ND - Several bodies found at Mandan business, 1 April 2019 *Arrest* #2

[Seattle1]

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DAY -11

August 18, 2021

8:34 a.m.: Witness called — Ben Pace, an RJR employee. He does the marketing for the company. Questioning by defense attorney Jesse Walstad. Says RJR took over management of the Northview Mobile Home Park in Washburn in July 2018.

Witness Ben Pace
Says RJR took steps to introduce itself to the residents, sent welcome letters, knocked door to door. Says very few were apprehensive, most wanted more information. Says RJR did not have plans to raise lot rents.

Pace says rent collection was by mail, dropbox, online and by phone.

Says he met Chad Isaak while he and other RJR people were going door to door at the mobile home park to introduce themselves in person to the residents. The meeting was very normal. Isaak discussed things he did in the park for the old management company. Isaak said he helped move snow in the park. Page decided to provide that information to Robert Fakler. Says Isaak said he couldn’t make the “Meet the Managers” meeting because he had to work. Says Robert Fakler had offered to pay him to move the snow instead of doing it for free. The conversation was about five minutes. Either Fakler or Pace gave an RJR business card to Isaak.

Pace says he did not get a sense of animosity or frustration during the brief conversation with Isaak.

Says he received no complaints about Isaak. Recalls a neighbor saying Chad Isaak was “neighborly.”

Pace says he had a phone call with Chad Isaak. It was related to the RJR pet policy. Says Chad Isaak completed the RJR pet policy form and returned it to RJR.

Says RJR sent two letters to Chad Isaak. Pace says they were in Chad Isaak’s tenant file.

Pace says the first one, July 20, 2018, introduced RJR to the residents of the mobile home court saying RJR was taking over management. A questionnaire with the letter asked for basic contact information, which Isaak filled out.

The second letter, August 7, 2018, told residents how to log onto the RJR online portal.

Pace says a lease agreement with the previous property management company was also in Isaak’s tenant file.

Pace says another document shows the history of monetary transactions with the tenant account, in this case, Chad Isaak’s monthly rent payments. Says the document does not show

Pace says Isaak appeared to pay his rent over the phone by credit card. Says the report indicates Chad Isaak never paid his rent late. Does not recall Isaak ever coming to the RJR building in person to pay his rent.

Pace says he recalls law enforcement asking him about evictions. Recalls an agent asking for a copy of RJR evictions and collection actions.

Pace was going to Las Vegas on April 1, 2019, for a storage convention with Jackie Fakler.

8:33 a.m.: The trial of Chad Isaak resumes, Judge David Reich presiding. The defense starts its presentation.

8:00 a.m.: Day 11 of testimony in the Chad Isaak trial, Day 13 in the trial overall, is scheduled to begin at 8:30 a.m. The prosecution, or state, rested its case on Tuesday. Today, the defense will now begin its presentation. Based on discussions Tuesday afternoon between the judge and the attorneys on both sides of the case, it is expected the defense may finish its presentation today, with closing arguments coming Thursday morning and the case going to the jury Thursday afternoon. The trial started Monday, August 2. Jury selection took two days. Testimony began August 4.

 

[Seattle1]

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DAY -11

9:29 a.m.: Witness called — Dora Sorenson, a Beulah resident since 1977. Had chiropractic treatment from Chad Isaak for about 10 years. She saw him when he practiced in Beulah and when he moved to Washburn.

Witness Dora Sorenson
Says she had appointments once a month, always on Mondays at noon. Says she was satisfied with the treatments she received from Chad Isaak. Conversation between her and Isaak was always small talk.

Says Chad Isaak called her over the weekend prior to April 1 to cancel the Monday, April 1 appointment. Says Isaak would always call her ahead of her appointments to remind her of her appointment. Says she had treatments rescheduled before, occasionally.

Says her appointment was moved to 4:00 p.m. on the afternoon of April 1, 2019. It was scheduled for noon that day. Says Isaak told her he had a dentist appointment and was going to have to reschedule her noon appointment.

During her rescheduled April 1, 2019, treatment, Sorenson says it was normal like other treatments. Says nothing stood out to her as being usual during the appointment. Says Isaak was polite. Says nothing was out of the ordinary. Says she doesn’t recall seeing any injuries on his hands. Scheduled her next appointment for May.

9:28 a.m.: Re-direct by Jesse Walstad. Schmidt recalls Chad Isaak drinking orange soda. Says it is possible Isaak could have walked away to get a drink from his soda.

9:25 a.m.: Cross-examination by prosecuting attorney Karlei Neufeld. Schmidt says he didn’t have a relationship with Isaak outside of work. No personal relationship. Says he didn’t know him very well outside of what was talked about and seen during the appointments. Says something did stand out as odd during his April 1, 2019 appointment. Says Isaak was going to adjust his neck and then Isaak walked into the back of the office and came back and didn’t do the neck adjustment.

9:19 a.m.: Witness called — Joseph Schmidt, an electrician in Washburn. Received chiropractic treatment from Chad Isaak in Washburn for two or three months. Received about a dozen treatments. Felt the treatments were of benefit to him.

Witness Joseph Schmidt
Says his wife also went to Chad Isaak for treatment.

Says he had an appointment on April 1, 2019 for 4:30 p.m., his usual appointment time. It was not moved or rescheduled. When he arrived, Chad Isaak was in the office and greeted him. Nothing stood out to him at that appointment from any other appointment he had.

Doesn’t recall any cuts or such on Isaak’s hand during the appointment.

He scheduled an appointment for the following week. Says he had just regular conversation with Isaak.

9:18 a.m.: Judge David Reich calls for a one-minute stretch break.

9:18 a.m.: Re-direct by Walstad. Pace says Chad Isaak had a back lab dog.

9:05 a.m.: Cross-examination by prosecuting attorney Gabrielle Joy Goter. Pace says the April 1, 2019, Las Vegas convention was planned for about four, five months. Says he and Lois were supposed to leave early that morning. The plan was to meet at RJR and leave from there. When he arrived at RJR on April 1, 2019, he recalled she was crying, confused, scared. It was also his reaction. Says when he arrived, there were employees, police, ambulance crews.

Pace says he was interviewed by a BCI agent the week of April 1, 2019. He was asked if he had any ideas who could have done the killings. He tossed out several suggestions, but he really had no idea of who would do the killings.

Pace says besides the brief meeting with Chad Isaak, he knows nothing about Chad Isaak. Says the neighbor was said he was “neighborly” actually said he waved to her when he saw her.

A new pet policy was introduced that was stricter than the previous management company’s pet policy, due to insurance limitations. Isaak had brought up to Pace concerns about keeping his dog under the new pet policy.

Pace says Isaak initiated the conversation about how he moved snow in his cul de sac. Goter asks if he was aware Isaak had a verbal altercation with the previously contracted snow remover.

Pace says he doesn’t know the outcome of the snow conversation. It was more a “get hold of me and we’ll work things out.” Pace says he doesn’t know if things were worked out.

Pace says he was bitten by a dog at Northview Estates, owned by the previous managers of the mobile home park. The new pet policy was initiated by the new owners after that incident.

Problems with dogs at Northview were a lot of dogs outside not on leashes. The dog that bit Pace was not on a leash.

Pace recalls telling law enforcement that Isaak was concerned about having to possibly get rid of his dog.

 

[Gardenista]

I’m just struggling to comprehend how this defense was so weak. Are they basing their whole defense and thinking they are going to win on reasonable doubt?

How could it be any better? It's clear he's guilty.

 

[Seattle1]

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This is a continuing story and will be updated as new details develop. Keep checking back for the latest information available. Updates from previous days are at the end of this report. Live streaming of the trial is here. Other articles are also available here.

Note: The titles listed for each of the witnesses is the title or job they held on April 1, 2019. The witnesses may have different titles or jobs today.

Wednesday, August 18

10:49 a.m.: Judge David Reich recesses the trial for the noon break. The trial will resume at 1:00 p.m.

10:48 a.m.: The defense rests.

10:44 a.m.: The judge and the attorneys are discussing the introduction by the defense of a particular document, a domestic violence protection order for Lisa Nelson. The defense said it was relevant to the defense case. The state argued it was impermissible character evidence given there had been no testimony about her ex-husband or foundation laid for the document. The judge was concerned about introducing a piece of evidence without a witness and that it could be confusing to the jury. After the discussion, the defense withdrew its request to introduce the evidence.

Defense attorney Jesse Walstad and prosecuting attorney Gabrielle Joy Goter talk with Judge David Reich about an issue concerning potential evidence.
10:43 a.m.: Re-cross-examination by Gabrielle Joy Goter. The April co contamination event was a case involving semen. No contamination events related to the RJR case.

