NE NE - Corrie Wood, 28, Grant, 20 September 2008 #1

[BJH]

Thanks steadfast, i'm glad to be here. I heard from a very reliable source that there were 10 phone calls made from corrie's phone to scotts phone with in 10 mins. The last call was at 1:43 in the morning. I wonder what the time of death was? Also when i call my husband that many times in a short amount of time i'm always pissed and fighting with him. Something to think about.

 

[rbd]

The above times on the phone calls are incorrect. There were 9 calls to ONE of Scotts phones and they started at 1:36 and end at 1:42.

 

[mmleikam]

See this where we differ...I understand that it is hard to hear the "tone" of voice on messages boards, this is why I posted it. If I was going to be condesending and wanted someone to REALLY know it, I usually would post in parathesis *dripping with sarcasm* -- So, I will say it again, I am not being rude nor was that my intention. I am stating it and you don't have to believe me if you don't want to. Because I have lived in big cities alone did not make me qualified to know everything about "crime" - did you read what I said about my education and backround - then put me in the big city!! Sheesh. :banghead:

You read way too much into what I said. Where in any of my postings did I say that you said that living in big cities alone made you qualified? I was just saying that I have lived in crime ridden cities myself. Basically I just wanted to point out that because I live in a small town currently doesn't make me some country bumpkin that is naive to the criminal life.

 

[mmleikam]

MMLEIKAM:
Ok, I am done trying to explain this to you because you are obviously easily confused about this...I know that drugs were not involved in this case I was saying that it could have been a crime scene without blood because you said that since there was not blood all over they did not think it was suspicious...It's really not that hard to understand. I did know Corrie very well and I'm done discussing this with you because you didn't know her yet you are trying to make it sound as though you know everything there is to know just because you live 4 blocks away...I am mourning the loss of a close friend and even more than that if you want to get technical so the last thing I need to do is deal with a person such as yourself that is just being straight up rude acting like you know everything when in fact you don't, you just happen to live in the same neighborhood...

I'm not acting like I know everything about this because I live in the same neighborhood. I wouldn't even be here if one of my close friends wasn't involved in the case. The girl that drove her home...I've known her for a very long time and she's practically family.

That and I'm sick of people bashing the town I live in. I'm disappointed in how the LE and EMTs dealt with this, but it's too late to do anything about it so b*tching and moaning is pointless. I know I shouldn't expect much out of the police department here (especially Brueggeman) because the last time something like this happened, they were just kids. (ETA: That came out wrong...I know they have training when they become police officers, I'm just saying, this is the first time for all of them. Sorry...had to reword).

I'm not trying to be rude. I'm tired of being talked down to because I don't have some fancy criminal degree and I didn't know Corrie. This is MY town and I'll defend it and the people that live here if I want. I want to know who killed Corrie too so I can decide whether or not it's okay to let my 5 year old outside on his own. I want to know who killed Corrie so I can decide if the friends we have are worth being friends with. I want to know who killed Corrie because it's eating at a lot of people that I love because her case is so screwed up.

 

[mmleikam]

We do not attack other posters here. Discuss the facts of the case, do not direct your comments at each other.

I'm sorry, I didn't read this post until after I posted my last few responses. I apologize.

 

[NSC]

The above times on the phone calls are incorrect. There were 9 calls to ONE of Scotts phones and they started at 1:36 and end at 1:42.

If there are this many phone calls in that short of a time frame. That would lead me to believe that she wasn't fighting off an attacker at the time, otherwise she wouldn't have had time to call him so many times. UNLESS, she was locked in a bathroom or something but wouldn't there have been some type of physical evidence if a door was broken down??? My hunch, intoxicated drunk dialing out of anger. Someone mentioned the bars shutdown at 1:30am. So, she would be expecting to see him at this time or at least hearing from him. If what has been reported is true, she left earlier with a friend. Scenario 1: Scott left the bar before it closed and came home right after her last call to him - they got into it! Scenario 2: She got in her car to try and find him?? Long shot. Well, there are a ton of scenarios but I still need some more pieces to the puzzle.

