GUILTY NE - Kailee Clapp, 14, McCook, 13 Jan 2011

Makes sense Patty G. I can't understand any reason she would leave her house after she receives threatening text messages.

This is why I feel she was awake at that time. Normally if a text comes through at 3:30 AM, most would be sound asleep and perhaps the phone off so it can charge or whatever. Seems to me she was wide awake at that time.

Her cellphone records will tell the untold story.
 
His girlfriend is a minor, so us sleuthing her is a no, no. :)

Right! I thought maybe it was reported in MSM or posted in one of the many comment sections..I don't think it has been yet but should it be are we allowed to post this info or not? TIA!
 
Probably nothing, but when they were showing video of the bed, did anyone else notice the holes in the drywall?

No, but I did notice there was a few puffs (blankets) on the bed but NO sheets on the mattress. :waitasec:
 
I actually know a lot of people who leave their phones on at night in case of emergency; my boyfriend does in case his parents have a medical problem and he's asleep. It's very possible she was asleep, and the text woke her up.

Also, how exactly do we know that the 3:30 AM text was from the POI? In mainstream news sources, 3:30 AM referred to the time she was last seen alive:

http://www.northplattebulletin.com/i...20183&pageID=3

"According to a text message circulated to help find Clapp, the last time she was seen alive was 3:30 a.m. Friday."

Has what that time represents changed?

This is why I feel she was awake at that time. Normally if a text comes through at 3:30 AM, most would be sound asleep and perhaps the phone off so it can charge or whatever. Seems to me she was wide awake at that time.

Her cellphone records will tell the untold story.
 
I actually know a lot of people who leave their phones on at night in case of emergency; my boyfriend does in case his parents have a medical problem and he's asleep. It's very possible she was asleep, and the text woke her up.

Also, how exactly do we know that the 3:30 AM text was from the POI? In mainstream news sources, 3:30 AM referred to the time she was last seen alive:

http://www.northplattebulletin.com/i...20183&pageID=3

"According to a text message circulated to help find Clapp, the last time she was seen alive was 3:30 a.m. Friday."

Has what that time represents changed?

I also think teenagers will talk to each other via text at almost any time, so they will leave the phone on. When I was her age, you would have to call a house phone and wake up someone's whole family if you wanted to talk to your friends in the middle of the night (which is why we never talked in the middle of the night lol), but cell phones and texting changed that.

jmo
 
There would be a lot of blood if he cut her throat (I hate writing this, sorry). It would have been that much if she was there for a little while bleeding out, but I do not think she could survive with that much loss.

Probably graphic so read at your own risk... I'm not trying to be though, I'm just sharing my theory of what happened.



With this being so close to her house... whatever they did was quiet. I think it is possible that she thought someone else was outside. That someone texted her, pretending to be someone else. Then when she came out, the person came up behind her and silenced her before she could scream.

If they hit the jugular then that would cause significant blood loss. It would also not be survivable unless someone was there to stop the bleeding until she got to a hospital. If she then fell forward, onto the wound, it wouldn't produce spatter but a puddle. Partially dismembered could be referring to the throat as well, we've had cases that were that severe.

I would not be surprised if we find out that her throat was cut. Because that would explain both her silence and the amount of blood. My question is, if she bled out right there... why not just leave her there? They only added more evidence by transporting her and they didn't prevent her from being found.

What was the reason for that? Probably just being a teenager not thinking real clearly. I'm glad her family didn't find her though and I'm glad they added more evidence.
 
Do we know when police first saw the blood so near her house?
 
Do we know when police first saw the blood so near her house?

No, we haven't heard that. She was found like 18 hours after she was reported missing though. So finding that, I don't think would have sped the process up any. It was already really fast.

But if you watch that video... it is REALLY close. I expected it to be further away, not easily visible. It is right there in the open. If you even walked around just looking you would have to see it. I would also guess that would be where police would have pulled up to talk to the family. I don't think it's even 100 yards away and the alley runs along the house...

This is the most specific I have seen on the time:

http://www.ksn.com/content/news/bur...14-found-murdered/TmcJ0sJfokO50Gwmqjtl6g.cspx

Investigators say they found a large pool of blood in the alley near Kailee’s home and later found a body about 15 miles away...
 
Hello,
I am a newbie here, but have been sleuthing around the internet since 1993! Just didn't know about this site - some sleuth huh?

When you think about the small towns in the Midwest, well, even Denver, you must think "Grid" every town is laid out on a grid. Now, look at the angle they photographed the house from, it's on a corner lot. There are two streets to access this house from. Not likely the police would pull up to the house from the alley.
If you look at McCook, NE, on Google Earth, it is apparent that between many back doors and the "alley" there can be trees, shrubs, fences. These alleys run parallel to the north/south running streets ( these are named numbers ), they really look like they are just as effective at getting someone from the east/west streets ( these are named letters) as McCook's streets are. I have not seen it said this was directly out the back door in the alley. If perhaps, it is say in the middle of the alley, established the house on the corner, it might not be the first place everyone looks.

