NC - Shaniya Davis, 5, missing from her home 11/10/09 #1

[elle1919]

3 am....noises outside like someone was beating? (Neighbor) I wonder if she was positive about the time.

530 am......Mommy puts Shaniya on the couch? (why?...with blanket?)

Do we know what time anyone other than the people inside the home last report seeing Shaniya?

 

[mycroft]

I'd imagine this photo was taken yesterday? If so, now I'm wondering if somebody will say her blanket was on the clothes line. :waitasec:

In which case it should be freshly laundered. Perhaps it was laundered and incriminating stains did not come out, so it was trashed.

 

[SuziQ]

IMO, the septic issue was thrown out there by mom and whoever, to try to excuse the fact that feces were found on the backporch, blanket, etc. Their may not be a septic issue at all.

And why not throw that blanket away in your own trash if there is nothing nefarious to it?

 

[Texas Mist]

Mike on HLN says LE "isn't buying mom's story" -- is this true??

 

[momtective]

Maybe the sewage system was already backed up/clogged, and the kids were instructed to ask for help when they needed to use the toilet. Either they were supposed to go outside or in a bucket or something... (just thinking here!).... But, she couldn't hold it - and no one would help her. So she went on the blanket. Then, all hell broke loose.

This is exactly how my granddaughters have had to live! Their house was so bad they had to go next door to potty or go in a bucket or outside. No bathes for over 6 months, head lice and scabies. No food in the house, dog, cat and ferret feces and urine throughout the house, no beds and blankets and pillows that were filthy and reeked of urine. Mildewing laundry piled to the ceiling in every room and no electricity. But that was before they moved into a camper trailer in the dead of winter with 40 below temperatures...aaahhhh...the good life.:furious:...it didn't even have a bathroom!
This case and every case like it just infuriates me! It hits very close to home. :banghead: :banghead: :banghead::furious: :furious: :furious:

 

[elle1919]

Is HLN live right now?

 

[nervous_nellie]

if this has been posted - sia im trying to catch up!

the complete statement from neighbor about the blanket:

"Every time I think about it, it upsets me," she said. "The idea that this baby was missing is bad in itself, but actually feeling like I had something to do with it, that's pretty hard to deal with, this evidence being in my trash can."
Moore said she has no idea how the blanket got into her garbage can. She said police told her it was covered in feces and that feces was also found on the back porch of Davis' home.
The Davis family wasn't allowed to return to the home Tuesday because officials deemed it a health hazard due to extensive sewage leaks.

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/6397519/

i hope she wasnt wrapped in this blanket! But if it was covered with feces would that help or hurt the dog sniffing? would it cover her scent?

 

[panthera]

I'm listening to the report on HLN again. The manager of the mh park is a former sheriff's investigator. Also quoting her as saying she "worked her butt off for the past four years to make it a decent place to live". So what is up with the "sewage problem" at Shaniya's house unless it was caused by the tenants and I would like to know if it had been reported. It seems the landlord would've fixed it. MOO

 

[mycroft]

Wondering if the mother reported that Shaniya's blanket was missing from the start.

My thought was that they clearly suspect one of the adults in the home, so the easiest thing to do would be not to tell them that the blanket was found, and to ask the seven year old to identify it if he is being questioned separately. He would know what her blanket looked like and wouldn't lie about it since he probably wouldn't know the significance of the find.

ETA: I doubt that she reported it missing. It wasn't in the reports.

 

[belimom]

This is exactly how my granddaughters have had to live! ...snipped... This case and every case like it just infuriates me! It hits very close to home. :banghead: :banghead: :banghead::furious: :furious: :furious:

I'm so sorry, momtective.

 

[jnTexas]

Looking at that MH park I highly doubt they have septic tanks. The homes are too close. Most states and counties require a certain amount of property for a septic system to be put in, and they only serve one home. I'm betting this house is on a sewer system and the problems have something to do with the occupants.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

Ok, I finally caught up.
Wow, a lot of new info since this morning.

All I can say is OMG!!!!!

Somebody in the home had to do it. I don't see Mom covering for anybody so I'm thinking Mom did this. I may be wrong. Lord knows I've been wrong before.

The soiled blanket tells a lot I'm afraid. As much as my heart wants to believe this child is still on this earth, my mind is saying she's not.

This makes me so fricken angry!!!! Why on earth do these people continue to do this to God's precious children? There are so many wonderful people in this world that would give anything to have a child and can't.
But, as in most cases, there is almost always somebody near that would've taken the child if they are not wanted. But I guess some people would rather kill them than give over control to somebody else.

Makes me so sad.

 

[panthera]

Looking at that MH park I highly doubt they have septic tanks. The homes are too close. Most states and counties require a certain amount of property for a septic system to be put in, and they only serve one home. I'm betting this house is on a sewer system and the problems have something to do with the occupants.