 

[mmleikam]

If there are this many phone calls in that short of a time frame. That would lead me to believe that she wasn't fighting off an attacker at the time, otherwise she wouldn't have had time to call him so many times. UNLESS, she was locked in a bathroom or something but wouldn't there have been some type of physical evidence if a door was broken down??? My hunch, intoxicated drunk dialing out of anger. Someone mentioned the bars shutdown at 1:30am. So, she would be expecting to see him at this time or at least hearing from him. If what has been reported is true, she left earlier with a friend. Scenario 1: Scott left the bar before it closed and came home right after her last call to him - they got into it! Scenario 2: She got in her car to try and find him?? Long shot. Well, there are a ton of scenarios but I still need some more pieces to the puzzle.

Your last theory is interesting...that might explain why they listed the Expedition in the Crimestoppers report. (For some reason, the rest of my message is missing. I went on to say that if they left at 1:30 when the bar was kicking everyone out, then it's at least a 20 minute drive to Grant, depending on how he was driving. If he was hurrying, then it could be closer to 1:30 that he got back to Grant, or if he was taking it easy, going slow and cautiously, it may have been closer to 2:00.)

djkbs0416, can you verify that the Expedition was indeed Corrie's? My husband said that he thought Scott had said something about them buying one, but he wasn't sure if they had yet or something. I'm not sure of the exact conversation; I'd have to ask him when he got home. I could be totally wrong about that conversation, but my husband said he wasn't positive about who the Expedition belonged to, but that he was sure the truck in the Crimestoppers report was Scott's and that the Stratus is the friend's.

 

[NSC]

I am pretty certain the expedition was hers. You can see it on some of her myspace pictures.

 

[STEADFAST]

Okay, so let's make a timeline.
Corrie, Scott, and friends are in the bar. From 2030 (8:30 pm) http://www.omaha.com/index.php?u_page=2798&u_sid=10440940 to when?
Bar closes. 0130
Corrie leaves bar with female friend. 12:30 pm(?)
Scott leaves bar. When?
Cluster of phone calls from Corrie to Scott. 0136-0142
Friend drops Corrie off at home. 0150 (?)
Scott arrives (at other house??) When?
Weren't there calls from the female friend to Scott or vice versa? When did that happen?
Body found (I forget -- I'll look back and edit this.)
911 call. When?
Police at house. When to when?
House cleaned. From when to when?
Corrie's myspace tampered with. When?

I'll fill in any blanks I can find and feel free to copy and edit it as you find info or need to correct this.

Looks like maybe Corrie's calls to Scott were placed while she was on the way home maybe.

ETA I'm going to add a link to any times I didn't get from this thread.

 

[rbd]

She left the bar around 12:30 from what I understand.

Ok. So I am going to put my ideas out there even though I have been hesitant, but it may give someone else an idea... this is only my theory. She left the bar with said female... said female dropped her off at home. Don't know what happened from then until 1:36, but then phone calls were made. Assuming she and Scott were arguing, she tried to call him several times. In these phone calls he never answered. Scott also has a second phone which was not dialed in these nine calls. If it were me and I was trying to get ahold of my sig other (even in drunken dialing) wouldnt you at least try to call the other phone? So that is left unknown. Did she make the calls is the next question or was it someone else or Scott himself? He goes home... or she met him somewhere... and that's when the murder goes down. He realizes what he has done or doesn't and leaves. If he realized what he did he has to go get a game plan to save his ... or if he didn't then he passed out where ever and finds out when he gets home.

 

[Poker Chips]

I am wondering if there is any DNA eveidence that was collected at the scene or the full autopsy. Just because there has been no official statement about it doesn't mean there isn't any. If so, that could explain the delay. Also, how did the phone log get to be public information??? Someone that works for the cellphone company could be in big trouble over that one if that's where it came from. I would also like to know what the toxicology report came up with. Depending on the amount of alcohol remaining in the blood might help determine the time of death.

 

[soyesterday]

I think that's a good point. I don't think i realized that Scott never answered those calls from Corrie's phone. MAYBE they weren't actually from her.

 

[Bobbisangel]

If Corrie had been calling Scott and he wasn't answering because he was still ticked off at her...if they did have an argument at the bar and she left...then she was probably good and ticked off by the time he showed up at the house.
I know I would have been. I think they started fighting again and his hot temper got the best of him and he ended up killing her. Maybe he didn't mean to but I think that is what happened. It's called murder either way you look at it. It does sound like his temper gets away with itself pretty easily.

I still don't understand how a person can be beaten about the head and body and look normal in death. There wouldn't have to be blood all over the room or bed but you should be able to look at her and tell that something had happened to her. She couldn't have looked alright. I remember some of her friends saying that the casket was closed. Unless that is the tradition in Corrie's family...it is in mine...then it was closed for a reason. Anyone here go to the service?

