NC - Zahra Clare Baker, 10, Hickory, 9 Oct. 2010 #38

[Mountain_Kat]

I think that's pretty much the scenario.

I would have thought it was a cover-up because of Zahra already being gone at that point (disregarding the furniture store report as possibly a false siting), but the first day of school in that district is shown as August 25. LE implied that someone outside the family had seen Zahra a month prior to her being reported missing (so...September 9?).

Just speculating.

Aug. 25, start of school at Hudson

Sept 25, furniture store clerk sighting

 

[Patty G]

Do they allow member moderators in the forums like that? I use to be part of a HUGE support board back in the day and the different areas were moderated by members based on time, post count, input, ability, and expertise. I know those are not necessarily the criteria for a board like this....but I bet there are some 'old timers' that wouldn't mind helping out

/wishful thinking :angel:

All members can help the moderators by alerting to posts that need attention.

 

[PunKnLuV]

All members can help the moderators by alerting to posts that need attention.

Oh I know...not trying to rock the boat I promise!!!

 

[Kamille]

Thanks for the info regarding the school issue shopgirl and punk. So it could just have been EB's laziness that had Zahra out of school,along with her desire to stay under the radar with LE what with pending court cases and all. I remember thinking it was odd that Zahra had come to the US in Dec 08 but hadn't attended school until Mar 09 back then. I guess making sure your child is in school is not a top priority for either of them.

 

[DLT88]

Exactly!
I think that as a narcissist, so long as Zahra 'reflected' how good, she EB was, things were hunky dory. I think she enjoyed feeling she was the center of AB and Zahra's universe. But she probably got irritated with the day to day bother. Maybe AB made her promises he didn't fufill, and she resented having his child 'dumped' on her. She'd already raised a family. She may not have wanted the day to day life of a little girl, and perhaps one who had special needs and some of those needs costing EB money. She seems to have had a problem with money-they certainly lived in lower income situations with bounced checks and renting rather than buying.

I wonder if Zahra told EB that she wasn't her mother? That, I think would have set this woman off.

I think she resented having a special-needs child 'dumped' on her, too, as she appears to be someone who cannot cope with such things. I think the resentment was there every day which lead to the frequent beatings.

People like her can be chamelions. I live in an apt complex when our previous bldg mgr retired. The mgmt co hired this couple in their 60's who were nice as pie when they came. It did not take long before the real them came out --- middle-aged drug addicts who just needed a place to crash and were as incompetent as they come. The woman is SO MUCH like EB -- even in looks. She can barely cope with herself much less tenants who call for repairs so she screams at the top of her lungs to anyone who calls or dares to go to their door.

Anyway, I'm sure EB could be as charming as she wants to be when there's something in it for her. But wear that down a bit, and you've got a real problem. And AB should have been more careful. "Knowing someone over the internet is NOT really knowing someone for "2 years". I don't think he waited that long after actually meeting her to marry her, did he? Wasn't it a few months or something?

 

[Mountain_Kat]

Well, once we got passed meatloaf time, we actually got some worthwhile work done. Thanks everyone for all your thought provoking posts. You guys rock.

 

[peg4x4]

I keep coming back to WHY did EB want Zahra to come with them to the US? AB was/is not the doteing kind of father who wants his child with him(moo) so EB had to be the one insisting she be brought along in spite of all the protests.. So how did she profit?
AARG!! These people are soo dumb it boggles my mind!!

 

[PunKnLuV]

Yeah, I don't think any of us thinks THAT would have been something EB was considering.

So...the reason she might not have ever attended school could very well be because neither EB nor AB ever took the responsibility to transfer Zahra to Viewmont. School officals call to inform them that it's the law that Zahra has to be in school, and EB probably comes up with the homeschooling thing on the fly, just to get them off her back. JMO, of course, but I've been trying to fit the not attending school thing into my theory, and couldn't for the life of me do it because I thought the school she was pre-enrolled at was the school she would attend at the new house.

Thanks for helping me clear that up in my mind. Whew.

Yes!! The responsibility is on the parents to enroll their children for the new school year IF they move into a new district. IMO with rentals there is really no way for new schools to know who is and isn't coming into their district. I do know that had she been enrolled at Viewmont the school would have followed up. I am completely sincere when I tell you how much respect I have for that school!!

I was replying to your question when my hubby came home. He's the one that was like well Viewmont is 3 minutes away but she could have driven the 30 minutes to Hudson - NOT
I was like ooooohhhhh that kinda puts it into perspective. There is no way IMO that EB would have ever done that. It's in my mind that Zahra would have wanted to attend a school she was familiar with and had friends at....no way would EB have cared about that.

All my opinion above!!

 

[Belinda]

I keep coming back to WHY did EB want Zahra to come with them to the US? AB was/is not the doteing kind of father who wants his child with him(moo) so EB had to be the one insisting she be brought along in spite of all the protests.. So how did she profit?
AARG!! These people are soo dumb it boggles my mind!!

My assumption would be that EB somehow thought she could benefit from Zahra's disabilities as in donations, etc. as had been done for her in Australia. That didn't materialize in the US as Zahra's health improved, so no lovely donations.

 

[Kamille]

I keep coming back to WHY did EB want Zahra to come with them to the US? AB was/is not the doteing kind of father who wants his child with him(moo) so EB had to be the one insisting she be brought along in spite of all the protests.. So how did she profit?
AARG!! These people are soo dumb it boggles my mind!!

