NC - Shaniya Davis, 5, Fayetteville, 10 Nov 2009 - Allegedly sold by mother #24

[kiki the parrot]

Cheyenne Lockhart says her father wasn't in either of their lives that much.

"I understand he did love her, but he wasn't always in her life," she said. "She was raised by ex-girlfriends, another child's mother in Florida; I mean other people raised her."

I'm just not prepared to totally discount everything CL and others who were around during Shaniya's short life are saying. Where there's that much smoke there has to be a little bit of fire, kwim.

http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=news/local&id=7123252

arrot:

 

[SunnieRN]

Oooooo....good question. Nothing has really been said about the son. I do know that someone had asked where he was, but that no one knew or could provide that information.

So where is her son? Has she only given birth twice, or are there other children ubaccoubted for also?

As for a one night stand. If they stayed in touch enough to know that they were the parents, I highly doubt it was a one night relationship. I could be wrong, of course, but how would she have known how, where or why to find him? Just doesn't add up inmo.

 

[not_my_kids]

I'm trying to think back, and without links, which I'll go find, I can't think of a single person that has kept a solid timeline.
BL: Said Shaniya went to AD's on the 9th, until this morning, when it became the 10th (unless he's really bad with addition.)

Carey: Has stuck to her timeline, kudos on that.

AD: Couldn't stick to her timeline for the 3 minutes she was on the phone with 911.

MAM: Not talking, and hearing his timeline of events would probably make me ill.

Coe: Can't decide how long he knew Shaniya, or when he started dating AD.

BD: Not talking...to us anyway.

C. BL's older daughter: Can't trust her timeline, IMO. The "he kicked me out on the street," when he didn't have custody at the time to do any kicking, destroyed her credibility for me.

So, my question is, is there actually a credible source talking anywhere right now in connection with this case?
Exceptions being LE and some of the media outlets. Some have lost their credibility with outdated info and splicing. Carey, also has kept a timeline, unless there are discrepancies in hers that I am forgetting about. MOO.

 

[lbminnesota]

I'm trying to think back, and without links, which I'll go find, I can't think of a single person that has kept a solid timeline.
BL: Said Shaniya went to AD's on the 9th, until this morning, when it became the 10th (unless he's really bad with addition.)

Carey: Has stuck to her timeline, kudos on that.
AD: Couldn't stick to her timeline for the 3 minutes she was on the phone with 911.

MAM: Not talking, and hearing his timeline of events would probably make me ill.

Coe: Can't decide how long he knew Shaniya, or when he started dating AD.

BD: Not talking...to us anyway.

C. BL's older daughter: Can't trust her timeline, IMO. The "he kicked me out on the street," when he didn't have custody at the time to do any kicking, destroyed her credibility for me.

So, my question is, is there actually a credible source talking anywhere right now in connection with this case?
Exceptions being LE and some of the media outlets. Some have lost their credibility with outdated info and splicing. MOO.

Carey changed her story from Oct 31 to Oct 9

 

[kiki the parrot]

I think he loves his children, but not an involved parent. Like an old fashioned guy who has a woman doing the day-to-day parenting.

You know for the most part I'm on the same page w you friend but that's putting a little lipstick on the pig IMO, which is only to say there's nothing "old-fashioned" about having five (or six) different children by at least three different baby mamas, sluffing your children off onto a series of gf's, not bothering to officially get custody, having either no relationship or severed relationships w your children who change their names etc... I dunno, not sure what I'd call it but "old-fashioned" isn't what came to my mind.

arrot:

 

[lbminnesota]

You know for the most part I'm on the same page w you friend but that's putting a little lipstick on the pig IMO, which is only to say there's nothing "old-fashioned" about having five (or six) different children by at least three different baby mamas, sluffing your children off onto a series of gf's, not bothering to officially get custody, having either no relationship or severed relationships w your children who change their names etc... I dunno, not sure what I'd call it but "old-fashioned" isn't what came to my mind.

arrot:

Okay, you got me there. Searching for a word to describe distant, not into parenting, trouble with commitment, immature but with a dash of goodness for taking Shaniya after the first year.

 

[not_my_kids]

Okay, you got me there. Searching for a word to describe distant, not into parenting, trouble with commitment, immature but with a dash of goodness for taking Shaniya after the first year.

BBM. Seems to about cover it. MOO.

 

[songline]

So where is her son? Has she only given birth twice, or are there other children ubaccoubted for also?

As for a one night stand. If they stayed in touch enough to know that they were the parents, I highly doubt it was a one night relationship. I could be wrong, of course, but how would she have known how, where or why to find him? Just doesn't add up inmo.

It sure does not add up in my book either, Another poster describe to me situations where someone can be an acquaintance, a co-worker, and some thing happens and it is a "One night stand" NO IT IS NOT those people are acquaintances, co-workers, associates, whatever....But you had a moment of weakness SO WHAT...You do not define that as a "One Night Stand." Shaniyas father said "a One Night Stand" and he was very dismissive of it. HE MEANT EXACTLY what I had described and not some other form of relationship where they fell in bed by mistake one time. NOP.

So how did she find him to let him know she is preg....?
What does he have going on with that crowd o,f no good low lives?