10:41 a.m.: Re-direct by defense attorney Luke Heck. Says RJR evidence was submitted in April and that there was a contamination event in April. Says there was also a contamination event in August and another in October.

10:38 a.m.: Cross-examination by prosecuting attorney Gabrielle Joy Goter. Gebhard says there were no contamination events related to the RJR analyses. Says the log shows they are reviewing for contamination, documenting the event and taking action based on the information.

10:32 a.m.: Witness called — Amy Gebhard, North Dakota State Crime Lab DNA analyst. Questioning by defense attorney Luke Heck.

Says she is familiar with a contamination log maintained by the ND State Crime Lab. She reviewed a log from 2016-2020.

Witness Amy Gebhard
Says there are no records in the contamination log related to the RJR investigation.

Says there are entries from 2019 for the months of February, April, August and October.

Says a contamination event means evidence has been contaminated.

10:30 a.m.: Re-direct by defense attorney Luke Heck. Blumhagen says the report indicates when a vehicle registration expires. The report does not indicate where vehicles were on any given day or any given location. Says she it would be her impression that finding that information would be the function of law enforcement.

10:26 a.m.: Cross-examination by prosecuting attorney Austin Gunderson. Blumhagen says the list of all vehicles in the database is for Ford F-150s with expired registration and currently registered.

Says she doesn’t know if Mitchell Kessel’s vehicle was two-door, four-door, two-wheel drive, if they have any bed liners, length of truck bed. The registration database just indicates a list of Ford F-150. No sub details. No information about the types of rims.

10:16 a.m.: Witness called — Jennifer Blumhagen, North Dakota Department of Transportation, director of the Motor Vehicle Division. NDDOT has data on the make and model of registered vehicles, who owns the vehicles and other pertinent data.

Witness Jennifer Blumhagen
A report was requested to be run on April 3, 2019, containing a list of vehicles registered with NDDOT that meet the criteria of a 2004-2008 white Ford F-150 vehicles in North Dakota. The report is 53 pages in length.

Says there were 63 vehicles per page, or about 3,000 records or more in the report.

On page 23 of 53, There is a Mitchell Kessel listed as a white Ford F-150 vehicle.

Another document produced by an information request was of the vehicle belonging to Mitchell Maurice Kessel, containing the model year, license plate and other registration information. The registration expiration for the vehicle was May 21, 2019.

10:15 a.m.: The Chad Isaak trial resumes, Judge David Reich presiding.

Judge David Reich


9:53 a.m.: Judge David Reich calls for a 20-minute morning break. The trial will resume at 10:15 a.m.

9:51 a.m.: Murschel testifies if a person had call forwarding, it would be possible to have a person with the cellphone to receive a call on another phone. On the West River call log for Chad Isaak, Murschel says on April 1, 2019, the first phone call made from the chiropractic phone was 5:59 p.m. On March 25, the first outgoing call was at 3:56 p.m. Says calls could indicate someone receiving a call on an answering machine and not a person physically answering the call.

9:42 a.m.: Witness called — Jody Murschel, West River Telecommunications network manager. Says he received from law enforcement a search warrant for information related to Chad Isaak’s account with them.

Witness Jody Murschel
Murschel says the records included received and outgoing calls. He then wrote a letter with the documents and e-mailed them to the Mandan Police Department. Says the log shows a call was received at 8:51 a.m. on April 1, 2019.

9:38 a.m.: Cross-examination by prosecuting attorney Karlei Neufeld. Sorenson says she doesn’t know Isaak very well outside the patient-doctor relationship. Never got together with him outside of work. Wouldn’t consider herself a friend of his. Had no idea what Isaak’s hobbies were, what he did in his spare time.

During the rescheduled 4:00 p.m. appointment on April 1, 2019, Sorenson she says Isaak didn’t mention his dentist appointment or how it went. He didn’t mention anything about his mouth. Outside of Isaak telling her he had a dentist appointment, she says has no knowledge if he was at the dentist.

 

[TTF14]

I get the impression/feeling that he thought he was so much smarter than everyone else and he'd never get caught. Probably watching hours of crime shows and reading everything he could to try and get by with this. It didn't work.

Agree. I think he's probably really mad at himself for the mistakes he made.

 

[trialobsessive]

Mr Quick has done a runner?!??
Interesting timing?