From another web site on the internet- http://www.co.red-willow.ne.us/-I have discovered the avg. lot size in McCook in 140 ft., again and again I am seeing the avg. house size is about 50 ft. give or take. Simple math says that gives you 90 feet to work with on the lot, depending on where you place the house on the lot, how big your front yard is to the back yard, if you want 100 feet directly out the back door you are not going to get it, you have to turn one way or the other. Also, with this house being a corner lot there is only one way to go.

My deepest Sympathies and Prayers to the Clapp family.
 
Also, how exactly do we know that the 3:30 AM text was from the POI? In mainstream news sources, 3:30 AM referred to the time she was last seen alive:

http://www.northplattebulletin.com/i...20183&pageID=3

"According to a text message circulated to help find Clapp, the last time she was seen alive was 3:30 a.m. Friday."

Has what that time represents changed?

SBM...

Snip from article:

Law enforcement are not saying how Kirkpatrick is connected to Kailee, but he reportedly sent a threatening message to Kailee, at approximately 3:30 a.m., on the date of her disappearance

http://www.suite101.com/content/mis...ee-clapps-body-found-suspect-arrested-a337562
 
Wheelwithinawheel~~~ :welcome: !!!!!!!! It's wonderful to have you here fellow sleuther!
 
Just a side thought....

I'm a Mom to an almost 13 year old. He's not girl-crazy yet but I've decided when I start seeing the texts flying all day long that I'm going to collect his cell phone at bedtime so there won't be the possibility of "middle-of-the-night" texts. There is just NO REASON for a kid to have 24/7 access to a cell phone.....

My thoughts and prayers go out to Kailee's family and friends - as the daughter of a murdered father, I know what her family is feeling right now....(((hugs)))
 
I just want to thank each of you for your sleuthing, thoughts, prayers, theories....you name it. Thank you so much !!! Ive seen a lot of vigils in my day but Ive never seen one such as this.

http://www.nptelegraph.com/articles/2011/01/26/news/40001316.txt

2 seperate cases in just a few days has taken its toll on me. Please continue to pray for the entire Clapp family and her friends. And Elizabeth Ennens family & friends in Lubbock. More info is out on Beth's case. This is so much to emotionally handle.

I know you two girls are running in Gods heavenly fields, hand in hand, and looking down on us all.
 
14 car!!! is your ear burning because I was just thinking of you!

I pray for your friends and for you... how horrible to have to go thru this... I have been thinking of you!!!
 
OT/Wow this hits close to home. I spent my summers growing up in Bartley staying with cousins. Going to McCook was a big thing back then.
 
Authorities have stated that more information cannot be made available because its release would interfere in the investigation. It reported further information would be available as the investigation progressed. Nebraska State Patrol and Federal law enforcement are assisting in the investigation.

http://www.nptelegraph.com/articles/2011/01/26/news/40001316.txt

It sounds like they are going to be pretty tight lipped on information and we will have to wait for court to get some answers.
 
At least NE has the death penalty.
Surely, this case would be considered for it.
One would hope, anyway.
 
Wonderful candlelight vigil last night. Some say 1000 attended, some say it was 2000 but it was a lot of caring people. Earlier in the afternoon someone had tied pink ribbons to the trees in Norris Park and it was very moving. McCook is a town with about 8000 people.

The perp is from NM and was sent here to live with his grandparents in Bartley. Just why I do not know but we can assume he had some major problems.

Supposedly the perp and his 16 year old girlfriend attended the McCook Alternative school. (After he was booted out of the school in the Bartley District) There are varying reasons for sending students to the alternative school but a lot of them go there as they cannot fit in or have been kicked out of the other schools.

Arraignment is tomorrow at 11:30 AM, Red Willow Co Courthouse. Most of the above is probably old news by now.

Rumors about the girlfriend abound but to my knowledge none are substantiated.

If one is so inclined to see the probable murder scene in the alley, go to Google Maps (use street view) and the north end of the alley is located on East C St, between east 4th and east 5th St. in McCook NE. The blood stains are about halfway down the alley toward the south, the victims home is on the left as one looks south down the alley. Speculation as that is where she was stabbed and the blood pool occurred when the perp left her to go get the car to transport the body to Bartley.
 
Probably graphic so read at your own risk... I'm not trying to be though, I'm just sharing my theory of what happened.



With this being so close to her house... whatever they did was quiet. I think it is possible that she thought someone else was outside. That someone texted her, pretending to be someone else. Then when she came out, the person came up behind her and silenced her before she could scream.

If they hit the jugular then that would cause significant blood loss. It would also not be survivable unless someone was there to stop the bleeding until she got to a hospital. If she then fell forward, onto the wound, it wouldn't produce spatter but a puddle. Partially dismembered could be referring to the throat as well, we've had cases that were that severe.

I would not be surprised if we find out that her throat was cut. Because that would explain both her silence and the amount of blood. My question is, if she bled out right there... why not just leave her there? They only added more evidence by transporting her and they didn't prevent her from being found.

What was the reason for that? Probably just being a teenager not thinking real clearly. I'm glad her family didn't find her though and I'm glad they added more evidence.

I have my theories of why he moved her, I think it was a sexually motive sadist attack. He was obsessed with her and she didn't like him back.
He decided to attack her.
It is extremely disturbing.
I hope there is enough evidence to convict him so he is off the streets permanently.
 

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