NC - Zahra Clare Baker, 10, Hickory, 9 Oct 2010 - #19

[Kat]

Just a thought, but could the $10000 have been a payment for little Zahra. Could she now be in London? Maybe the guy threatened EB with her life or she is too frightened to admit she sold Zahra for drug money.

3 passports with paperwork were found (search warrant page 6) I am assuming one of those passports and one set of paperwork was Zahra's.

Without a passport how did Zahra get to London?

Who escorted her? She's too young to fly alone. She has distinct disabilities, someone would have recognized her before/during/after flight?

Just some thoughts.


ETA: Welcome to WS Laddsey

 

[tlcya]

The daughter of EB testified that the londoner had sent EB $10,000 over the last year or so. I am not sure I even believe there is a Londoner. We all have seen on social sites belonging to EB how much liberty she tends to take with the truth, sometimes telling out and out lies (brain cancer comes to mind)

If there was a Londoner sending her money I doubt it was that much over the course of a year, EB daughter would probably have been given this info by EB and back we go to her tendency to lie.

 

[Curious Me]

OT maybe - I need to see decent, loving mothers like Diena Thompson on JVM right now that loved her child while she was alive. There's been so many strong mothers and fathers who have been placed in a nightmare, and will be a force in changing the justice system.

 

[pudd]

Has the name of the mystery Londoner suitor come out yet??

I don't think so - Darnudes was working on it yesterday but given he's not a suspect (?) she may not be able to post her findings. Or maybe she's still working on it?

ETA: wasn't it Kara (?)/Karl/Carlisle F or P or F?

 

[DLT88]

Just got done feeding the family dinner and alot seems to have happened onthread in the few hours since I last check in on this case.

So EB is being courted by DP laywer and now reported in MSM that LE believes Zahra never slept in the bed they removed from her room.

Anything else I should know?

Really? I hadn't heard that about LE not believing Zahra ever slept in that bed. The mattress is the place of the crime then. No wonder they are looking for mattresses. I saw that burned one they were looking at. Since EB apparently likes using fire to get rid of evidence, I suppose she could have taken that mattress off somewhere and burned it before disposing of it.

 

[tlcya]

Why? Can I ask why you thought it would be pulled??

I do not pretend to know why but IME on cases I have followed on WS in the past, the peripheral players and associates pages always end up being pulled during this stage of investigation.

I honestly do not know if it is caused by complaints of members, of investigators initiate it or why. But I have noticed a trend.

 

[westsidefox64]

I'm behind -- where did the hair death band convo. come from? Was something reported in the media that I missed?

It was mentioned that if they found a mattress they could look a death hair . I didnt know what that was and asked. the rest is just people answering my questions...NO DEATH HAIR BANDS FOUND!!!

 

[tlcya]

Really? I hadn't heard that about LE not believing Zahra ever slept in that bed. The mattress is the place of the crime then. No wonder they are looking for mattresses. I saw that burned one they were looking at. Since EB apparently likes using fire to get rid of evidence, I suppose she could have taken that mattress off somewhere and burned it before disposing of it.

dont know if LE said that but reporter implied it.

 

[Kat]

When I left earlier today there were a couple of questions being bounced around.

I read to catch up and I didn't see them answered. Are we to assume they are still "rumors'?

1. The foul smell reported near a woman's home. Was it ruled out as sewer gas? Did anyone find a MSM article or vid to support that?

2. AB. Was he gone from Thursday to Saturday the week that Zahra went missing? Did anyone find a MSM article or vid to support that?

Thanks in advance for answering. I might have missed the supporting links.

As always JMHO.

 

[Pondering Mind]

I don't think so - Darnudes was working on it yesterday but given he's not a suspect (?) she may not be able to post her findings. Or maybe she's still working on it?

ETA: wasn't it Kara (?)/Karl/Carlisle F or P or F?

It was something like that..I could have sworn I read it in an article from mainstream media, but I can't find it now..I'll keep looking.

 

[pudd]

I do not pretend to know why but IME on cases I have followed on WS in the past, the peripheral players and associates pages always end up being pulled during this stage of investigation.

I honestly do not know if it is caused by complaints of members, of investigators initiate it or why. But I have noticed a trend.

Given the unseemly and possibly slanderous/libellous (?) postings there, I wouldn't be surprised if the person who set up the site removed it. Waaaay too much bad feeling going on there.

 

[pudd]

It was something like that..I could have sworn I read it in an article from mainstream media, but I can't find it now..I'll keep looking.

In the video where EB's daughter A was being questioned in court, she says it then, but I had a hard time figuring out her accent :blushing: I'll see if I can find the link....

ETA: argh, am at "werk" and need to go to a meeting. Will try and find it when I get back unless someone is faster!

 

[Curious Me]

I think this is all about the murder of a little girl when LE calls it that and now a DP qualified defense attorney is visiting EB. Zahra was not whisked away or sold, IMO. Zahra was murdered.

Now, if only LE could find more evidence. I pray they find Zahra. She deserves a beautiful resting place.

 

[Pondering Mind]

snipped~
Bellas didn't spell out the nature of Elisa Baker's new online relationship. But Fairchild identified the London man her mother was communicating with as Kara Fullman, and said the man has sent Baker $10,000 over the past year until very recently. She didn't describe why the man would send her mother money.

Read more: http://www.newsobserver.com/2010/10/21/750071/police-release-911-tape-reporting.html#ixzz132aYapMO

 

[SherlockHomey]

Love 4 Zahra Baker Facebook page has been pulled.

What? Why?

 

[tlcya]

When I left earlier today there were a couple of questions being bounced around.

I read to catch up and I didn't see them answered. Are we to assume they are still "rumors'?

1. The foul smell reported near a woman's home. Was it ruled out as sewer gas? Did anyone find a MSM article or vid to support that?

2. AB. Was he gone from Thursday to Saturday the week that Zahra went missing? Did anyone find a MSM article or vid to support that?

Thanks in advance for answering. I might have missed the supporting links.

As always JMHO.

as to 1, I do not know yet, I said I would look for the supporting links tonite but just recently finished dinner and now just returned from picking FIL up from ER. I am determined to find it tho.

as to 2 it has been reported both ways in MSM sources. (unless those have mysteriously disappeared or been editted out at this point as well)

 

[NoeticSoul]

snipped~
Bellas didn't spell out the nature of Elisa Baker's new online relationship. But Fairchild identified the London man her mother was communicating with as Kara Fullman, and said the man has sent Baker $10,000 over the past year until very recently. She didn't describe why the man would send her mother money.

Read more: http://www.newsobserver.com/2010/10/21/750071/police-release-911-tape-reporting.html#ixzz132aYapMO

I'm curious as to why the man recently stopped sending her money.

 

[Kat]

Poor guy.

Now his name is in MSM, and he can be victimized again and again. Lordy.

 

[Pondering Mind]

I hope no one takes offense, but has anyone ever heard of a man named 'Kara'? Is that a common male name in London I wonder?

 

[wannabedetective]

money and recognition jmo

Is she a public defense attorney or doing it pro bono?

If public defense, she may not have a choice.

From the history, doesn't sound like EB could afford a high-powered defense attorney, so if pro bono, yes, I think name recognition, but certainly not the money, because I don't think she'd be getting paid on this case.