 

[trialobsessive]

Mr Quick has done a runner?!??
Interesting timing?

This is meant in jest, by the way as I’m aware it could be medical/personal matter so no malice intended in my comment…

 

[Gardenista]

Prosecution busted him on his alibi. Jury better get this right.

 

[trialobsessive]

I would be baffled if the jury comes back with a not guilty verdict.

 

[dgolden]

Thank you SO much!!!

I love reading your updates!

 

[Seattle1]

Wednesday, August 18 - END OF Day 11 - LIVE TRIAL BLOG

1:26 p.m.: Both sides have agreed on the jury instructions and the verdict form to be used. Both sides are discussing how long the closing arguments will run (defense, state and rebuttal arguments). Judge Reich anticipates a jury break between each argument presented, then a lunch break, followed by instructions to the jury and then the jury will begin deliberations. He says if the jury is still deliberating late Thursday, he will likely send them home around 5:00 p.m., and then have them resume on Friday morning. If they are close to a verdict late Thursday afternoon, he may let them continue for a few more hours into the evening. He is also considering having the jury deliberate on Saturday if they still have not yet reached a verdict, but he would play that by ear.

1:20 p.m.: At this point, the judge and the attorneys for both sides are discussing what information should go into the jury instructions.

1:19 p.m.: Judge David Reich excuses the jury for the rest of the day. The trial will resume with closing arguments starting at 8:30 a.m., Thursday, August 19.

Judge David Reich
1:18 p.m.: The state re-rests. That concludes the evidentiary portion of the trial.

1:17 p.m.: Says Chad Isaak took his records with him each time he left from an appointment.

1:16 p.m.: Re-direct by prosecuting attorney Karlei Neufeld. Johansen says how often a patient comes to the dentist office is up to the patient. Says if a patient goes elsewhere, they usually get a request from the new dentist for dental records. Says she never received a request from another dental place for Chad Isaak’s dental records.

1:15 p.m.: Cross exam by defense attorney Luke Heck. Johansen says the last time Isaak was at Beulah Dental was in May 2017. Says Isaak was a regular patient prior to May 2017. He was a regular patient every six months prior to May 2017.

1:12 p.m.: Rebuttal witness called — Lisa Johansen. Works at Beulah Dental as the office manager. Has worked there 17 years. Worked there in 2019. Says she was contacted by a BCI agent asking if Chad Isaak had an appointment on April 1, 2019. Says Chad Isaak is a patient of Beulah Dental. Says Isaak did not have an appointment for April 1, 2019.

Rebuttal witness Lisa Johansen
1:11 p.m.: Re-cross by Heck. Says if there’s only one dental card in a home that doesn’t that mean that’s the only dental office the suspect could visit.

1:10 p.m.: Re-direct. The only evidence in the Chad Isaak home for dentists was for just Beulah Dental.

1:09 p.m.: Cross-examination by defense attorney Luke Keck. Heck asks if he knows of dental offices in Washburn Center, Turtle Lake, Hazen. Mandan, Bismarck. The only location he called was Beulah Dental.

1:06 p.m.: Rebuttal witness called — BCI special agent Matt Hiatt. Direct examination by prosecuting attorney Karlei Neufeld. Since he was based out of the Washburn office, he conducted interviews with Chad Isaak’s clients. Said two appointments with Chad Isaak had been rescheduled due to Isaak saying he had a dentist appointment by Chad Isaak. Says when they searched Isaak’s home, they located a business card for Beulah Dental. Says he contacted Beulah Dental to see if Chad Isaak had a dentist appointment on the m morning of April 1, 2019.

Rebuttal witness Matt Hiatt

1:02 p.m.: The Chad Isaak trial resumes, Judge David Reich presiding. The state, or prosecution, can now call rebuttal witnesses or evidence.

10:49 a.m.: Judge David Reich recesses the trial for the noon break. The trial will resume at 1:00 p.m.

10:48 a.m.: The defense rests.

10:44 a.m.: The judge and the attorneys are discussing the introduction by the defense of a particular document, a domestic violence protection order for Lisa Nelson. The defense said it was relevant to the defense case. The state argued it was impermissible character evidence given there had been no testimony about her ex-husband or foundation laid for the document. The judge was concerned about introducing a piece of evidence without a witness and that it could be confusing to the jury. After the discussion, the defense withdrew its request to introduce the evidence.

