NC - Shaniya Davis, 5, missing from her home 11/10/09 #4

[kiki the parrot]

I agree. I don't think the father is guilty of anything except poor judgment in allowing Shaniya to go live with her mother. And I'm sure right now he's grief stricken and blaming himself. MOO

TOTAL NIGHTMARE OMG... dad's just wishing he could wake up and it would all go away... keep dad in prayers tonight as well as Shaniya! rayer:

arrot:

 

[nnglas]

Very strange - I'll take a stab at deciphering it...

Is he saying that mom never put the girl in the living room - so maybe someone else did?

or

The little girl was probably not in the living room at all?

I wonder where she normally slept? She must have had a room - as opposed to sleeping with mom - cuz Coe doesn't make it sound like they were all in the same bed when he slept over.

It doesn't sound like she was there at all. Didn't the landlady say she didn't know the girl? Or am I getting that wrong? The dogs didn't pick up her scent outside which is really strange. I don't know. This whole case is weird and making my head hurt.

 

[panthera]

Might he be calling the mother out as a liar? Mom says she put Shaniya on the couch at 5:30 a.m., but Coe says Shaniya was never in the livingroom in all the time he spent there. I don't know. Strange thing to say.

It might be as simple as that. Maybe I was reading too much into his statement. He also says though that he wasn't at the mobile home when Shaniya disappeared, yet the two neighbors place him there shortly afterward ~ so when did he arrive? MOO

 

[mydailyopinions]

I'm educated but Coe's comment has me scratching my head. Maybe I'm trying to read too much into the words itself. "....never in the livingroom'? does that mean, never, ever in the livingroom? or never left in the livingroom to sleep? or what? So, the little girl was never in the livingroom in the daytime and never in the livingroom at night? What?:waitasec: I guess I'm not educated enough to figure this out. So, I'm thinking that he is saying that the little girl was not taken from the couch. IMO, not taken at all but given.

Makes me wonder when the last time anyone other than the mother seen this child. I can't help but think that possibly she has been gone for a while, way before she was reported missing..
Maybe it was coming up on dad's weekend to come see her and mom had to come up with something quick??????
Just thinking outloud here....:waitasec:

 

[CharlestonGal]

The Dad just decided to take the life that she had lived for three to four years and just hand her over to her mother she's never lived with till three weeks ago?How about the family,the home,the school and friends she's known for most of her life?It doesn't make sense that he wouldn't check out who the mother was with,what the home looked like and the friends,what was the lifestyle of the mother now?I can't imagine handing my child over to someone that I love and loves and needs me and our family.This makes no sense,something is off here.

Maybe he wanted some couple time with his fiancee? I know that sounds bad, but he may have thought sending Shaniya to her mother for a while would be good for the mother/daughter and also good for him/fiancee.

 

[winterrose]

I'm sorry,this has disturbed me so bad.I couldn't sleep last night since I saw this man take that child into that hotel room,couldn't get that imagine out of my mind.I was so hoping to wake up and hear he was in custody and the child was safe.

 

[butterfly1978]

I think what Coe MIGHT have been saying is that He can see neglect playing a role in this because she was never in the living room, meaning that she was somewhere else which probably means with someone else, and considering the fact that the dogs never picked up a scent at the trailor, maybe she was never there.

Sounds far fetched however, maybe the mom, gave shanya to Mcneil for drugs before Tuesday and people started asking questions so she came up with this story, and now Mcniel is like wait I didn't kidnap her, she was given to me

 

[nnglas]

I think the reason the father is not a POI is due to him being out of town at the time Shaniya disappeared.

That's probably true, but.....when did she disappear? No scent outside the trailer, her being seen at the hotel before she was supposedly missing. I don't know you guys. I'm starting think that something really strange is going on here.

 

[panthera]

The Dad just decided to take the life that she had lived for three to four years and just hand her over to her mother she's never lived with till three weeks ago?How about the family,the home,the school and friends she's known for most of her life?It doesn't make sense that he wouldn't check out who the mother was with,what the home looked like and the friends,what was the lifestyle of the mother now?I can't imagine handing my child over to someone that I love and loves and needs me and our family.This makes no sense,something is off here.

I wouldn't allow one of my pets to go live with someone else without first checking everything out! New house, new surroundings, new people ~ it's traumatic especially if there's a big difference between where you've been and where you're going. MOO

 

[CharlestonGal]

It might be as simple as that. Maybe I was reading too much into his statement. He also says though that he wasn't at the mobile home when Shaniya disappeared, yet the two neighbors place him there shortly afterward ~ so when did he arrive? MOO

I hope one of the news networks offers Coe many thousands of dollars for an interview. I think he might have some pretty illuminating things to say.

 

[lonetraveler]

Thanks so much for posting the article and link! It certainly clarifies a lot of questions ~ especially why the mother hasn't pleaded for Shaniya's return. At the same time though, why is the boyfriend so "upset" Shaniya was missing? This would also seem to take the "custody issue" out of the equation if dad had voluntarily let Shaniya live there. Just seeing the filth she was in he could at any time rescinded the deal. MOO :waitasec:

MOO, but I would say that Coe was upset for two reasons. 1. Shaniya was missing and 2. It was McNeill at the home with the mother, sister, baby and brother and Shaniya and not Coe. He was at his stepmothers.

 

[panthera]

I think what Coe MIGHT have been saying is that He can see neglect playing a role in this because she was never in the living room, meaning that she was somewhere else which probably means with someone else, and considering the fact that the dogs never picked up a scent at the trailor, maybe she was never there.

Sounds far fetched however, maybe the mom, gave shanya to Mcneil for drugs before Tuesday and people started asking questions so she came up with this story, and now Mcniel is like wait I didn't kidnap her, she was given to me

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(we're on the same page)

 

[kiki the parrot]

The Dad just decided to take the life that she had lived for three to four years and just hand her over to her mother she's never lived with till three weeks ago?How about the family,the home,the school and friends she's known for most of her life?It doesn't make sense that he wouldn't check out who the mother was with,what the home looked like and the friends,what was the lifestyle of the mother now?I can't imagine handing my child over to someone that I love and loves and needs me and our family.This makes no sense,something is off here.

I agree, it is hard to imagine any circumstances that could have allowed him to justify this in his own mind. The reason we heard mentioned is that Mom 'finally had a job and somewhere to live.' Maybe he'd always told Shaniya she couldn't live w her mom for that reason, then when she finally did get work and told him she had a place for Shaniya to stay he took the Mom's word for it and tried to give them some time together. Surely he realizes the shortsightedness and the recklessness of this now!

arrot:

 

[mayelf]

I could see a possible scenario that the living room was a place of enjoyment. IE drugs.

So Shaniya spends her time in the bedroom playing? Shaniya and the BM issue kind of comes up here I think. He says the mother was negligent. It is possible shel left out the back door near the bedrooms (assuming it is like most trailers) and went to throw away her blanket. Did the dogs search both entrances to the home? Did they check windows?

 

[panthera]

I hope one of the news networks offers Coe many thousands of dollars for an interview. I think he might have some pretty illuminating things to say.

Honestly I wish he would be given a forum to enlighten us because right now I'm trying to make some sense of all this and figure out where Shaniya might be right now.

 

[winterrose]

Maybe he wanted some couple time with his fiancee? I know that sounds bad, but he may have thought sending Shaniya to her mother for a while would be good for the mother/daughter and also good for him/fiancee.

Yep,it does sound bad.You get a babysitter,you don't take the child's whole life away and everything they know.If that's the reason,hopefully social services can step in and find a suitable relative for her,if she's found.

 

[kiki the parrot]

I wouldn't allow one of my pets to go live with someone else without first checking everything out! New house, new surroundings, new people ~ it's traumatic especially if there's a big difference between where you've been and where you're going. MOO

AGREE!!!! (I was trying to get inside dad's head there for a minute but this is the bottom line!!!)

arrot:

 

[nnglas]

I agree, it is hard to imagine any circumstances that could have allowed him to justify this in his own mind. The reason we heard mentioned is that Mom 'finally had a job and somewhere to live.' Maybe he'd always told Shaniya she couldn't live w her mom for that reason, then when she finally did get work and told him she had a place for Shaniya to stay he took the Mom's word for it and tried to give them some time together. Surely he realizes the shortsightedness and the recklessness of this now!

arrot:

Wasn't this woman involved in a drug raid not too long ago?

 

[mycroft]

Her father, Bradley Lockhart, was anxious Friday night to hear any news about his missing daughter as he waited in his Fayetteville home with friends and family members. He said his daughter had lived with him for the past three or four years. He let her live with her mother, Antoinette Davis, about three weeks ago because she had found a place to live and had held a job for six months, he said.

"I just wanted her to be a mother," he said. "She was never part of her life."

The girl's parents had never married.

Theresa Chance, a Fayetteville police spokeswoman, said Lockhart has been questioned and ruled out as a suspect.
http://www.fayobserver.com/Articles/2009/11/13/951920

This sheds a lot of light on things. I knew that there were custody issues, but I didn't know that it was on this scale. She didn't last three weeks.

Given this information, and the difference we perceive in the lifestyle depicted in the photos of Shaniya versus life in that trailer, I think this makes it quite likely that this was about Dad.

I wonder whether Shaniya was complaining about the conditions, particularly the crowding and the sewage situation. Kids that age can be very blunt in their observations and complaints. Did she say something to Dad over the phone that made them think that he was going to take her away?

The information someone posted about the neighbor seeing Coe visibly upset when she disappeared fits my earlier theory that Mom and Mario (and probably Aunt) never intended for LE to become involved, but that Coe's reaction to the disappearance may have forced Mom's hand into making the 911 call. Then Mario got word of it and fled the hotel.

Maybe mom hoped that Coe would think that the Bio Dad had taken Shaniya, and as an ex-con, would not seek out any involvement with LE.

 

[Money Girl]

McNeil's girlfriend's name is April Autry