Perhaps she had a problem with her new mother in law. Like maybe she wasn't being accepted very well. So what better way to hurt her than to take her son and grandaughter away from her. I have a feeling EB might be a bit of a spiteful one.

MOO

 

[Pugnolia]

I've been reading over some of SM's myspace musings, and notice that in February she seems rather reflective.

After stating on Feb. 12 that the world is full of cold-hearted people who hurt undeserving people, she then goes on and talks about Karma on Feb. 15, whereas it will eventually get the people who deserve it, and when that happens she'll point and laugh.

She then states on Feb. 19 that she wishes the earth was her globe, and that with one good spin, people would just 'happen' to fly off.

So ...... her spin worked.

I wonder if she will point and laugh at her own Karma?

 

[Moonlit]

IIRC someone had tried to check up on the home school situation. I remember reading they tried contacting the Bakers but they would not answer or return any calls. I don't remember if the story said who "they" were. If it was her previous school district, the new district where she would have been attending, or DSS.

 

[SherlockHomey]

Kind of OT but really not - I wonder who will win the DA office election today. Should be very very interesting! It will determine who prosecutes the case. :angel:

 

[myzzy]

Thanks for the info regarding the school issue shopgirl and punk. So it could just have been EB's laziness that had Zahra out of school,along with her desire to stay under the radar with LE what with pending court cases and all. I remember thinking it was odd that Zahra had come to the US in Dec 08 but hadn't attended school until Mar 09 back then. I guess making sure your child is in school is not a top priority for either of them.

I dont think the immigration would be in contact with school boards to confirm a child gets enrolled into schooling. When my daughter and i came to canada from the USA it was a on visitors visa for the first 6 months and then was turned into a spouse application to immigrate to canada. During the time we were on the visitor visa my daughter was not allowed to enroll into any schooling here ( i had to homeschool her) nor did they ask for my daughters information to keep record of her not being school

it took quite a while to actually get her into school and alot of calling. Im assuming that EB/AB may have ran into the same situation when she first arrived before they were able to enroll her.

just my opinion

 

[kcsmom76]

WOW!! Don't know if this has been reported but there are protesters outside the Baker Home and I just heard a clip of it on commercial. This one lady was screaming something and then she said, "you ought to be hung." It showed Adam Baker throwing a suitcase in the back of a truck. This is going to be on Channel 9 at 5.

 

[SherlockHomey]

WOW!! Don't know if this has been reported but there are protesters outside the Baker Home and I just heard a clip of it on commercial. This one lady was screaming something and then she said, "you ought to be hung."

Wow, that's unsettling.

 

[april_showers]

Yeah, I don't think any of us thinks THAT would have been something EB was considering.

So...the reason she might not have ever attended school could very well be because neither EB nor AB ever took the responsibility to transfer Zahra to Viewmont. School officals call to inform them that it's the law that Zahra has to be in school, and EB probably comes up with the homeschooling thing on the fly, just to get them off her back. JMO, of course, but I've been trying to fit the not attending school thing into my theory, and couldn't for the life of me do it because I thought the school she was pre-enrolled at was the school she would attend at the new house.

Thanks for helping me clear that up in my mind. Whew.

Just thinking (typing) out loud here, so bear with me...

We've discussed in previous threads the types of gov't assistance the family would receive. As others have stated, Zahra and AB's immigrant status would make them ineligible for most benefits, even despite Zahra's medical conditions. Now we have EB - a confirmed collector of gov't assistance, and definitely a potential scammer of the system (IMO). I’d bet she’s the type who knew every in and out and loophole to manipulate her way into getting the most benefits possible. It sounds like EB had been doing this for years - with all these mysterious painful illnesses, fake diseases etc. I’m not sure how it works in NC, but I know where I live, you have to prove a pretty solid case that you absolutely cannot work to get full disability benefits. Maybe someone down at the state office was starting to see through her BS. Maybe she’d exhausted all her options with her strange disease that she couldn’t quite prove. Maybe her SSI was running out, or it was time to reapply for food stamps. Or maybe she was just greedy and wanted more free $$… Either way, I’m wondering if she saw having Zahra at home as a new way to scam social services. In the government’s eyes, she could certainly get a part time job with a ten year old in school, but what if she were suddenly the full time caregiver of a disabled, homebound child? I’ve been digging around this site for more info on NC benefits, abut need a bit more time to figure out exactly how it would work [http://www.carolina-disability.com/]

Anyway, I’m wondering if pulling Zahra out of school was an attempt to build the case for more $$ for EB. I can also see how this would be presented to AB, especially in light of their obvious financial troubles. Just my opinion…

 

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[sarx]

WOW!! Don't know if this has been reported but there are protesters outside the Baker Home and I just heard a clip of it on commercial. This one lady was screaming something and then she said, "you ought to be hung." It showed Adam Baker throwing a suitcase in the back of a truck. This is going to be on Channel 9 at 5.

Is this current or a clip from the past?

 

[passionflower]

WOW!! Don't know if this has been reported but there are protesters outside the Baker Home and I just heard a clip of it on commercial. This one lady was screaming something and then she said, "you ought to be hung." It showed Adam Baker throwing a suitcase in the back of a truck. This is going to be on Channel 9 at 5.

Okay now where is he going?????