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[KidonGadol]

I get the impression/feeling that he thought he was so much smarter than everyone else and he'd never get caught. Probably watching hours of crime shows and reading everything he could to try and get by with this. It didn't work.

spot on .. for instance he knew that if the firing pin for the revolver was not available for testing then having the 38 SPL fired cases in the house could not pin him to the scene.... But you know if he took those in a plastic bag and dumped them in the bin of another mobile home on that site.. even if the cops found them they could not have tied those to him.

Unless he has reloading gear for 38 ammo, why keep any cases ? - they are useless to him (if say he was shooting at targets, he could have reasonably collected the cases but if they have no reuse value - why not just leave them where they were ejected from the revolver). Revolver ejection is a controlled manual act, nothing like what a semi auto does.

Why keep half the revolver (just the bottom grip frame ) if there was a quad murder in the same state 50 km down the road ? ...

Even if I had NOTHING to do with such a crime , if I had half a revolver that could have been used - I'd have taken it out and dug a hole in the woods and dumped it just to be sure the crime was not pinned on me.

 

[KidonGadol]

Mr Quick has done a runner?!??
Interesting timing?

It is not a funny as it sounds.. CTI tried to sack old man Brian Quick from Vogel law group in Fargo early on in the trial process (before the main trial) . Then he changed is mind.

Quick , based on his opening address old Quick had all his ducks in arrow and was far more impressive than preppy school girl sound alike Ms K Neufeld. Which just shows how impulsive CTI can be - lack of foresight.

I still say that what has been presented is very circumstantial viz:

None of the DNA evidence was solid.

CTI was NEVER tied to the Dodge Ram stolen from the RJR premises. If he were it would be game over.

CTI's vehicle was never conclusively found to be in Mandan on that day - no number plate . No corroborated sighting . No cell tower records showing his vehicle being driven there or driven away on 1st April. Just ghostly low quality CCTV images.

Nobody ever proved that the Ruger 357 weapon had been bleached.


I'm pretty sure that this might go to appeal.

Kidon Gadol.

 

[KidonGadol]

BCI AGENT ARNIE RUMMEL from this case has " Form "

For those who suspected that Arnie was a bit of loose cannon - here's a backgrounder - read the report down below .

IN this case he siezed a disputed Payloader and gave it back to the chap who said he owned it.

The Payloader is now believed to be "down Mexico way". Seriously - it has been on sold now.

So the other party is as mad as hell.

Rummel decided he knew who was lying and who was not - Arnie don't need no FOOL Judge to tell him what's right and wrong..... )

NB this considerably pre dates the Chad Isaak case.




NEWS
Jamestown BCI agent returns to duty
A Jamestown man employed by the North Dakota Bureau of Criminal Investigation has returned to full duty after criminal charges against him were dropped in Dickey County, according to information from the North Dakota Attorney General's Office.Arn...
Written By: Keith Norman / Jamestown Sun | 6:05 am, Apr. 5, 2016


A Jamestown man employed by the North Dakota Bureau of Criminal Investigation has returned to full duty after criminal charges against him were dropped in Dickey County, according to information from the North Dakota Attorney General’s Office.

Arnie Rummel had faced charges of misapplication of entrusted property and public servant refusing to perform duty, Class A misdemeanors punishable by one year in prison and a $3,000 fine.

Rummel was charged in Southeast District Court in Ellendale in September 2015 by Gary Neuharth, Dickey County state’s attorney. The charges were dismissed on March 14.

Neuharth did not return a call seeking comment on the case.

“Agent Rummel is a seasoned and valued BCI agent who has worked in law enforcement in North Dakota for more than 34 years,” said Wayne Stenehjem, North Dakota attorney general. “Now that this matter has been resolved, he will return to full duty.”

The charges stemmed from a May 2014 incident when Rummel served a search warrant on Darrell Schrum of Forbes, N.D., looking for a stolen payloader. The payloader was recovered and confirmed as stolen, although Schrum claimed he had verified through his insurance company the machine was not stolen at the time of purchase and the loader was not reported stolen until a month after his purchase, according to North Dakota Supreme Court documents.

Schrum claimed to have made the purchase in good faith from an individual in Iowa through Ebay.

After the seizure, Rummel turned the payloader over to a third-party trucking company. The payloader was removed from the area and has not been located since.

