NE NE - Corrie Wood, 28, Grant, 20 September 2008 #1

[cloudajo]

My theory -

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I think that Corrie was not beaten with hands, i think she may have been kicked, and not in the face, only the head and the body. She either fell, was pushed or thrown to the ground and then kicked repeatedly. This would explain why no one had any signs of being in an altercation on their hands. Had the police report not said beaten about the head and body, I could easily believe that Corrie was thrown or pushed into something, or the ground and hit her head.

Good point about possibly being kicked. I hadn't thought of that.

 

[cloudajo]

As you may know, someone claiming to be Scott on Blue Crime posted earlier (since removed) that he gave DNA, fingernail clippings, hair samples, and was put under some type of light to check his entire body. Would that be a forensice light source described below?
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What is a Forensic Light Source?

A forensic light source is a crime scene investigator’s and lab technician’s tool for enhancing observation, photography and collection of evidence including latent fingerprints, body fluids, hair and fibers, bruises, bite marks, wound patterns, shoe and foot imprints, gun shot residues, drug traces, questioned documents, bone fragment detection, etc... It provides more sensitivity than traditional methods thus increasing the amount of evidence uncovered and the quality of the evidence photographed and collected.

A forensic light source is made up of a powerful lamp containing the ultra-violet, visible and infrared components of light. It then filters down the light into individual color bands (wavelengths) that enhance the visualization of evidence by light interaction techniques including fluorescence (evidence glows), absorption (evidence darkens), and oblique lighting (small particle evidence revealed).

BRUISES / BITE MARKS / PATTERN WOUNDS
A tunable or multiple color band (wavelength) forensic light source reveal bruise and patterned wound details that are invisible under normal white light illumination. Details of a bruise pattern in a suspects palm can link a suspect to a weapon. Furthermore, details of a bruise on a victim, for instance, a bite mark or a shoe mark, can link a suspect to the victim. Multiple color bands (wavelengths) are necessary because different colors penetrate to different depths within the skin and therefore depending on the depth of the bruise or wound you will need to vary the color band (wavelength) of the instrument. Deep wounds may require infrared illumination to get enough skin penetration.

http://www.crimescope.com/march%2015/Applications.htm

 

[cloudajo]

If anyone has any other insights on this, please share.

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Estimating Time of Death (TOD)
Medical investigators look for various signs to help them estimate a time frame - usually a two to four-hour window of time - in which the victim probably died. These signs may include the following:

• Rigor mortis (the stiffening of the muscles that occurs shortly after death)
• Lividity (pooling of blood)
• Body core temperature
• Clouding of the corneas
• Evidence of a decompositional process
• Presence/absence of purge fluid
• Drying of the tissues

http://www.trutv.com/shows/forensic_files/techniques/tod.html

Another site:

In cases of suspicious deaths, the first priority is to establish the time of death. The usual way of doing this is to take the internal temperature of the body. This is always measured because externally the body will feel cold to touch from an early stage. For the first hour after death, the body temperature will fall from its normal level (of about 98.6 degrees Fahrenheit) at a rate of roughly one and a half to two degrees per hour for the first twelve hours. This depends on the build of the victim, the amount of clothing or covering, and the temperature around them- if, for instance, the body is in the water the temperature will fall much quicker.

There are also other signs that can help with determining the time of death. Usually about two hours of the person dying, rigor mortis sets in. Which is a Latin term meaning "the stiffness of death". The internal chemistry of the body changes from its normal acid state to an alkaline one. This causes the muscles which were once relaxed at the time of death to tense and stiffen. Rigor mortis begins with the eyelids and then progresses to the muscles of the face, and then to the arms, torso and finally the legs. Within twelve hours rigor mortis has been fully established and the body is stiff and as unbending as a block of unbending wood. The body can remain in this condition for any time between twelve and forty-eight hours, until the body returns to a natural acid state. This reverse process affects the muscles in the same order in which rigor mortis stiffened them from the eyelids to the legs.

