NC - Zahra Clare Baker, 10, Hickory, 9 Oct 2010 - #18

[Blue Ridge]

You are correct, that is exactly what she said. The last 3 places they haved lived dumps garbage there. So we are now talking about 6+ weeks ago unless AB/EB took something there themselves.

I am still thinking she died 2 weeks or less before she was reported missing (because I believe the sighting of Zahra by the furniture store lady at this point)....at which time probably the leg was taken to a dumpster somewhere by night and pitched in....either a restaurant or business dumpster, or one at their former residence (very possibly the trailer park they were seen in after dark w/o Zahra and the timeline seems to fit for that too)....JMO

 

[Meagain]

Gah - It never occurred to me the leg could also be the murder weapon.
Oh NG will be a good show tonight.

 

[ella971]

Patty Thank you for being our Mom! Hugs.

 

[NoeticSoul]

I bet LE had a field day looking at all her sites on computer...........:sick:

Bet so... I doubt they would have had the time or forethought to clear every cache in every browser and in every program they ran. Even if they did, that's what computer forensics is for, thank goodness. I'm sure that they didn't take the time to trash the hard drives either since they both seem one chicken leg short of a picnic. :crazy: OR high, take your pick.

 

[westsidefox64]

I think Adam has had some inconsistencies too!! :banghead:

Eight hours later on the morning of Oct. 10, Adam Baker, 33, made a second 911 call to report his daughter was missing, police said.

"Hey, how are you doing? I need police," a seemingly calm Adam Baker said to one dispatcher, before he was transferred to a second dispatcher, who took down his information.

On a recording of the second call obtained by ABC News, Adam Baker said that the last time he saw his daughter was at 2:30 that Saturday morning. But two days later on "Good Morning America," Adam Baker said that because of his work schedule, he hadn't seen the girl since Thursday. The girl's stepmother, Elisa Baker, was the last one to see her alive at 2:30 a.m. on Saturday, Adam Baker said.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/zahra-bake...nce-north-carolina-landfill/story?id=11926357

IIRC what he said was the last time he had seen Zahra out of her bed was on thursday. I think this was taken out of context.

 

[pufnstuf]

My opinion is that AB is at the very least an accessory after the fact. He knows what happened to his daughter. And that makes him a despicable person in my opinion.

 

[tehcloser]

IIRC what he said was the last time he had seen Zahra out of her bed was on thursday. I think this was taken out of context.

"OUT OF HER BED"....I don't remember that. :waitasec:

 

[Patty G]

IIRC what he said was the last time he had seen Zahra out of her bed was on thursday. I think this was taken out of context.

Out of her bed? Can you find that info for us please. Thanks.

 

[Blue Ridge]

IIRC what he said was the last time he had seen Zahra out of her bed was on thursday. I think this was taken out of context.

And then there was that interview where he said he last saw her "Tuesday" (or it slipped out??) and then the reporter "corrected" him and asked something like "didn't you mean Thursday?" and he then looks embarassed and agrees, oh yeah it was Thursday. (I'm paraphrasing because I don't have the link in front of me but it was posted here many threads ago).

 

[Dear Prudence]

Out of her bed? Can you find that info for us please. Thanks.

It was in his first interview with GMA.

Here it is http://www.wsoctv.com/video/25360091/index.html

He says:He says "100%? Genuinely saw my daughter? Out of bed? Would have been Tuesday." The reporter later says you did mean Thursday right?

 

[Kat]

On the 911 tape he said "we checked in there about 2:30 and she was there"

He said "we". Can take that one of two ways. 1. He actually was part of the we that checked in there. or 2. he uses the word we to speak about himself or his wife in the context of their home or marriage, and he's relating what EB told him she did.

Weird IMHO.

I don't remember his exact words but on NG they are reporting that he last saw her the Thursday prior to her missing.

Which is it? JMHO.

 

[Kat]

I have to run errands this afternoon. I'll be signing off in a few.

Now might be a good time to go and get transcripts of his interviews in which he is speaking and start comparing them to see if any inconsistancies pop up.

I don't have time right now I'm sorry.

 

[Kamille]

It was in his first interview with GMA.

Or perhaps it was the raw interview outside with a reporter? He also said in that raw interview that he thought he had seen her in her bed on the Friday night. Could that be the 2:30 am sighting?

 

[imamaze]

Okay Patty, tell me what to do. The comments were made last night, two of them. They have since been deleted. They comments were made in the public FB page love 4 Zahra. I have the comments saved.

Do I need to go back and edit previous posts or can I say "allegedly" the grandmother and brother are on their way over? Sorry, but I'm really confused on this one.

Hi darnudes,

I'm checking on this. You have a good question, and I'm confused as well, lol.

 

[Moonlit]

I've thought and thought, and the ONLY way I could come up with to explain away the bizarre AB 911 call (and this is is a BIG leap for me, because I DO feel he is involved) is this:

He knows he has a cold, mean, evil beach of a wife, he knows she abuses his daughter, but THAT afternoon he knew something was going on, he just did not know what. He swallows whatever line of BS EB feeds him, convincing him of the kidnapping and he makes the call. He's extremely nervous because he knows she's done something with/to Zahra, but never had the notion she would actually kill her.

