NC - Zahra Clare Baker, 10, Hickory, 9 Oct 2010 - #4

[impatientredhead]

discussing whether SM will now put responsibility off on dad, whether LE will turn SM and dad against each other.

If SM (I so want another label for her instead of stepmom, she was not a stepmother) killed Zahra and he woodchipped her body.... well he set himself right up for a he said she said on who actually killed her by destroying all of the evidence

And on a jury I would have a real hard time understanding why a FATHER would woodchip a child he didn't have a direct hand in killing.

I hope they both fry.

 

[strach304]

I am speechless...

its just to horrible

this is not a Halloween movie

this is real EVIL...there is no other word.

Over came so muchhhh...sigh...

and.. just wanted to say,... some of her pics she looks like a young Tatum ONeal..
like from the paper Moon days... so cute

GOD BLESS ZAHRA ... :angel:

That's it! I couldn't figure out who she reminded me of.

 

[Oriah]

Crime is graphic and crime is what we discuss here.

Crime is what we discuss here.

But what we do not discuss is crime that is going to hurt loved ones of any crime any more than they already are hurting.

SuzyQ :blowkiss:
I know where your heart is, and mine is in the same place. I still think we should be careful about this.

 

[panthera]

Jane Velez Mitchell. You can watch her online here---->http://www.ustream.tv/channel/timer55

She is not covering Zahra now and did mention Nancy Grace will be covering her on her show, which immediately follows JVM.

I'm here, Kimster! Meanwhile I've been trying to catch up on today's developments and now find out about a woodchipper and a search taking place in the woods. :cry: MOO

 

[Kimster]

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[SuziQ]

Along the same lines...can we please not discuss the details of Zahra until we have mainstream links? And even then, can we PLEASE be extra sensitive to that?
TIA. I am having a moment.

I'm not sure what you are asking. CNN and HLN are mainstream links.

 

[Kat]

:hug: Oriah.

There are sometimes that the discussion threads such as these are too much for me and I, personally, will either just visit the information and support thread for the missing person or missing child rather than reading through the discussion posts because to be honest sometimes I'm just not strong enough to read all the details. Sometimes, I just sign off and regroup. Refocus on something else and come back when I've had time to think and pray and process.

HTH, I'm with you on the having a hard time processing Zahra's fate.

 

[Debbie3223]

this isnt a forum to be reading and joining in for the xtra sensitive.

. this is real true evil crime that goes on all day, everyday, all over the world...


i just skip the squeamish or go find something else to do
like hug and kiss my punkin a billion times

 

[Kimberlyd125]

If SM (I so want another label for her instead of stepmom, she was not a stepmother) killed Zahra and he woodchipped her body.... well he set himself right up for a he said she said on who actually killed her by destroying all of the evidence

And on a jury I would have a real hard time understanding why a FATHER would woodchip a child he didn't have a direct hand in killing.

I hope they both fry.

I agree!

But, maybe she did it? She may have known about the equipment and did it herself.

I'm not taking up for the Dad. I don't know how much he knew. He could have done the woodchipping. I don't know.

But, I think it is possible SM could have done this.

 

[gibby207]

Howdy everyone!! Come on in!!

 

[nobodyspecial]

I officially know more about wood chippers than I ever cared to. Also, heaven help me if anyone checks my search history right now. Yikes.

More on metal in woodchippers: http://www.woodchipper.net/


Betcha didn't know such a site existed.

"The pieces of wood that are produced can be very big, and if thinly sliced metal is inserted, it is possible that they will be cut into slivers instead of chips."

"There are also bigger chipper styles used for processing whole trees, thus getting the nickname “whole tree chippers” or “recyclers.” They can handle materials between two to six feet in diameter, using employ drums, disks, or sometimes a combination of both. The largest machine, also known as tub grinders, can take on materials eight feet and larger in diameter. It is uses carbide tipped flail hammers to pulverize the material instead of just cutting it. The horsepower on this range between 200 to 1,000. Many of them can only be moved by semi-trailer trucks, being that they are so big and heavy. There are some smaller ones that can be pulled by average duty trucks."

I'm still not convinced titanium would be completely destroyed. I need to go back and look at some of the photos of Zahra to see if I can figure out the type she has and what it's made of. I'm just thinking there's a chunk of that metal nearby. Physics would make it easy to figure out approximately how far the debris could have gone. Well...easier, anyway.

 

[Kimster]

I'm here, Kimster! Meanwhile I've been trying to catch up on today's developments and now find out about a woodchipper and a search taking place in the woods. :cry: MOO

Yes! This is turning into a horrible nightmare! My solace is knowing precious Zahra is in heaven.

 

[elepher50]

Zahra - the beautiful child who always has a smile on her face:

 

[Coldpizza]

From what I've read, seen, they did report it. Several times.

Your right , I think one of her daughters or his did, but not enough was done. I cant remember who did. I was going to add to my post, but I'm trying very hard right now not to get a vacation.

 

[gibby207]

Yeah, you know when I brought up the "red goo"/woodchipper comment earlier and someone asked me to clarify, I didn't want to be graphic because I wasn't ready to say it out loud or thinking so left it as "blood", and thankfully SuziQ and others started posting to get my heart back in and my head back out. It was really me not accepting things as they were looking. I do know how you feel, Oriah... (hugs)

 

[Kat]

THEN WHY DIDNT THEY SAY SOMETHING:furious:

Sorry for the caps, but this is one of the worse crimes I have followed.
I'm mad, numb,horrified you name it......this didn't need to happen to this beautiful darling survivor and just a beautiful girl all around. If the allegations are true....I just will never understand.

Hi CP. Nursebeme posted some vids backthread (could have been the previous thread) where some of the extended family gave interview(s) and the abuse was reported several times to authorities. This is what they are saying at least I haven't any reason to doubt them at this time. JMHO.

 

[panthera]

Yes! This is turning into a horrible nightmare! My solace is knowing precious Zahra is in heaven.

I agree.......thankfully she doesn't have to subjected to torture any longer, is free of pain and suffering. :cry:

 

[Cubby]

Crime is what we discuss here.

But what we do not discuss is crime that is going to hurt loved ones of any crime any more than they already are hurting.

SuzyQ :blowkiss:
I know where your heart is, and mine is in the same place. I still think we should be careful about this.

You are so kind Oriah. This is so difficult for everyone, especially having a good idea where this case is leading.

Respectfully, the reason WS has two seperate area's for missing persons cases, the discussion area and the missing persons info and family support only area is specifically so family and those who know the victim do not have to read the opinion and speculation on the discussion forum.

Technically (and respectfully) we can't 'police' where family wishes to read. It is up to the individual/family or those who know the victim to choose to read the discussion forum or not, and only read the info and family support forum.

We can't really do more than offer an area where discussion is not allowed and case information and support is offered only.

hth.

 

[darnudes]

Nancy Grace covering story now on Ustream for those without cable or not in the States.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

There is no sugar coating this case. It's horrific.

But, if we are going to discuss this crime, we need to discuss all the facts IMO.

Not trying to be hateful or morbid. It's just discussing the case.

JMO