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Another indication as to the time of death is called liver mortis, or 'the bruising of death'. This is when the heart stops beating, and blood stops circulating. The red blood cells descend by the force of gravity to the parts of the body that are closest to the ground. This turns a bruised colour from about two hours after death. If the body is not moved, this colouration fixes as the red blood cells break down and separate into the surrounding tissue.

http://everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=1501608

 

[cloudajo]

Attached for reference is pic of a map with points of interest.

 

[RCT]

proudmama writes
"I am really curious to know what exactly was on the sheets. Vomit comes to mind. vomit could have been what led the initial LE to think it was a drug overdose or alcohol poisoning. BUT vomitting also occurs when severe head injuries happen, which would fit into my theory. I just really struggle with what was on the sheets that someone would think it could wash out, but the stain remained. If it was blood, I cant see anyone thinking it would wash out or even want to keep the sheets, not to mention I cant see any LE missing blood at a death scene. "

My theory is - it was vomit, this may be why the sheriff was okay with them washing sheets. Correct me if I am wrong, but I have not read that Scott found Corrie dead in bed. I believe it says she was found dead in the home. I think people may have gotten side tracked with the washing of the sheets and assumed she was in the bed. I find it hard to believe the sheriff was ok with sheet washing if the body was actually found in the bed!

 

[STEADFAST]

My theory is - it was vomit, this may be why the sheriff was okay with them washing sheets. Correct me if I am wrong, but I have not read that Scott found Corrie dead in bed. I believe it says she was found dead in the home. I think people may have gotten side tracked with the washing of the sheets and assumed she was in the bed. I find it hard to believe the sheriff was ok with sheet washing if the body was actually found in the bed!

Even if Corrie was found somewhere else in the house, why would the sheriff be okay with anybody washing anything at the scene of an unexplained death? And why were friends okay with washing anything at that time and place? I think they did some general cleaning, not just sheet washing. I mean, I know the town isn't used to murders (although quite used to domestic assaults, come to find out), but I wish somebody had used some common sense.

 

[RCT]

Even if Corrie was found somewhere else in the house, why would the sheriff be okay with anybody washing anything at the scene of an unexplained death? And why were friends okay with washing anything at that time and place? I think they did some general cleaning, not just sheet washing. I mean, I know the town isn't used to murders (although quite used to domestic assaults, come to find out), but I wish somebody had used some common sense.

I think the sheriff probably thought she overdosed, (vomit on the sheets) and the friends may have used the sheet washing/general cleaning to get rid of anything else of questionable violation? I have a hard time believing a few men are really concerned about a clean house at this point!

 

[STEADFAST]

I think the sheriff probably thought she overdosed, (vomit on the sheets) and the friends may have used the sheet washing/general cleaning to get rid of anything else of questionable violation? I have a hard time believing a few men are really concerned about a clean house at this point!

I was just trying to be nice when I attributed the sheet washing to a lack of common sense. I really suspect the sheet washing and the cleaning were done to get rid of evidence.

 

[BJH]

I think that scott didn't have the intent to kill her that night but between drinking and being enraged it happened. I think that they were fighting at the bar and she wanted to go home, so red took her. I think that stopped at reds for whatever reason and then red took corrie home. I think that red knows scott killed her, but is scared to say because maybe she thinks scott will hurt her or her family or maybe scott has something hanging over her head. Jmo. I think that corrie called scott on his cell but he never answered. I think that because the phone calls were only 1 min and with in only mins of each other. I think that scott showed up at the house after red left, i think that red called him and said that she had gotten corrie home and in bed. I think that he beat her for a long period of time. I don't think that it was a couple of hits and she was gone. I believe that it took time. I believe that he kicked her repeatly while she was down on the ground, like a coward would have. I don't think she could have fought back becuase of how drunk she was, i knew corrie well enough that if she could have kicked the hell out of him she would have, but she was so small compared to him. I think that he put her back into bed and cleaned her up a bit, left the house to get a story called red and told her that it was a accident and she fell and hit her head or something and le would try and say it was a homicide and but the blame on him because of him past, i bet she believed him for awhile but then i bet she questioned him and then maybe he scared her. This is jmo.