When LE comes and starts the investigation he realizes just how deep it is and he's right in the middle of it. Now it's too late to tell the truth because he allowed his daughter to be abused by this woman, and now she has done something with her and convinced him to lie about it, so he has to continue the lies as well.

This is not what I think happened, just the only scenario I can think of not involving AB in the actual disappearance.

 

[cleo612]

At this moment, I do not believe Adam had anything to do with the disappearance of his daughter.

IMO, I feel that the ruse that Elisa setup with regards to the fire failed and she had to come up with another story upon Adam's return from looking for a job or going to work.

Perhaps Elisa felt that once she started the fire in the back yard, and wrote the note, she may have figured that the police would go inside her home to check the house and make sure it was secure and they would then see Zahra was missing.

At that point, the scenario of "they" took the wrong child would come forward. Since that didn't happen and perhaps Adam at some point during the day, would want to see Zarah and go into her room, Elisa had to come up with another plan, of which, was Elisa coming out of the house screaming that Zahra was gone upon Adam's return.

I feel the dog didn't bark with the onset of the fire as the dog knows Elisa, however, a little tantalizing of the dog would make the dog bark and wake up Adam.

Elisa had plenty of time from the moment Adam left to go look for work or go to work to go anywhere to dispose of "articles" of Zahra.

At times I dismiss all the "chatter" from relatives about beatings, and then I put them back in my thoughts in order to come up with a reason for Zahra missing and why she is missing.

I feel Adam is a very gullible man and was fed a lot of "poop" especially about the onset of Zahra going into puberty. A man hasn't got a clue when a female is starting puberty and what they may act on while in the process of puberty. However a woman would know and Elisa probably told Adam the reason why Zahra is in her room etc., due to her attitude, puberty, etc., etc.

I also feel when Adam mention the puberty statement is because he only just recently heard it and his chuckle was a form of embarrassment because he realized he made that statement.

Now, I wish I had a clue why sweet, precious Zahra is missing. I feel though that Zarah may have been sleeping when this happened, and was not aware of anyone coming into her room.

I agree with your take on things, Patty G.

I think, though, that little Zahra was already dead and out of that house when Adam got home from work at 11:30pm Friday night.

I think that EB killed her during the day/evening, waited until dark to remove her body, and then disposed of her. She went back home and cleaned up whatever mess there might have been, and waited for Adam to get home.

Once he got home and settled in to sleep for the night, EB went outside, started a fire, burned any/all incriminating clothing in the fire, and THEN set to annoying the dogs enough to awaken Adam. Heck, she could have even just played with the dogs enough to get them barking excitedly as some dogs are wont to do when they are excited and in a playful mood.

Prior to that Friday night, I think that EB fed Adam a bunch of lines in trying to explain away the reasons why Zahra was spending so much time in her room. I am sure that (1) either Zahra stayed in her room to avoid EB, (2) EB was punishing Zahra and/or had caused bruises/black eyes that she didn't want Adam to see, and/or (3) EB was so jealous of Adam's attention to Zahra that this was the only way that she could keep Adam and Zahra apart.

I find it interesting/intriguing that Adam did not show up to the court hearing. He must have washed his hands of her after having heard all the stories from EB's family as to her treatment of Zahra.

I also find it interesting/intriguing that AF stated in court that EB had told her the day before her arrest that she (EB) wanted to leave the state. This on the heels of a child in her own home having gone missing less than 24 hours prior. EB's desire to take flight screams guilty conscience to me in a major way.

 

[westsidefox64]

It was in a video interview on GMA. I went to the library yesterday and watched the videos as I have dial up here at home. I hate to link without being able to watch it to make sure its the one im talking about. Do I need to delete?

 

[Beagle]

Hi folks, I must firstly apologise for my sudden disappearance, my computer decided it needed to restart in the middle of listening to the 911 call and then didn't want to let me back on. Need a new hard disk.

Anyway the answer is ........... OUT ..... he is saying out of her room.

Now can someone please give me a quick catch up as I am now a thread behind and so many pages.

Did they find anything with the search?

Is there anymore of this UK fellow?

I absolutely loved the bail going UP that was a classic.

My apologies again to all.

 

[shefner]

The lead policeman in the case, Sheriff John McDevitt, told ABC news that he doesn't believe what Adam Baker has told them and he's not sure that his concern for his daughter is genuine. "I don't know how sincere his concern is..." McDevitt said. When asked whether he believed Adam's claims, McDevitt responded, "I don't."


http://news.ninemsn.com.au/world/8106324/zahras-dad-uncooperative

 

[MandyLeigh]

Ok i have caught up, thank you everyone for keeping us updated. The presser and new reports are so interesting.

What I find most interesting is EB telling her daughter that she wants to leave the state the day before she was arrested. I wish I could hug that poor girl and thank her for being brave enough to go to court and try to keep EB locked up. I can only imagine the seething going on in EB's jail cell. She was so close to getting out and the door was slammed in her face.

I do hope the gentlemen who has been sending her money finally gets the true story about her. I can imagine she lied like a rug to that man to get his money. 10 grand yikes!