GUILTY NC - Teghan Skiba, 4, Smithfield, 19 July 2010 #3

[La Louve]

j had no experience with children and had never watched a child for extended period of time. just watched T for a few hours at a time.

And in those few hours when he watched her previously, she ended up with a black eye, bruises, and being photographed drinking beer. UGH

I have to honestly wonder if the DT isn't setting the monster up for an appeal based on inadequate defense.

Rest in Peace sweet Teghan. Justice is coming!

 

[Chelly]

that onus is on Helen and she will have her day.:twocents:

Looking forward to that too.

 

[Tssiemer]

no: defense will keep going with their legal stuff after lunch than prosecution is up again (they split their closing so they have the last word)

Well... I feel pretty confident the defense hung JR for us. Is this a capitol murder case?

 

[nursebeeme]

prosecution is very smart to split their closing. I hope they hone in on that utter bunk that defense was saying about the vaginal and anal injuries! :burn:

 

[nursebeeme]

Well... I feel pretty confident the defense hung JR for us. Is this a capitol murder case?

yes it is

 

[nursebeeme]

And in those few hours when he watched her before she ended up with a black eye, bruises, and being photographed drinking beer. UGH

I have to honestly wonder if the DT isn't setting the monster up for an appeal based on inadequate defense.

Rest in Peace sweet Teghan. Justice is coming!

he doesn't have a defense.. no matter who would argue it for him imhoo.:twocents:

his best bet would have been to plead guilty but he wanted to hop on the trial train and now here we are :-(

 

[joe jones]

I think it is the professional responsibility and the legal duty for an attorney no matter which side they are on to do the absolute best job for there client, no matter what the client may be charged with,

if this is what he wants his defence to be then this is what the defence atty has to argue,

I would rather it was a good professional job done by all which means one trial only than for there to be appellate issues that may succeed in the future, and then once again the family and the people who knew and loved Teghan has to hear all the dreadful, horrifying things she was subjected to,

the state has done a good job in reaching BARD in my opinion, the defence has provided him with a defence that he is entitled to under the law,

the jury will make the ultimate choice on guilty or not, I have faith that he will be found guilty and will never be free again to torture and murder another child,

 

[nursebeeme]

the only inroads I think the Def. atty made in his closing was his attempt to impeach HR's testimony for the state.... (re: her motivation for doing so as it is clear she knew what was going on before she left)

with that being said, the entire thing could have been in the bag WITHOUT her testimony imhoo. The forensics say it all. :twocents:

 

[nursebeeme]

oh and as for there being a "break" in the sequence of abuse events by him going to buy bandages... that was an epic fail.. I do not think he showed any break in the sequence of events and perhaps even made it longer with his HR bit :twocents:

do we know if J had any injuries (like T bit him or scratched him?).. the bandages well could have been for his own self. Was there any evidence of said bandages being on t when he took her in to the ER? I hope the PA points this out

 

[borndem]

Let's admit it folks. This defense atty has nothing to work with. He's stuck with this job. They have no case.What I can't figure out is why JR and defense team wanted a jury trial? Anyone know?

They didn't want him to have to wear those red, i.e., Death Row, colored overalls and they didn't want him to get, ahem, that NEEDLE.

That's why we're all going through this horror. For that esso-bee.

 

[cemmy]

prosecution is very smart to split their closing. I hope they hone in on that utter bunk that defense was saying about the vaginal and anal injuries! :burn:

I was watching but I could barely hear (couldn't have it too loud since I'm at work.) Could you tell me what the defense said in this instance?