 

[missellen]

The report stated that Scott found Corrie unresponsive. Presumably this means he wasn't sure if she was still alive, did he attempt CPR at all? I wonder what he was doing between the time he found her and phoned 911 and an hour later when they announced her death. I would have to be sedated if I found my husband in that state and had a bunch of strangers in my home poking at his unresponsive body. I would love to hear a tape of the 911 call.

 

[mmleikam]

For just a moment, I'm willing to give the friends at the crime scene the benefit of the doubt. I've had friends die before (car accidents, house fire and suicide) and I know that some of the friends and parents felt the need to get rid of any sign of the death. My friend that committed suicide...her mother got rid of everything that my friend had owned because it hurt her too much to have it around.

Perhaps the friends were doing something like that. Erasing the death for themselves. Not necessarily to cover anything up, but to ease their own pain.

Like I said, this is just a brief moment of giving them the benefit of the doubt.

 

[MCDRAW]

For just a moment, I'm willing to give the friends at the crime scene the benefit of the doubt. I've had friends die before (car accidents, house fire and suicide) and I know that some of the friends and parents felt the need to get rid of any sign of the death. My friend that committed suicide...her mother got rid of everything that my friend had owned because it hurt her too much to have it around.

Perhaps the friends were doing something like that. Erasing the death for themselves. Not necessarily to cover anything up, but to ease their own pain.

Like I said, this is just a brief moment of giving them the benefit of the doubt.

Personally, I think that should have been her parents decision not the "friends".

 

[NSC]

I think that scott didn't have the intent to kill her that night but between drinking and being enraged it happened. I think that they were fighting at the bar and she wanted to go home, so red took her. I think that stopped at reds for whatever reason and then red took corrie home. I think that red knows scott killed her, but is scared to say because maybe she thinks scott will hurt her or her family or maybe scott has something hanging over her head. Jmo. I think that corrie called scott on his cell but he never answered. I think that because the phone calls were only 1 min and with in only mins of each other. I think that scott showed up at the house after red left, i think that red called him and said that she had gotten corrie home and in bed. I think that he beat her for a long period of time. I don't think that it was a couple of hits and she was gone. I believe that it took time. I believe that he kicked her repeatly while she was down on the ground, like a coward would have. I don't think she could have fought back becuase of how drunk she was, i knew corrie well enough that if she could have kicked the hell out of him she would have, but she was so small compared to him. I think that he put her back into bed and cleaned her up a bit, left the house to get a story called red and told her that it was a accident and she fell and hit her head or something and le would try and say it was a homicide and but the blame on him because of him past, i bet she believed him for awhile but then i bet she questioned him and then maybe he scared her. This is jmo.

I think everyone is onto something with the "kicking" to death. Bravo for coming up with it -- I think Proudmama first mentioned this.
It makes complete sense with her injuries to have been kicked. I also think the above makes sense as well.

Here is my question of the day. If she was kicked to death - what was she wearing? Was she left in her clothes she was kicked to death in or did someone change her clothes? Were more than the sheets washed that morning?? Was her clothing destroyed??? Even if a pair of boots or shoes are "clean" -- there is usually still a dust layer that could leave track marks or something forensics could pick up on. Even if she was kicked with the side of a shoe, you would think they could match something up???

 

[NSC]

For just a moment, I'm willing to give the friends at the crime scene the benefit of the doubt. I've had friends die before (car accidents, house fire and suicide) and I know that some of the friends and parents felt the need to get rid of any sign of the death. My friend that committed suicide...her mother got rid of everything that my friend had owned because it hurt her too much to have it around.

Perhaps the friends were doing something like that. Erasing the death for themselves. Not necessarily to cover anything up, but to ease their own pain.

Like I said, this is just a brief moment of giving them the benefit of the doubt.

I could see this but not so quickly being done. And I agree with McDraw, why wasn't the family called ASAP, why the "friends"???

 

[BJH]

I think everyone is onto something with the "kicking" to death. Bravo for coming up with it -- I think Proudmama first mentioned this.
It makes complete sense with her injuries to have been kicked. I also think the above makes sense as well.

Here is my question of the day. If she was kicked to death - what was she wearing? Was she left in her clothes she was kicked to death in or did someone change her clothes? Were more than the sheets washed that morning?? Was her clothing destroyed??? Even if a pair of boots or shoes are "clean" -- there is usually still a dust layer that could leave track marks or something forensics could pick up on. Even if she was kicked with the side of a shoe, you would think they could match something up???

I AGREE WITH YOU ON THIS, WHERE ARE HER CLOTHES??? I WOULD THINK THAT THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN A SHOE PRINT BRUISE ON HER SOMEWHERE. :waitasec:

 

[BJH]

If anyone has any other insights on this, please share.

============
Estimating Time of Death (TOD)
Medical investigators look for various signs to help them estimate a time frame - usually a two to four-hour window of time - in which the victim probably died. These signs may include the following:

• Rigor mortis (the stiffening of the muscles that occurs shortly after death)
• Lividity (pooling of blood)
• Body core temperature
• Clouding of the corneas
• Evidence of a decompositional process
• Presence/absence of purge fluid
• Drying of the tissues

http://www.trutv.com/shows/forensic_files/techniques/tod.html

Another site:

In cases of suspicious deaths, the first priority is to establish the time of death. The usual way of doing this is to take the internal temperature of the body. This is always measured because externally the body will feel cold to touch from an early stage. For the first hour after death, the body temperature will fall from its normal level (of about 98.6 degrees Fahrenheit) at a rate of roughly one and a half to two degrees per hour for the first twelve hours. This depends on the build of the victim, the amount of clothing or covering, and the temperature around them- if, for instance, the body is in the water the temperature will fall much quicker.

There are also other signs that can help with determining the time of death. Usually about two hours of the person dying, rigor mortis sets in. Which is a Latin term meaning "the stiffness of death". The internal chemistry of the body changes from its normal acid state to an alkaline one. This causes the muscles which were once relaxed at the time of death to tense and stiffen. Rigor mortis begins with the eyelids and then progresses to the muscles of the face, and then to the arms, torso and finally the legs. Within twelve hours rigor mortis has been fully established and the body is stiff and as unbending as a block of unbending wood. The body can remain in this condition for any time between twelve and forty-eight hours, until the body returns to a natural acid state. This reverse process affects the muscles in the same order in which rigor mortis stiffened them from the eyelids to the legs.

[snipped]

Another indication as to the time of death is called liver mortis, or 'the bruising of death'. This is when the heart stops beating, and blood stops circulating. The red blood cells descend by the force of gravity to the parts of the body that are closest to the ground. This turns a bruised colour from about two hours after death. If the body is not moved, this colouration fixes as the red blood cells break down and separate into the surrounding tissue.

http://everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=1501608

THIS IS GREAT INFO!! GOOD JOB. IT MAKES ME WONDER HOW BAD LE MESSED THIS UP!!:furious:

 

[mmleikam]

Personally, I think that should have been her parents decision not the "friends".

That's true.

 

[RCT]

I also agree with the kicking. What doesn't click is him putting her back to bed or cleaning her up. Then going on blue crime hunter blog and admitting that he is the one writing on it. That part just seems "messy" to me.

 

[RCT]

Two different profiles?

 

[STEADFAST]

I also agree with the kicking. What doesn't click is him putting her back to bed or cleaning her up. Then going on blue crime hunter blog and admitting that he is the one writing on it. That part just seems "messy" to me.

Maybe he's one of those "disorganized" killers?

I wish we could hear the 911 call. And I wish we knew where exactly she was found. Among other things.