NC - Zahra Clare Baker, 10, Hickory, 9 Oct. 2010 #34

[sunsetbeach]

I think hairstyles and hair coloring as in the hearing aids photo makes Zahra look more mature.
But if you look at her playing in the dirt with chopped hair, she looks small and her age group.
Plus I think with her SM and extended family she 'grew up' very fast!

I was not blessed. I can not have children, though I would love to have one (or more). Zahra was a beautiful young girl. One of which I wish I could call my own. It is a shame she ended up with two people who didn't give a crap about her. I know there are many more people out there in my shoes who wish/dream to have a child to love. It's a damn shame this beautiful child didn't have that.

 

[thisjusthurtsmyheart]

I also have another reason why EB could have been losing weight besides the drugs. I have taken quite a few psych classes and guilt will eat you up too...that is assuming I guess that Zahra had been gone longer than the day of the 9th. I do not know but drugs, guilt and over non committal to a healthy lifestyle will do that to somebody. Thats just an idea FWIW.

Certainly it's possible that a person can lose that much weight in a hurry by dieting or working out. However, drugs can also do that. Knowing the woman's extensive rap sheet, I don't see her signing up for Weight Watchers or investing in some kettlebells.

Seeing a massive weight loss during the time little Zahra went missing doesn't necessarily point to drugs... but it certainly *hints* that something like drugs might have pushed the precarious family situation over the edge. MIGHT have. MOO.

 

[Virgogalsue]

I also have another reason why EB could have been losing weight besides the drugs. I have taken quite a few psych classes and guilt will eat you up too...that is assuming I guess that Zahra had been gone longer than the day of the 9th. I do not know but drugs, guilt and over non committal to a healthy lifestyle will do that to somebody. Thats just an idea FWIW.

I don't think EB is capable of really feeling guilt! But she may be VERY anxious about facing the death penalty! That could explain her weight loss!?

It's SO hard for me to believe that EB is 42 years old...she looks at least 10 years older than that!

 

[sunsetbeach]

I also have another reason why EB could have been losing weight besides the drugs. I have taken quite a few psych classes and guilt will eat you up too...that is assuming I guess that Zahra had been gone longer than the day of the 9th. I do not know but drugs, guilt and over non committal to a healthy lifestyle will do that to somebody. Thats just an idea FWIW.

You are so RIGHT! Guilt can eat away at a person like no other.
It doesn't matter what it is (murder, hatefulness, jealousy for no reason, pure-d ol guilt for anything you may have done to a stranger or to someone you love) if you have any conscious what so ever your actions will haunt you if you have done something bad.

 

[passionflower]

I was not blessed. I can not have children, though I would love to have one (or more). Zahra was a beautiful young girl. One of which I wish I could call my own. It is a shame she ended up with two people who didn't give a crap about her. I know there are many more people out there in my shoes who wish/dream to have a child to love. It's a damn shame this beautiful child didn't have that.

(((hugs))))
I know so many like yourself that would of cherished this little one!!!

 

[Lera213]

She could have a thyroid problem. I have a thyroid problem and let me tell you I went from my normal weight all my life of 105 pounds to 146 pounds in two weeks! Once I was put on the correct dosage the pounds came off as fast as they came on. Not everyone loses that fast through...I did because my dosage was a little too high for me.

 

[froginTtown]

feeling a bit down today as holloween approaches. Wndering what Zahra thought about holloween and what her costume choice would have been. I am angry that she is not feeling the building excitement of the approach of trick or treating as a ten year old should be doing right now

and with that.. I hope that anyone who knows anything about this case comes forward.. and speaks the truth.... and gives this girl who has had the strength and courage to fight for her life, and win... only to lose to the most cowardly of acts..

 

[Lera213]

Once you are in jail don't they send you to the doctor, take blood work...and knowing EB she started to say she had this or that, so they had to test her for everything. Perhaps there was something and she is being treated. That combined with the guilt could take off a lot of pounds fast.

 

[passionflower]

It being Halloween and all, I guess LE know they have their murderer.........
no alerts for people to be careful..............Halloween not canceled in Hickory???

 

[passionflower]

I still feel drugs is the reason for the extreme weight loss.........
EB wanted to look good for her new guy on the string.........

 

[passionflower]

11 oclock news locals will be coming up........hope we hear from our locals.
I think they are celebrating trick or treat with children.

 

[NCMOM]

Not really. Actually there seems to have been weight loss in her daughter's as well. Maybe they had a bet going or something to see who could take the most off ? Not unheard of.

FWIW, a few of my girlfriends and I just did this. I lost the LEAST amount in a year at 18 lbs (I also had the least to lose). HOWEVER, one of the girls lost nearly 110 lbs in a year. :dance:

Interesting how EB AND her daughter AB lost a LOT of weight at the same time huh? Didn't AB talk about how scared she was of EB on the stand. Hmm, doesn't sound like she was exercising and weighing in at weight watchers with her Mom huh? Yah, there is a reason EB and AB both lost a lot of weight all right, but a diet challenge, I think not. JMO, but seriously?

 

[NCMOM]

Hormones we feed livestock probably.

You are correct! Accompany that with the need our little girls feel to appear much more grown up than they really are and you have girls that seem MUCH older than 10 or 11.

This child looked her age, she wasn't in Puberty. She was still a little girl. No , butt, etc. that goes along with it. I understand what you guys are saying, but it is not the case here. She was not physically mature for her age.

 

[sunsetbeach]

I'm signing off for tonight. However, I hope tomorrow brings better news for all of us. I know Zahra has gone to a better place but the better news would be that her killers are confronted once and for all for what they have done to her and that Lady Justice spins her wheels ... and fast.

Happy Halloween to all and esp. to all the young chilren out there. Stay safe.

Night night.

 

[agathawannabe]

IMO - EB wouldn't spit on someone else to cover up for them. She is in it for herself, and god help you if you are in the way.

Ya know.. This is how I felt about EB initially.. had her pinned as the penultimate narcissicist (which she may be).

But after studying her social network stuff pretty hard.. my armchair diagnosis would be Borderline Personality Disorder (BPD) primarily -- (sorry, IIRC there's a newer updated clinical name for it - just can't remember what it is).

I think there is one person in this world she would cover up for. It ain't Adam -- and it's not exactly herself, either.

For example.. take a look at her (now deleted) MySpace profile..

http://s857.photobucket.com/albums/...ew&current=Screenshot2010-10-17at123709PM.png

Notice how under the "About Me" heading at the top of the page, she describes the "one true love" she's ever had as being the person who "made me what I am today"... then invites the reader to request chat to learn more.

Now, note how under the "Who I'd like to meet" heading at the bottom of the page she talks about how she hoped and dreamed of finding her "soul-mate" - and she's found him.

She is talking about two different men here.

Adam is her "soul-mate" -- but NOT the "one true love" she's ever had (that's someone else).

Taking the phrase "made me what I am today" a step farther.. if EB has BPD, it is highly likely that she's lost touch with herself to a point of having become dependent on this "one true love" fellow to define her personality for her.

So, if we theorize for a moment, that the "one true love" may have been an accomplice in disposing of Zahra's body... then turn logic on its head and imagine that it now becomes a selfish (narcissistic act) for her NOT to rat this person out. As her own personality is tied to this person's direction/approval, it almost becomes a matter of mental/emotional self-preservation to refuse to betray the person. Does that make sense? Clinical psych's care to weigh in?

 

[NCMOM]

Wow, 10 yrs old and already 5'1" and 85 lbs. That is much bigger than I thought she was. I think with the right leverage it could be done by just EB, and we can't factor out adrenaline. I tend to agree with you all, she most likely had help from AB.

My daughter is 5'1 and 87lbs, there b'days are within 3 weeks of each other. Dr said my daughter is in the 50th percentile. Perfectly normal!

 

[NCMOM]

Crank can do that to you. I don't know whether that's what they were into, but she's sure displaying that kind of damage to her body and appearance.

And AB looks to have a little meth mouth going on, JMO.

JMO but if they are addicted, they are jonesing bad now! Elisa's not going to score in jail. Adam is being watched like a hawk. I bet that ain't pretty!:dance:

 

[froginTtown]

She does just sparkle doesn't she. Sometimes they shine too bright Sometimes a light that bright and genuine brings out rage in rageful people.

You know that is so true.. And when you mix a very negative person with a high spirted person, the negative will do everything in its power to destroy the positive... Now put that into contrast of the adult vs the child..

 

[Mountain_Kat]

I was not blessed. I can not have children, though I would love to have one (or more). Zahra was a beautiful young girl. One of which I wish I could call my own. It is a shame she ended up with two people who didn't give a crap about her. I know there are many more people out there in my shoes who wish/dream to have a child to love. It's a damn shame this beautiful child didn't have that.

You can count my husband and I among them. We could offer a child so much...stable home, parents who would love them, care for them, be there for them every step of the way, a homelife that is orderly, peaceful, filled with compassion, fun and laughter. So why don't we adopt? We simply can't afford it. Yet EB and her ilk are given these precious children on a silver platter, and they smack god right in the face for that gift. It's disheartening, and it's infuriating, and it's just plain WRONG.

(end of rant)

 

[passionflower]

Won't EB get her help with drug withdrawal in jail?
and she probably will gain all that weight back with jail house food.