If Corrie got out of bed when Scott came home then he must have put her back in bed after she died. That way he could say that he came home and found her dead in bed. If there was any sign of a fight or struggle he must have straightened the bedroom up. I don't think that anyone else was involved and I doubt that Scott has admitted anything to anyone. It's just a matter of time until he is arrested in my opinion.

 

[NSC]

She left the bar around 12:30 from what I understand.

Ok. So I am going to put my ideas out there even though I have been hesitant, but it may give someone else an idea... this is only my theory. She left the bar with said female... said female dropped her off at home. Don't know what happened from then until 1:36, but then phone calls were made. Assuming she and Scott were arguing, she tried to call him several times. In these phone calls he never answered. Scott also has a second phone which was not dialed in these nine calls. If it were me and I was trying to get ahold of my sig other (even in drunken dialing) wouldnt you at least try to call the other phone? So that is left unknown. Did she make the calls is the next question or was it someone else or Scott himself? He goes home... or she met him somewhere... and that's when the murder goes down. He realizes what he has done or doesn't and leaves. If he realized what he did he has to go get a game plan to save his ... or if he didn't then he passed out where ever and finds out when he gets home.

Okay, maybe she didn't call the 2nd number because she knew it was off or maybe she knew he didn't have it with him. Also, maybe she continued to call because she was angry -- do we know if he ever called her back?? If so, maybe they had angry words on the phone and then he ended up coming back to the house where they got into it!! Or maybe she found something out devastating from someone that night - Or we could just stick to the original story that they were in an arguement at the bar -- She is leaving him -- She has everything in her name, business, cars etc.. Scott it is confirmed has no assets --It is also public record that he filed Chapter 13 bankrupcy leaving him not able to get any credit of his own. So, Scott looses in the end. She walks back to her life.

 

[STEADFAST]

Somewhere on this thread or in a news story, it was reported that Scott left the bar before she did. Anybody know for sure?

 

[djkbs0416]

If Corrie had been calling Scott and he wasn't answering because he was still ticked off at her...if they did have an argument at the bar and she left...then she was probably good and ticked off by the time he showed up at the house.
I know I would have been. I think they started fighting again and his hot temper got the best of him and he ended up killing her. Maybe he didn't mean to but I think that is what happened. It's called murder either way you look at it. It does sound like his temper gets away with itself pretty easily.

I still don't understand how a person can be beaten about the head and body and look normal in death. There wouldn't have to be blood all over the room or bed but you should be able to look at her and tell that something had happened to her. She couldn't have looked alright. I remember some of her friends saying that the casket was closed. Unless that is the tradition in Corrie's family...it is in mine...then it was closed for a reason. Anyone here go to the service?

If Corrie got out of bed when Scott came home then he must have put her back in bed after she died. That way he could say that he came home and found her dead in bed. If there was any sign of a fight or struggle he must have straightened the bedroom up. I don't think that anyone else was involved and I doubt that Scott has admitted anything to anyone. It's just a matter of time until he is arrested in my opinion.

I was at Corrie's funeral and she did have a closed casket. This was no tradition it was closed because of the way she looked. There was suppose to be a public viewing the day before the funeral at the funeral home but that was changed. Only the family was able to view her and that was it.

Also I would like to know exactly where this information came from about the phone calls, I have not heard this from someone reliable yet so I'm going to have to do some checking into this one.

 

[MissieMt]

Sadly, I find it really hard to get involved in this thread because there is a lot of "rumor" and arguing to sift through before you can get to any facts. I'm not trying to offend anyone-just trying to explain my absence.
Anyways, I just wanted to throw a thought out there:
Maybe she was trying to contact him because she heard a noise, or saw something.
I know when my husband is not around if I hear a noise or something he is the first person I call (maybe it should be 911, but it's just instinct for me to call him). Maybe she kept trying to call him, maybe he didn't answer because he was already passed out or if he was in a car the music was too loud or something. Either way, perhaps she was forced to stop calling when the suspect began attacking her.