In November 2014, Judge Daniel Narum found Rummel and the North Dakota attorney general in contempt of court when they were not able to return the loader to Dickey County while the question of ownership was settled. The court ordered Rummel and the North Dakota Attorney General’s Office to pay about $54,000 in damages to Schrum.

The North Dakota Supreme Court overturned the order in February 2015 and remanded the case back to East Central District Court for reconsideration. The appeal ruling said that Schrum should seek damages from the person who sold him the loader rather than Rummel or the attorney general’s office.

Documents filed in support of the appeal by the attorney general’s office said Schrum had been informed before he made the purchase that the very same payloader had been sold earlier through another website for delivery to Mexico.

The appeals brief by the attorney general’s office also said listing the payloader as stolen was delayed because the case was initially believed to be a business dispute rather than an outright theft.

The contempt of court case was remanded to Judge Frank Racek of the East Central Judicial District in Fargo. In February, Racek ordered Rummel to pay a $500 fine for allowing the payloader to be removed from the area, but awarded no damages in the case.

Currently, Schrum has a pending claim against the state of North Dakota and Rummel for the value of the payloader, according to Mark Friese, Schrum’s attorney. Friese said a civil suit is possible in the case if the state does not pay the pending claim.

 

[Seattle1]

Mr Quick has done a runner?!??
Interesting timing?

Not sure what you're referring to on this date? Isaak filed a bar complaint against Mr. Robert Quick, causing him to withdraw from the case and granted by the court but that happened long before the trial started.

Man accused of killing 4 in Mandan could lose defense team after filing complaint | INFORUM

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Quick said his hands are tied because Isaak filed the disciplinary complaint with the North Dakota Disciplinary Board. The motion to withdraw also would force Judge David Reich to dismiss Vogel Law Firm as Isaak's defense team.

Isaak told Reich he was not aware that Vogel lawyers Luke Heck and Drew Hushka would be taken off the case because he filed the complaint. He added he filed a “nonsense complaint” against Quick to get him off the case, but he would withdraw it if it meant keeping Heck and Hushka.

“Neither attorney Heck nor attorney Hushka have ever given me any reason to file a complaint against their licenses,” Isaak said.

Isaak also said he has not fired Quick.

Reasons behind Isaak filing the complaint were not disclosed in court. The Disciplinary Board could not confirm whether it received Isaak’s complaint, which would be exempt from open record laws.

Quick said even if Isaak withdraws his complaint, the wheels are in motion to investigate it. That means Quick has a conflict of interest that prevents him from continuing as Isaak's attorney.

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[Seattle1]

Court TV recap 8/18/21

8/18/21 Quadruple Murder in a Small Town: Defense Rests - Court TV

 

[TTF14]

Prosecution busted him on his alibi. Jury better get this right.

They will. Worst case scenario, which is very unlikely, hung jury. CCTV all over, clothes in dryer, alibi unable to be corroborated (not even an attempt).....guilty. All that's missing is motive.

 

[trialobsessive]

It is not a funny as it sounds.. CTI tried to sack old man Brian Quick from Vogel law group in Fargo early on in the trial process (before the main trial) . Then he changed is mind.

Really not sure why you’re telling me this, I’m aware that CI filed a complaint against Robert Quick who was excused from the case, then asked to represent himself but backtracked. Dunno anything about him trying to sack Bruce Quick but as I wasn’t discussing this in my post, it’s not relevant.

I was referring to Bruce Quick not being present after the lunch recess for the state rebuttal, that’s all.

Pretty sure I’ve already stated previously how impressed I was with Bruce Quick in his opening.

 

[trialobsessive]

Not sure what you're referring to on this date? Isaak filed a bar complaint against Mr. Robert Quick, causing him to withdraw from the case and granted by the court but that happened long before the trial started.

I was referring to the fact that Bruce Quick wasn’t present following the lunch recess for state rebuttal, nothing to do with Robert Quick and the complaint being filed which I was already aware of.

So, I’m not sure why you’re referring to this on this date.

 

[Seattle1]

I was referring to the fact that Bruce Quick wasn’t present following the lunch recess for state rebuttal, nothing to do with Robert Quick and the complaint being filed which I was already aware of.

So, I’m not sure why you’re referring to this on this date.

Thanks for your reply.
I saw Bruce Q today at the defense table all morning until lunch recess but did not see the short, state rebuttal, and was not aware that he was not present.