NC - Shaniya Davis, 5, missing from her home 11/10/09 #4

[lonetraveler]

I agree, it is hard to imagine any circumstances that could have allowed him to justify this in his own mind. The reason we heard mentioned is that Mom 'finally had a job and somewhere to live.' Maybe he'd always told Shaniya she couldn't live w her mom for that reason, then when she finally did get work and told him she had a place for Shaniya to stay he took the Mom's word for it and tried to give them some time together. Surely he realizes the shortsightedness and the recklessness of this now!

arrot:

I want to know more about the custody fights and DCF involvement that went on prior to this happening. Maybe the mother (with her sister lying to the landlord) got the mobile home and somehow convinced DCF that she had a job and a home and the father was ordered to let the little girl return to her mother. Hate to even type this but could the father know McNeill. I know it sounds totally impossible but if he was desperate to get the little girl away from her mother...I'll just go back to thinking.

 

[seekjustice]

Since I can't seem to form complete thoughts any longer I'm out.
Praying for Shaniya's safety and quick return!

 

[Heroine]

I am trying to figure out why Shaniya's blanket was thrown in the neighbor's trash bin, if there wasn't anything sinister going on, then why didn't they just throw it in their own bin.

Also, I thought Marlania (sp?) Shavio on NG said they confirmed with Coe that he stayed @ his stepmother's house, and that McNeil was @ the home with the Mom, Sister, and the kids.

This case is driving me crazy! WHERE'S SHANIYA?

Okay, first of all, do we know who this guy who just got arrested is? Is he related to Shaniya?
Second of all I still don't understand why she put her on the couch? Did we ever figure that part out?
The reason I ask is because maybe Shaniya was in trouble with her mother over something she did, or didn't do for that matter and if that guy (Mario?) is indeed related to Shaniya maybe he just got tired of seeing her treated this way. Maybe he threw the blanket away because of the feces on the porch got on it and he might have thrown it into the neighbors can so it would'nt be found so soon, giving him time to get away with her. As for the clothes, he could have changed her clothes because he knew someone would be looking for her.
IMO Shaniya didn't seem afraid of him and seemed as though she knew this person well and possibly trusted him. Not to mention, he didn't put up much of a fight about being arrested. Maybe he doesn't feel like he did anything wrong because he felt she deserved better. This is all speculation of course, but I can only hope that my theory is true and she'll be found alive and well.

 

[nnglas]

This is where the theory of ransom pops into my head. It's the only way everyone "wins" in this scenario if they play their part. They needed the money, mom barely knows her daughter so they concoct a plan to extort some money from daddy?? Each player gets paid for their role. Thus McNeill can claim he didn't technically kidnap Shaniya...her mom gave her.

But wouldn't someone have to actual ask for ransom? I don't know, I saw a video of the spokesperson saying that she couldn't say that Shaniya is alive. That bothers me, it doesn't seem like they are looking for her, no more pleas to the public, no description of a car that McNeil was driving. Seems they may be focused more on the case against McNeil. There has got to be a reason for that. They are not telling the public anything else to help find Shaniya.:banghead:

 

[lonetraveler]

MAMc? I didn't see but is it referring to accused (Mario A McNeill)?
arrot:

Hate to even tell you this, but there was a comment with the photo on IS stating that the photo showed what Shaniya looks like now. Sick. Totally sick.

 

[not_my_kids]

Hate to even tell you this, but there was a comment with the photo on IS stating that the photo showed what Shaniya looks like now. Sick. Totally sick.

And here he said that it was him after a confrontation with a person we all know and love. It was to get a rise, that's all.

I am sure our mods have his/her IP and are handling it.

 

[seekjustice]

But wouldn't someone have to actual ask for ransom? I don't know, I saw a video of the spokesperson saying that she couldn't say that Shaniya is alive. That bothers me, it doesn't seem like they are looking for her, no more pleas to the public, no description of a car that McNeil was driving. Seems they may be focused more on the case against McNeil. There has got to be a reason for that. They are not telling the public anything else to help find Shaniya.:banghead:

Maybe the quick arrest of Coe threw the whole thing outta whack KWIM? It does bother me that there is no info being given to help find her but seems it's been that way from the beginning so I'm not sure it means they believe she's gone.

 

[bessie]

I agree. If he were to stop at a hotel I also don't think it would be a Comfort Suites JMO. Somebody with some money booked that room in advanced and awaited their arrival. I would imagine LE is combing through all reservations, checking names, credit card info, etc. I just can't imagine they would not have some good leads at this point.

Or, an employee (housekeeping, security) secured the room for the rendevouz, if one took place. If a child trafficking ring is involved --God forbid -- this motel might have been used previously. Perhaps it's the site of other illegal activities. OTOH, I would think those involved would be aware of surveillance cameras and know how to circumvent them.

I'd love to know how he was id'd from the video. From LE photos? Or, did LE question employees and someone fingered him?

Ugh...so many questions and my heart is breaking yet again for another beautiful little child.

I keep reading references to McN being the aunt's ex-bf, but at least one news report I read stated that he was not acquainted with the family or Coe.

 

[tfrohning]

I am wondering the same thing. Was Shaniya somewhere else (no scent picked up). Did she leave from another house. Just rambling,I thought for sure when I logged back in tonight little Shaniya would have been found safe.

Please come home safely!!!!

Thank You:waitasec: I kept thinking something I am not getting.
No scent that it.... she was not there.
I was reading to much and trying to keep up and was missing that statement.

We don't know if there was video of the park showing Shaniya was even there.

And at this time I not trusting the manager statement after the Coe's thing.

LE has never really confirm the last time Shaniya was seem at the MH.
Just what the mom said.
Wishing with all my heart that she safe.

 

[SuziQ]

So if mom hadn't been in this babys life then what was dcfs involvment and back and forth about? Points back at dad imo. Someone isn't telling the truth here.

 

[not_my_kids]

So if mom hadn't been in this babys life then what was dcfs involvment and back and forth about? Points back at dad imo. Someone isn't telling the truth here.

She had the other child...

 

[winterrose]

Okay,just watching NG now,missed it earlier.It was the Mom's sister's bf in the home that night,McNeil is the ex bf and wasn't in the MH.I wonder if it was the current bf who took her to McNeill?The neighbor said Coe was taking her in a car out of the MH,could have been the current bf of the Aunt,obviously mistaken to be Coe.Coe was at his mother's house that night,not the MH.

 

[tfrohning]

I was assuming that is how they got his name so quickly?

I thinking he never check in with Shaniya...maybe earlier

If he did check in there would be a videotape of him at the front desk.
I pretty sure there a camera at that front desk.
LE might be holding that video:banghead: but why:waitasec:

 

[nostoneunturned]

I feel she is gone, I had hope,until they arrested him. He has nothing to lose, if he was being a "friend" and placed her in a safe place if he tells that story. If he doesn't talk then he has a lot to hide.

 

[tfrohning]

I agree. If he were to stop at a hotel I also don't think it would be a Comfort Suites JMO. Somebody with some money booked that room in advanced and awaited their arrival. I would imagine LE is combing through all reservations, checking names, credit card info, etc. I just can't imagine they would not have some good leads at this point.

Good Point

That not a cheap hotel..so who ever booked the room are not use to low rates.

I stay in plenty... that late or early morning he would need a key card to even
get in.

all the ones I stay in had camera on all the floors.

 

[bessie]

If he checked into a room, management would know which one, and detectives would be all over it searching for evidence. In a high profile case, television cameras would be on the scene. Any local news broadcasting video of an investigation of an actual room at this Comfort Inn?

 

[tfrohning]

Or, an employee (housekeeping, security) secured the room for the rendevouz, if one took place. If a child trafficking ring is involved --God forbid -- this motel might have been used previously. Perhaps it's the site of other illegal activities. OTOH, I would think those involved would be aware of surveillance cameras and know how to circumvent them.

I'd love to know how he was id'd from the video. From LE photos? Or, did LE question employees and someone fingered him?

Ugh...so many questions and my heart is breaking yet again for another beautiful little child.

I keep reading references to McN being the aunt's ex-bf, but at least one news report I read stated that he was not acquainted with the family or Coe.

you guys are good.
I never thought about a employee secure the room.:waitasec:

 

[winterrose]

Looking at the years of the three vehicles of McNeil's someone posted last night,vehicles from the 90's,someone else might have been footing the bill.He might have been paid in advance or if it's a ransom or drug deal,payment comes later.Maybe he's afraid to tell who he handed her off to.People that have been in jail,knowing they're going back to jail either way are more afraid of who can hurt them in jail or thier family on the outside,than anything LE can do to them.KWIM
My mind doesn't even want to go why he's not telling where she is,if it's not this scenario.

 

[bessie]

Looking at the years of the three vehicles of McNeil's someone posted last night,vehicles from the 90's,someone else might have been footing the bill.He might have been paid in advance or if it's a ransom or drug deal,payment comes later.Maybe he's afraid to tell who he handed her off to.People that have been in jail,knowing they're going back to jail either way are more afraid of who can hurt them in jail or thier family on the outside,than anything LE can do to them.KWIM
My mind doesn't even want to go why he's not telling where she is,if it's not this scenario.

ITA with the bolded part. I was just going to post same.

Would it be considered uncharacteristic for a predator to take a child victim to a motel room? IMO, yes, but I dunno...

 

[mayelf]

I thinking he never check in with Shaniya...maybe earlier

If he did check in there would be a videotape of him at the front desk.
I pretty sure there a camera at that front desk.
LE might be holding that video:banghead: but why:waitasec:

Well think about this maybe?

The police told the press that he checked in Tuesday morning to the hotel and checked out before they got there. Which they also have not commented on what time they arrived there or when it was noted he checked out. The search for the new suspect, Mario Mcneill came out on Thursday the 12th "The Fayetteville Police Department announced Thursday night that the missing 5-year-old Fayetteville girl has been spotted. "

Mario Mcneill and Shaniya could have been in that hotel as far as we know from Tuesday morning until Thursday. I believe the police did not search for an unidentified male when they spotted him on camera which makes me think that he used his name to check into the hotel.

Sidenote : The reason they found the hotel was because the clerk saw pictures of Shaniya in the news, which would have taken time for her to see and report it and for the LE to get the clue and follow up on it...etc..

Now, it is 6:10 in the morning and they check into the hotel. He only went about 30-40 minutes away from the girls home. His own home is very close to Shaniya's home.

If he was kidnapping the child for his own gain (not money gain) - I honestly believe - he would have kept driving out of the state.