 

[Poker Chips]

As far as the closed casket, we have to remember she went through two autopsies. That in itself, regardless of cause of death, might explain that.
I hate to bring up drugs again but if she was using or something was slipped into a drink, along with the alcohol, what state was she in when taken home. Did she need help getting in the house? Was she even able to navigate on her own? Again, the toxicology report would have that information and in my opinion, would also let us know if she was even able to get in a vehicle and go look for Scott or defend herself from attack.
I am also wondering why, if even an idiot was suppose to notice it was a crime scene, did the friends even want to disturb the scene. If they were trying to "Cover Up", cover up what, the police had already been there. From what I can gather, it did not seem suspious to the numerous people (Law Enforcement, Emergency Personnel, and Coroner) called to the scene. It was released, then later closed off after the report came back. She was sent for autopsy to determine if it were in fact alcohol poisoning or drugs because of no outward sign of violence. With the blood thinning effect of alcohol, just how badly was she beaten? Where was she struck in the head? Front, back, face? Two or three blows to the head and body might be enough to cause massive bleeding from internal injuries or concussion.
I also wonder where the magic age is that you quit thinking it is a suspious death. I keep hearing they should have know because she was only 28. Does that mean anyone over the age of 35, 40, 50 just dies of old age?
Another statement was made that Scott had not left the house in weeks (Posted 10/16). That is not quite accurate. He was arrested and bonded out of the Keith County Jail Oct 13th. This can be verified by going to the Keith County Jail site. I don't know what agency arrested him as Perkins County does not have a jail so prisoners are transported to Keith County. It does not say what for, but I understand it was DUI and driving under suspension.

 

[STEADFAST]

As far as the closed casket, we have to remember she went through two autopsies. That in itself, regardless of cause of death, might explain that.
I hate to bring up drugs again but if she was using or something was slipped into a drink, along with the alcohol, what state was she in when taken home. Did she need help getting in the house? Was she even able to navigate on her own? Again, the toxicology report would have that information and in my opinion, would also let us know if she was even able to get in a vehicle and go look for Scott or defend herself from attack.
I am also wondering why, if even an idiot was suppose to notice it was a crime scene, did the friends even want to disturb the scene. If they were trying to "Cover Up", cover up what, the police had already been there. From what I can gather, it did not seem suspious to the numerous people (Law Enforcement, Emergency Personnel, and Coroner) called to the scene. It was released, then later closed off after the report came back. She was sent for autopsy to determine if it were in fact alcohol poisoning or drugs because of no outward sign of violence. With the blood thinning effect of alcohol, just how badly was she beaten? Where was she struck in the head? Front, back, face? Two or three blows to the head and body might be enough to cause massive bleeding from internal injuries or concussion.
I also wonder where the magic age is that you quit thinking it is a suspious death. I keep hearing they should have know because she was only 28. Does that mean anyone over the age of 35, 40, 50 just dies of old age?
Another statement was made that Scott had not left the house in weeks (Posted 10/16). That is not quite accurate. He was arrested and bonded out of the Keith County Jail Oct 13th. This can be verified by going to the Keith County Jail site. I don't know what agency arrested him as Perkins County does not have a jail so prisoners are transported to Keith County. It does not say what for, but I understand it was DUI and driving under suspension.

Here's an excerpt that answers some of the questions you have about the crime scene. " . . . Therefore, extreme care must be exercised to preserve and protect the scene, because even the smallest detail can suddenly assume vital importance in the case. Failure to implement proper crime scene techniques may irreparably damage the investigation. I have found that the best course of action is to treat each dead-body call like a criminal homicide until the facts prove differently.
. . .
If the crime scene is indoors, the job of securing the location is relatively easy to accomplish. It may be as simple as closing the door. The biggest problem is removing unauthorized people from the scene. The investigation should begin with the walkway and front entrance to the structure. These areas and the location where the body lies should be considered part of the scene and appropriately secured. "
Vernon J. Geberth, M.S., M.P.S., retired from the NYPD Homicide Division with the rank of lieutenant commander. He can be reached at www.practicalhomicide.com. These copyrighted materials have been excerpted with permission of the author from Practical Homicide Investigation: Tactics, Procedures, and Forensic Techniques.
http://www.hendonpub.com/resources/articlearchive/details.aspx?ID=826


I would think that anyone found dead, especially if they are under the average life expectancy and haven't been under a doctor's care for a fatal illness, would be treated as a suspicious death.

 

[Poker Chips]

Thanks Steadfast. I totally agree with the post. That is what I meant when I asked what the magic age was. Be it 28 or whatever, if the cause is unknown, explore all avenues. I might not always express my opinion so others understand and probably am taken out of context.