NC - Zahra Clare Baker, 10, Hickory, 9 Oct. 2010 #38

[RoseTree]

The "horrifying" part probably is true because LE doesn't' seem surprised. What I'm wondering is how on earth Adam Baker is out? I mean, really?

 

[Etilema]

eric gein?.........he has the same surname as ed gein? How creepy, is he related? :waitasec:

Apparently "Gein" is an assumed name, inspired by Ed Gein:

http://www.folioweekly.com/documents/main_081710_000.pdf

 

[wfgodot]

1. Why would anyone now believe anything Elisa Baker says in the letters, if they are hers?
2. The tone of the purported letters does sound like her prose on the MS page.

 

[Soulmagent]

I just got to say: "allegedly" Elisa wrote these letters. Someone just might be playing to make $$$$$.

I believe she wrote them. The letter fit her.

'' we didnt kill her,but what he did after ''

After what ? You killed her?

 

[elepher50]

Local news from house in Hickory from kcsmom76:

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[tehcloser]

from KSCmom...............


WOW!! Don't know if this has been reported but there are protesters outside the Baker Home and I just heard a clip of it on commercial. This one lady was screaming something and then she said, "you ought to be hung." It showed Adam Baker throwing a suitcase in the back of a truck. This is going to be on Channel 9 at 5.
tensions high today
neighbors stood outside yelling
neighbors told dave f. he should still be behind bars
they saw adam baker come outside as he was being evicted out of home
asked about zahra and his attorney said nothing
people gathered at memorial
shouted you out to be in jail, you ought to be hung
he desrves to be locked up, he deserves to be in jail
police have not talked to adam since he left jail
attorney took pictures and was asked about them
dave said searches are continuing search at christie road
three more leads
may not be done with that area
asked if adam was cooperating with police and his attorney would not comment
end of presser

All I typed was taken directly from WSOC-tv at 5pm reported by Dave Faherty.

 

[SherlockHomey]

http://www.aolnews.com/nation/artic...-adam-baker-did-something-horrifying/19699740

Here is a slightly blown up version of the letter from the article for anybody on dial up.

Wow, just wow! I notice the letter doesn't mention anything about Zahra. It's all about her...typical.

 

[Etilema]

Dosen't it seem a but quick and strange that EB would know this site exsists and to contact them and know the mailing address ? If they contacted her do we believe that LE/jail would allow information to be leaked when they look at the letters either going out or in especially when she is being so forth coming with LE? let alone the time frame to mail and recieve 3 letters between the site and her?

Sorry im not buying that it was her letter to them, i cant see it happening

It might be that the website initiated contact, since that is Eric Gein's usual method (contacting killers). He might have then gotten a good deal with AOL (rather than local media), in terms of payment.

JMO

ETA: Yes, in the article it states: "Gein told AOL News that he wrote to Baker in the Hickory, N.C., jail shortly after her arrest."

 

[Beagle]

Does this writing match with the ransom note?

Does it match the letters? If you look at both snips from the letters one is written in a backhand manner and the other is written in a forward slant manner.


Just found this curious.

 

[SherlockHomey]

This is very telling...

"Nothing has went [sic] the way it was supposed to" How was it supposed to go, EB? You were supposed to get away with murder? Your plan was foiled?

 

[Carolina Girl]

So if she isn't missing, where is she?

"...but Zahra isn't missing, the cops know where she is and what he has done."


Yea, I think it is hitting the fan.

 

[SherlockHomey]

I also have to say after this has come out, what I saw on FB makes sense now. Can I post it?

 

[Blue Ridge]

WOWZERS. Isn't that practically a confession? Well, to whomever was wondering about EB's handwriting, there ya go!

Odd, to me, is that in the two samples of the letters they show, in one her handwriting slants back to the left, and in the other it slants to the right. I don't know, maybe that isn't abnormal but I have always thought most people's writing always slants the same direction, maybe varying a little but not the exact opposite slant?!

 

[april_showers]

It might be that the website initiated contact, since that is Eric Gein's usual method (contacting killers). He might have then gotten a good deal with AOL (rather than local media), in terms of payment.

JMO

ETA: Yes, in the article it states: "Gein told AOL News that he wrote to Baker in the Hickory, N.C., jail shortly after her arrest."

Seems that way:

"Gein told AOL News that he wrote to Baker in the Hickory, N.C., jail shortly after her arrest. He said he has received two very telling letters from her. He shared copies of both with AOL News"

and

"Hickory Deputy Chief of Police Clyde Deal acknowledged that the letters likely were written by Elisa Baker."

I'm thinking, perhaps, since Gein isn't local to the case, it's not unreasonable that he'd persue a more national medial outlet. Perhaps he's struck deals with AOL before - this seems like a pretty common past time for him

 

[sweetmop]

I wonder why the local media didn't come up these letter rather then "AOL News"? I find it strange that the letters were sent to "Serial Killers Ink" and now my "little" red flag is waving on my computer screen.


ETA: http://serialkillersink.net/

Once again she was looking for a way to garner money.

 

[Blue Ridge]

OMG....she's writing to crime memorabilia guys and not the cops?????

Sounds right in line w/ something a gothicfairy would do actually. IMO, JMO, MOO. Maybe she is a big fan of his.

Wonder what her attorney thinks of this?!

 

[Etilema]

My opinion is that the letters are from her, based on several things:

1) Eric Gein's normal method is to contact killers and correspond with them, and he says he did that in this case.

2) Eric Gein would be concerned about his reputation for having a collection of legitimate killer-related memorabilia, so would not sell a forged letter to the media.

3) Presumably he could also be in legal trouble if he were to sell a forged letter, representing it as legitimate.

4) "Hickory Deputy Chief of Police Clyde Deal acknowledged that the letters likely were written by Elisa Baker." And he said the content was like what she was saying to other people.

All just my own opinion.

 

[elepher50]

I also have to say after this has come out, what I saw on FB makes sense now. Can I post it?

Sure just paraphrase - don't link it.

 

[sarx]

I don't think it's quite as clean as that LE "knows" where she is. I do however feel like and have for some time now she is up in that area of Granite Falls. They just haven't found her yet. I so hope they do.

 

[april_showers]

Odd, to me, is that in the two samples of the letters they show, in one her handwriting slants back to the left, and in the other it slants to the right. I don't know, maybe that isn't abnormal but I have always thought most people's writing always slants the same direction, maybe varying a little but not the exact opposite slant?!

Does anyone know what hand EB writes with. I'm a lefty, and I know my handwriting changes dramatically after I've been writing awhile in pencil. The graphite starts to smudge on the bottom side of my hand after awhile - this always makes me lift my hand up further, and causes a weird slant to my writing. Just throwing that out there... :waitasec: