Found Deceased ND - Savanna Lafontaine-Greywind, 22, pregnant, Fargo, 19 Aug 2017 #1 *Arrests*

[katikaboom]

There are tons of stables between Moorhead and Fargo. I really hope the PD has thought of this.

 

[margarita25]

WDAY (media) article about WH's criminal background. Domestic violence charges stemmed from 2016, when he threw his girlfriend at the time in the bath tub to put the shower on her.
http://www.wday.com/news/4317725-suspect-missing-woman-case-convicted-child-abuse-2012

"Hoehn's girlfriend at the time told police that an argument started as they were sorting laundry and Hoehn slapped her with a shirt.
She said he then threw her on the bed and tried to tie her up.
When she ran to the bathroom to get away, she said Hoehn "slammed her down" into the bathtub and said he was going to drown her.
Hoehn told police he was trying to put the shower on her and "it might have been excessive to put her into the bathtub," court records said."

Ommmgggg

 

[JetsFan24]

Would there be a massive amount of blood if it was done in a tub full of water? Simply open the drain and, well... Turn on the shower and clean it up?

I would imagine there would still be some blood spatter and DNA all over that tub. Water helps but (honest question) is it truly the be all end all for DNA and blood especially against the use of luminal?

 

[LadyL]

I'm horrified and so, so sad for Savanna and her baby.

I had a C-Section performed by very experienced doctors in a well equipped hospital and I remember them telling my husband not to look at the floor on his way out because there was so much blood. He glanced and said he was shocked by the amount. I tell this story only to highlight the extreme unlikelihood of someone not bleeding to death by having a "C-Section" performed by amateurs in a home setting.

 

[Knox]

I think the answer is right in front of us. They guy in is domestic assault case was accused of throwing his girlfriend in tub and telling he was going to drown her.
Neighbor downstairs said he heard banging in bathtub same time as she went missing.

Connect the dots. He drowned her and ripped baby out. Why there was no brutal screaming.

Can you link to where you saw the details on the DV case please?

 

[alexwood]

Or maybe they drugged her in the tub, he took her to a second locqtion, she remained behind and answered the door, then she went to the location later at night where they took her baby.

Or threw her into the empty tub, face up, and proceeded to bang her head against the bottom of the tub until she lost consciousness. Then turned on the shower to add water to the tub to drown her, in case she was not already dead by the head trauma. Used a reciprocating saw to extract the baby and prepare Savanna for disposal. (So sorry. Very graphic.)

 

[margarita25]

There are tons of stables between Moorhead and Fargo. I really hope the PD has thought of this.

I just contacted them. Will go ahead and send this as well. Thank you. Please keep these ideas coming.

 

[FlossyMay]

I just contacted them. Will go ahead and send this as well. Thank you. Please keep these ideas coming.

Thank you for doing that, margarita25.

 

[Davia18]

I wonder if either of them have defensive wombs. I think she would have fought like crazy to protect her baby. Makes me sick to think what these people have done to her. I don't know how anyone could harm someone like this.
Pray they find Savanna soon.

 

[Kairi'sMom]

While you are at it, tell them to check out the abandoned Fergus Falls Regional Treatment Center located in Fergus Falls, Minnesota. I believe it still stands, according to some info I read. It's only about an hour away from Fargo.

Brooke Crews belongs to that FB group. Clearly she is disturbed enough to abandon poor Savanna in or near an old state mental hospital. It's worth looking at.

Praying for Savanna, her baby, and her family. What a horrible thing to happen at such a happy time in their lives.

 

[Tbone144]

please not a saw

I hate to say it but those automatic meat knives sound a bit like my sewing machine and you could set it down with it running I think. That would leave a lot of evidence behind I would think. I don't think transporting a whole body without notice would be easy though.

 

[whitelilac]

I would imagine there would still be some blood spatter and DNA all over that tub. Water helps but (honest question) is it truly the be all end all for DNA and blood especially against the use of luminal?

In Zahra's case, after luminol was used in the bathroom, tons of evidence was found.....lots in the pipes as well when they were ripped out. That monster step mother also cleaned up after poor Zahra was dismembered.

 

[Spellbound]

Well now I am not so sure that the pic of an abandoned car I posted is the one behind the apartments .... it is no longer on the linked page. however, THIS is from the Fargo Police FB and is the one they want info on, if it was seen Saturday or Sunday. The pics are much clearer on the page: https://www.facebook.com/fargopolicedepartment/posts/10155588961283334

 

[alexwood]

WDAY (media) article about WH's criminal background. Domestic violence charges stemmed from 2016, when he threw his girlfriend at the time in the bath tub to put the shower on her.
http://www.wday.com/news/4317725-suspect-missing-woman-case-convicted-child-abuse-2012

"Hoehn's girlfriend at the time told police that an argument started as they were sorting laundry and Hoehn slapped her with a shirt.
She said he then threw her on the bed and tried to tie her up.
When she ran to the bathroom to get away, she said Hoehn "slammed her down" into the bathtub and said he was going to drown her.
Hoehn told police he was trying to put the shower on her and "it might have been excessive to put her into the bathtub," court records said."

I think georgiajean, you are onto his MO! Great find!

 

[margarita25]

If they got away with this child, imagine her future life of abuse.

Did they want a child to abuse? I might be way off my rocker, well I am we all know that, not the point, but you guys remember the Amish sisters abducted and exploited for child by a couple? Who knows with these guys are into.

Have a lot of catching up here.

Eta. We can assume LE is reading here hopefully, as I've linked them to these pages/posts.

 

[alexwood]

While you are at it, tell them to check out the abandoned Fergus Falls Regional Treatment Center located in Fergus Falls, Minnesota. I believe it still stands, according to some info I read. It's only about an hour away from Fargo.

Brooke Crews belongs to that FB group. Clearly she is disturbed enough to abandon poor Savanna in or near an old state mental hospital. It's worth looking at.

Praying for Savanna, her baby, and her family. What a horrible thing to happen at such a happy time in their lives.

So do you think she worked there at some point, or was she a patient there? It must have been a mental health treatment facility.

 

[Kairi'sMom]

So do you think she worked there at some point, or was she a patient there? It must have been a mental health treatment facility.

I guess it's possible. The page I found about it says it closed in 2009.

http://www.friendsofthekirkbride.com/the-history/

 

[Davia18]

I can't post the link but I read on FB that someone called the family yesterday from a burner cell phone said to check buffalo state park ? Also says the family is searching there.

 

[Davia18]

I hope Savanna is found soon but I sure hope she's not found by her family. That would be even more heart breaking.

 

[alexwood]

I would imagine there would still be some blood spatter and DNA all over that tub. Water helps but (honest question) is it truly the be all end all for DNA and blood especially against the use of luminal?

In Zahra's case, after luminol was used in the bathroom, tons of evidence was found.....lots in the pipes as well when they were ripped out. That monster step mother also cleaned up after poor Zahra was dismembered.

I'm sure they will dismantle the plumbing in the bathtub and would be sure to capture some evidence.