 

[not_my_kids]

Carey Lockhart-Davis has spoken with the media and stated that she did not feel comfortable with Shaniya moving in with her mother. Bradley Lockhart said that Carey had not shared those concerns with him.
http://primewriter.com/news-1246-headlines/?p=1079

And once again, we have someone going under the bus, and no real indication who to believe. (Although I do find it hard to believe that Carey wouldn't have said something at some point.)

Facts, please, LE and Mr/Mrs Prosecutor, may we please have some facts? Any old little verified facts.

 

[Bobbisangel]

"I just wanted her to be a mother," he said Saturday. "She was never part of her life."

http://www.fayobserver.com/Articles/2009/11/15/952445

His story seems to change with every interview. I wonder why it was so important to the father for the mother to be a mother? Shaniya seemed to be doing just fine without her. I raised four kids by myself from the time my kids were 9,8,7, and 4. Their father lived about 40 minutes away but he rarely came to see them. There is no way I would have tried to force him to be a dad to them because if he had wanted to be a dad he would have made an effort. There is also no way in hell I would have packed them up and taken them to go live with him.

 

[not_my_kids]

O/T: Shows that CPS and affiliates have learned nothing.
http://www.examiner.com/x-29916-Dav...-Services-places-girl-with-sex-offender-video
:banghead::banghead::banghead:

 

[Charlie09]

I never bought the one night stand BS not for one second.
So I wanted to hear from men, I made myself look nice and went out to interview them...

I have friends who write books and sometimes they just go into the street and talk to people.
So being a woman I wanted to hear it from men. (I went to the Dinner for a burger and started)
I asked men If I may interview them for a topic I am writing about called "the one night stand". Men were just too happy to talk. Here it is from 2 out of 6 men. But it was pretty similar in some ways.

Q = Question A= answer

Male 60 years old



MALE 42 years old

Here's my two cents - someone in his 60's who had one night stands "back in the day" is a little different than some of the more modern "hooking up" stories.

Now email and cell phones leave a trail. And just because someone has a one night or two night fling or whatever - doesn't mean they are hooking or doing it consistently -

This group is so intertwined, that as long as she knew his name, she'd be able to find him.

Also about him being on the birth certificate. I'm in California, but there was DNA testing done when I applied for child support services, after our "informal agreement" fell apart. I had to get the judge to officially order the birth certificate be amended to add the father to it. It may not have occurred to AD to do so, or what the benefit may be.

 

[kiki the parrot]

I wonder if there is some way to send a Christmas present to her 7 year-old bro... even just anonymously? If I can find out the name of the foster care agency would they forward it?

arrot:

 

[not_my_kids]

I misplaced my copy of the ghetto urban dictionary, so here's the next best thing
one-night stand
n
1. a performance given only once at any one place
2. Informal
a. a sexual encounter lasting only one evening or night
b. a person regarded as being only suitable for such an encounter
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/one-night+stand
Could BL have meant it as an insult?

Just thinking through my fingertips.

 

[lbminnesota]

His story seems to change with every interview.

I was just reading something posted on IS about the grief process for families of murder victims. It describes different coping mechanisms including the detatchment Brad is showing.

Sad he doesn't understand that if he just laid it out, what was going on, knows he made a horrible judgment error - he'd have the country weeping with him. This mystery about his intent puts all of this focus on him. Anything he says now with a flashy attorney doesn't have creditability with me.

 

[lbminnesota]

I wonder if there is some way to send a Christmas present to her 7 year-old bro... even just anonymously? If I can find out the name of the foster care agency would they forward it?

arrot:

That is a beautiful idea

 

[not_my_kids]

I should not be shocked by the content returned for the search words one+night+stand, yet somehow, I still am.

 

[not_my_kids]

I wonder if there is some way to send a Christmas present to her 7 year-old bro... even just anonymously? If I can find out the name of the foster care agency would they forward it?

arrot:

I didn't think it would be possible to get that information, so our family is sponsoring a local family from the "Wish Tree" for Christmas in Shaniya's name. If you do find out donation info for the brother, please share.

 

[kiki the parrot]

I didn't think it would be possible to get that information, so our family is sponsoring a local family from the "Wish Tree" for Christmas in Shaniya's name. If you do find out donation info for the brother, please share.

I will look into it in the am. In the meantime, that is a thoughtful way to do something in Shaniya's honor that will be a blessing to another child. :hug:

arrot:

 

[Bobbisangel]

Taken from the Oprah Interview transcript. We'll all interpeting his statements, but I interpret that Shaniya was with both AD and Brad after the first year.

LOCKHART: I wasn`t aware of any drug problem, never even crossed my mind. I never saw anything that would stand out to where she had a drug problem.

OPRAH WINFREY, HOST: As far as you know, did you feel that your daughter was safe with her?

LOCKHART: Yes, over the past five years, I never was greatly concerned dropping her off. I mean, you know, everybody`s always got a concern. Antoinette never lived in the best neighborhoods, so of course, there was always that concern. But I never was concerned of her caring for her as a mother.

Am I going blind or didn't he just say in a previous interview that the mother was never a part of Shaniya's life??? Was she or wasn't she. Above he also says "but I never was concerned of her caring for her as a mother." In a previous articel he said he wanted the mother to learn to be a mother!! I think he forgets what he said and there is a world of difference in the different statements.