NC - Zahra Clare Baker, 10, Hickory, 9 Oct 2010 - #12

[Breathe]

But it would have stunk to high heaven! Pretty sure the landlord would have noticed it don't you?

I'm sure she told the neighbor's that she was growing it for "medicinal purposes" due to her bouts with cancer and all. (Snort)

 

[sadnpod]

OMG.. I am finally caught up...

O/T My son in heart came back from Iraq two weeks ago... his homecoming was one of the most touching events I have ever witnessed. SO GLAD he is home!!!! My thoughts are with all of you who have loved ones serving...

Now back to Zahra. I cant seem to make myself go back to find the video of the bed being taken out, but the pic of the mattress looks like it has leaves or something at the bottom left corner under the plastic... my eyes are terrible.. did anyone else notice? Maybe they are some kind of stains?

 

[pudd]

None of this makes sense. Maybe it would to someone not-so-bright, in a druggie haze...??

Somehow I think "thinking" and "good choices" were rare in that household.

 

[darnudes]

http://www2.hickoryrecord.com/news/2010/oct/16/waiting-news-hard-grandmother-family-australia-ar-460842/

HICKORY --
The investigation into the disappearance of Zahra Clare Baker is taking its toll on her family in Australia.

Zahra’s grandmother, Karen Baker, who lives in Newcastle, New South Wales, said the media circus outside her home was pushing the family to the breaking point, according to the Townsville Bulletin, published near Giru, Queensland, the town where Zahra spent much of her life.

Thank you Paintr, I had checked the Bulletin a while ago and nothing. So the Bakers moved back to Newcastle, okay.

I can only imagine the media is making their life misery. However the Aus media are not going to let them have any peace now that they have found them, until they make a statement or give an interview.

A Currant Affair --- here we come --- I don't think it will be long guys.

 

[Moonlit]

I'm sure she told the neighbor's that she was growing it for "medicinal purposes" due to her bouts with cancer and all. (Snort):loser:

LOL I probably just woke up my kids. HEHEHE

 

[Nana46]

^ no he does not look goth at all, def bogan. He may have been influenced by EB to take on some of the characteristics / beliefs don't you think?

Can't wait to use all these new words...bogan,lol...thank you for the def also!!!

 

[AbbieNormal]

correct me if I am wrong Abbie, but in a situation when a public health covered patient who was also a minor came in and it was noted that tehre were "special needs" such as hearing aid and prosthetic, wouldn't a social worker or advocate affiliated with the treating hospital be automatically assigned to visit the child (and Parents actually) in hospital and assess ongoing needs?

Maybe I am off, but when I was on Public aid health coverage during a pregnancy, I rememer a social worker stopping in to "check up" on my needs and had a mandatory home visit to check on me and my son.

Yes ti, in fact some hospitals might even have a social worker or nurse make at very minimum one home visit to be sure she was able to function in the home w/ 2 kinds of aides- leg and hearing aides- and probably an occupational therapist also. I used to work for a home health department, asses them when they came in for nursing needs, make referrals as needed to OT, PT, SW, etc, then arrange care plan for in hospital stay which would include needs upon discharge, and everything required follow up and care plans that had to be followed. Each discipline would have to do their initial visit, ongoing care if needed, and would not discharge the patient from their services until the stated goals were met. Every hospital that's accredited must follow that plan of care. I just can't even imagine not following it to its natural completion, its unheard of in my world.

 

[Wise Old Owl]

I do believe the drugs were taking over every aspect of both their lives. The downward spiral was quite obvious and getting out of control.

Maybe Zahra getting older had told them that she was going to tell someone about the drug use?

No, they were afraid of someone finding out. Someone that wouldn't have believe them if they said Zahra went back to Australia. We just have to figure out WHO that someone was. I don't think it was DCS - they would have accepted the back to Australia excuse - maybe. Who were they afraid of?

 

[pudd]

LOL I probably just woke up my kids. HEHEHE

As well as "thanks", we need buttons for "lol" and "no way!" and "ffs..."

 

[darnudes]

This has only just gone up

http://www.townsvillebulletin.com.au/article/2010/10/16/177731_news.html

 

[sadnpod]

My thoughts on the "ransom note" I think they planted it and called the fire department thinking LE WOULD check on the kid in the house and find her missing then, so they could make it look like they took Zahra by accident. kwim? When LE didnt check on Zahra and instead asked the landlord, I think it went kaput.

I dont understand why the landlord would have been there at that time unless LE had contacted them about the fire, or maybe dad did?

Its late here loves, any of this making sense?

 

[darnudes]

But Zahra's grandmother Karen Baker was still hopeful, telling the Townsville Bulletin yesterday the family was exhausted, and had little or no sleep over the past five days, waiting on news that Zahra had been found.

Mrs Baker said her plea in the Bulletin on Thursday for southern and overseas media to respect the family's privacy and leave them alone had thankfully been heeded, with reporters leaving their posts outside the family home where they had set up camp for the past week.

She said the family had received no further news from US police, with the Hickory Police Department clamping down on media statements due to the amount of "misinformation" being reported.

In particular, she targeted reports that her son Adam Baker had been "unco-operative" with police.

"Adam has been totally co-operative with the police investigation," she said.

"He is just in emotional shutdown - he just wants to find his daughter."

http://www.townsvillebulletin.com.au/article/2010/10/16/177731_news.html

She taking lessons from the Anthony's?

 

[Nosee_Parker]

It's sad, and I feel very sorry for her, but I've seen nothing in our Aussie msm about it except stuff that's come of the AAP newswire from the US. Other Aussies, have you seen anything? I expect New Idea etc will be on it as soon as they can, but.....

Nothing. There is one thing that concerns me - if AB is 'cleared' of any wrong doing he will come back here and make money via exclusive interviews. If it's not him, my guess is family members here in Australia will grant interviews for $$$. No matter how decent we may think his family are, you wait, if there's a big fat cheque waved under their nose, they will spill. Makes me sick to be honest that people stoop that low. I also wouldn't be surprised if the bio Mum comes out of the woodwork and tells (sells *ahem*) her 'story'.

 

[ilovemew]

Probably not, but if they were there arguing about threats that EB made to BB she (BB) could easily say to the court "and you should go and check on Zahra" at which point EB/AB would be in trouble. So they acted first to make it look like a kidnapping gone wrong?

Sorry but I'm confused (big surprise LOL). Who is BB and what court date? TIA

 

[Tikki]

I do believe the drugs were taking over every aspect of both their lives. The downward spiral was quite obvious and getting out of control.

Maybe Zahra getting older had told them that she was going to tell someone about the drug use?

No, they were afraid of someone finding out. Someone that wouldn't have believe them if they said Zahra went back to Australia. We just have to figure out WHO that someone was. I don't think it was DCS - they would have accepted the back to Australia excuse - maybe. Who were they afraid of?

BBM

Agree, the downward spiral from the "parents" (ugh) pictures is so obvious, well EB at least, haven't seen as many of him.

And there was such a lively intelligent spark in Zahra's eyes.

I think this is the right track...

 

[Nosee_Parker]

Can't wait to use all these new words...bogan,lol...thank you for the def also!!!

Oddly enough, I said to my husband yesterday I think they are just bogans.

 

[Paulette]

Wonder if this could be a reason they came to the US? To get "under the radar"?

I took a look at the town he came from. Population less than 400 people. He worked in a sugar mill. They probably lived w/his parents.

"Let's blow this 2-bit town & go to NC, where the streets are paved with gold!"

:waitasec: Oops! Wrong life.

 

[AbbieNormal]

^ no he does not look goth at all, def bogan. He may have been influenced by EB to take on some of the characteristics / beliefs don't you think?

Yikes- the "reluctant goth father", the stepmother who is so unhinged she beats a 9 year old kid who has a prosthetic leg and hearing aides in such a frenzy she hurts herself when she hits the prosthetic leg. What an image!

Also I imagine the visual of them in the parking lot arguing, what did neighbor say-they ran AT each other but did not get physical? Reminds me of a video of two grizzy bears running at each other and stopping short of physical violence I just had to endure on a hunting program my husband had on TV. Why didn't they call the police, at any point? Why didn't Jean Casares ask the lady what they were saying when they were fighting??.

 

[darnudes]

They said on NG they lived there from July '09 to November '09.

Thanks, not that I'm an expert on this stuff but I don't know if that is long enough to grow stuff without all the high tech expensive gear and it doesn't seem like they had access to that sort of money.

 

[pudd]

My thoughts on the "ransom note" I think they planted it and called the fire department thinking LE WOULD check on the kid in the house and find her missing then, so they could make it look like they took Zahra by accident. kwim? When LE didnt check on Zahra and instead asked the landlord, I think it went kaput.

I dont understand why the landlord would have been there at that time unless LE had contacted them about the fire, or maybe dad did?

Its late here loves, any of this making sense?

I guess the landlord was called because wasn't he also AB's boss? Hence the person the "ransom note" was addressed to?