 

[nursebeeme]

I was watching but I could barely hear (couldn't have it too loud since I'm at work.) Could you tell me what the defense said in this instance?

hi cemmy, if you read back thru the thread I transcribed to the best of my ability transcription is in italics

DT basically said that his expert showed that the vaginal, labial, and anal injuries were less severe than the other injuries so they signaled that they were not of a sexual intent or nature! FOR REAL HE SAID THAT! :burn:

eta: he never went near the missing nipple with that being said! (defense atty)

further eta: the jury saw the pictures... so I am not worried about the DT piece on that

 

[CrazytownUSA]

I think it is the professional responsibility and the legal duty for an attorney no matter which side they are on to do the absolute best job for there client, no matter what the client may be charged with,

if this is what he wants his defence to be then this is what the defence atty has to argue,

I would rather it was a good professional job done by all which means one trial only than for there to be appellate issues that may succeed in the future, and then once again the family and the people who knew and loved Teghan has to hear all the dreadful, horrifying things she was subjected to,

the state has done a good job in reaching BARD in my opinion, the defence has provided him with a defence that he is entitled to under the law,

the jury will make the ultimate choice on guilty or not, I have faith that he will be found guilty and will never be free again to torture and murder another child,

I agree, and yes... they have to be very careful. The fact that the MONSTER Joshua Stepp is supposedly getting a new trial has burned me up :banghead: He should have gotten the DP. (For those not familiar, this was another local case... he abused, sexually assaulted and subsequently killed his 10 month old stepdaughter Cheyenne Yarley... His defense was that she received the "sexual" damage while he was changing her diaper. I couldn't at the time understand how the defense team even thought that was a realistic defense... but that's the one he used and they had a job to do. Sometimes it's easy to forget that, especially during these highly emotional, heinous trials.

 

[gracielee]

when HR left she had other options and she could have stayed with HR's mother or with the Skiba's but claimed she wasn't getting along with any of them. she called a friend and the friend said no. she called the military to say she couldn't go and they threaten courts marshall.. JR volunteered to take her

As far as I know, the military case on Helen is still open. Let's hope she lied here, under oath, and the military can use that against her. I believe I read somewhere that her 'care plan' with the military had been filed and JR was NOT a part of that care plan for Teghan.

 

[gracielee]

Off topic update, I'm hearing on my local news *Flight 370 passenger's relative: 'All lives are lost'*

http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/24/world/asia/malaysia-airlines-plane/

 

[joe jones]

http://nclawyersweekly.com/2014/01/21/new-trial-for-man-who-killed-stepdaughter/

this is an article on Stepps reversal,

I think the jury should get all the facts, even if the facts weigh in favour of the defence, the idea that one could argue that Cheyenne's injuries were caused by rough nappy changing and not sexual abuse flies in the face of logic considering her other injuries, but if the law states one can argue that point then the jury should have heard it,

it is highly likely they would have convicted Stepps even if the defence had been able to make this argument

 

[zoey]

Off topic update, I'm hearing on my local news *Flight 370 passenger's relative: 'All lives are lost'*

http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/24/world/asia/malaysia-airlines-plane/

yes you are hearing correct...however, they do use the word "assume"

 

[CrazytownUSA]

http://nclawyersweekly.com/2014/01/21/new-trial-for-man-who-killed-stepdaughter/

this is an article on Stepps reversal,

I think the jury should get all the facts, even if the facts weigh in favour of the defence, the idea that one could argue that Cheyenne's injuries were caused by rough nappy changing and not sexual abuse flies in the face of logic considering her other injuries, but if the law states one can argue that point then the jury should have heard it,

it is highly likely they would have convicted Stepps even if the defence had been able to make this argument

I agree. He would have been convicted either way. They all acknowledged that he killed her. It's a waste of taxpayer money to go through that again.

 

[borndem]

I hope this attorney goes home and listens to this later and feels ridiculous. I need a shower after listening to this.

I would imagine that the def. atty feels the same way. But the US Constitution says that the defendant is entitled to a fair trial, and that's what he has to try to do, no matter whether he wants to or not. Both def attys are prolly sick of seeing & having to deal with this monster. They know things about him, I'll bet, that we don't and that we don't wanna know. Can you imagine being in a cell with this guy and talking to him about how to defend him? Ewwwwww. Sick flippin' monster. I feel sorry for them. JR is The worst of the worst.

 

[borndem]

J's mom hired a hitman and she had strange and bizarre behavior

Talk about a bad seed -- he got it from both sides. BUT....