looks like maybe the creature that gave birth to her may be a little harsh on the discipline...just saying.

I think Lockhart meant that egg donor was angry that Lockhart had disciplined Shaniya.

 

[not_my_kids]

I think she's saying that Davis was angry at Lockhart for disciplining Shaniya and that was Davis' excuse for not letting Shaniya go back home with Davis.

Rereading it, I think you may be right...what ever happened to writing clearly?

 

[CarrieBean]

Rereading it, I think you may be right...what ever happened to writing clearly?

The whole Lockhart-Davis thing is confusing, I think.