I'm thinking so too. MOO

 

[not_my_kids]

Personal theory, either an accidental overdose, or potty accident, and fast cover up. Maybe the feces on the porch and blanket were from a potty issue, but I'm just not feeling that.
I'm more feeling that she was beaten for something else and put to bed, where she defecated on the blanket when she died of the beating. The neighbor would have heard someone either dropping her body or setting her down too hard when they transferred her into a different blanket for transport/disposal.

Or she was sick or ingested something, they might have just ignored it until it was too late.
Unless she was too scared to get out of bed, it isn't really typical for a 5 year old to poop the bed. (Of course, I am basing this on kids with well-balanced diets, and regular schedules, which we don't know that Shaniya had.)
I think it's a body hunt now, and probably has been since the beginning. I would happily be proven wrong, though.

 

[mycroft]

Updated

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/6397519/

"Moore said she was awakened by noises outside her home at about 3 a.m. Tuesday.

"It sounded like somebody was beating," she said.

She went back to sleep but was awakened later by police saying they were confiscating her trash can because it contained evidence in the disappearance of her young neighbor.

"Every time I think about it, it upsets me," she said. "The idea that this baby was missing is bad in itself, but actually feeling like I had something to do with it, that's pretty hard to deal with, this evidence being in my trash can."

Moore said she has no idea how the blanket got into her garbage can. She said police told her it was covered in feces and that feces were also found on the back porch of Davis' home."

I'm sure someone will have mentioned this by the time I get to the end of the thread, but this has strong shades of the Baker case in which the baby Shannon suspect is implicated. In one of the police reports the husband says she beat the boy until he soiled himself.

 

[NewMommy09]

This is exactly how my granddaughters have had to live! Their house was so bad they had to go next door to potty or go in a bucket or outside. No bathes for over 6 months, head lice and scabies. No food in the house, dog, cat and ferret feces and urine throughout the house, no beds and blankets and pillows that were filthy and reeked of urine. Mildewing laundry piled to the ceiling in every room and no electricity. But that was before they moved into a camper trailer in the dead of winter with 40 below temperatures...aaahhhh...the good life.:furious:...it didn't even have a bathroom!
This case and every case like it just infuriates me! It hits very close to home. :banghead: :banghead: :banghead::furious: :furious: :furious:

Oh momtective. I'm SO SO SO sorry. I'll be keeping your grandchildren in my prayers. Things have GOT to get better in that situation.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

My thought was that they clearly suspect one of the adults in the home, so the easiest thing to do would be not to tell them that the blanket was found, and to ask the seven year old to identify it if he is being questioned separately. He would know what her blanket looked like and wouldn't lie about it since he probably wouldn't know the significance of the find.

ETA: I doubt that she reported it missing. It wasn't in the reports.

I'm thinking they can get a lot of info from 7 year old.
I hate the child is having to be put thru this but I bet he/she (I don't remember if the 7yo is boy or girl) can tell LE what happened.
IMO a 7 year old would not sleep thru it if in fact she was beaten.

 

[nursebeeme]

perhaps there is a shred of truth that mom says she put her on the couch at 0530. Perhaps, tho, she wasn't alive when she did it.

sorry to be disgusting like that....

Also, I agree that this mhp would most likely be connected to the sewer system and the "sewage" problem in the home is due to those living there... mister nursebeeme worked as a maintenance dude in college at the apartments we lived in and you would not believe the things that college coeds would flush down the toilet!!! He once pulled a shampoo bottle out of one..

If the toilet was backed up/overflowed that could also lend to the terminology sewage...

 

[Isabelle]

News on dumpster search, NOT GOOD
http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/6397519/

No, not good at all. Feces on the blanket and on the porch - could be due to incontinence at death. The the report mentions the family cannot stay there due to sewerage leaks. So, is feces on porch due to sewerage leaks.

I think that baby was killed and that is all there is to it. Now to figure out where her body is and who did it. Hopefully it won't be another cold case. Bless her little heart.

 

[panthera]

Personal theory, either an accidental overdose, or potty accident, and fast cover up. Maybe the feces on the porch and blanket were from a potty issue, but I'm just not feeling that.
I'm more feeling that she was beaten for something else and put to bed, where she defecated on the blanket when she died of the beating. The neighbor would have heard someone either dropping her body or setting her down too hard when they transferred her into a different blanket for transport/disposal.

Or she was sick or ingested something, they might have just ignored it until it was too late.
Unless she was too scared to get out of bed, it isn't really typical for a 5 year old to poop the bed. (Of course, I am basing this on kids with well-balanced diets, and regular schedules, which we don't know that Shaniya had.)
I think it's a body hunt now, and probably has been since the beginning. I would happily be proven wrong, though.

(bolding mine)

That's why I was wondering when the last time somebody outside the family saw her. I'm more inclined to think though that it was a violent act that night and hence the cover up. MOO