neighbor says he passed a LDT (husband of SB)

[skyy]

WoW! His text to his wife at 10:30.. I love you and our baby daughter...takes on a whole new meaning.... heck.. now I have to go search for the exact wording of that text..

I don't find that odd. My daughter is 4 1/2 and she is our baby. If she is the youngest or only child it wouldn't be alarming that he would consider her his baby.

 

[In da Middle]

Were these FBI cadaver dogs? Or normal scent dogs?

Nothing has been verified as to which dogs where which on any given search. There were multiple times where dogs were there. It has not been released as to which dogs were there at any given time.

 

[Abby Normal]

Well Crud.
I would venture to guess you went in and checked on said drugged kids.
Deb couldnt wake up cause she was blacked out (her words not mine).

If you are up and out sitting on the stoop drinking
and smoking cigs with your neighbor u still go and check on your kids dont ya?
She does not get the mother of the year award from me sorry.
JMO

1) She didn't say she was blacked out, she said "it's possible".

2) My kids slept in my room, so yes we were close and checking on them.

3) What I was responding to was that Lisa couldn't have slept that long unless she was drugged or dead. I was simply saying that my kids slept 12 hours a night by Lisa's age. So non-drugged, non-dead kids CAN sleep as long as it was suggested. If you're going to quote me and reply to me, I'd love if you were able to keep it in context. I never said she should get the mother of the year award. I was responding to a specific assumption that I know to be false.

I was not assessing her parenting habits of checking on, or not checking on her kids. Obviously since I kept my kids as close as I did for as long as I did, I could not relate to that part at all.

 

[TheTruthWillOut]

Nothing has been verified as to which dogs where which on any given search. There were multiple times where dogs were there. It has not been released as to which dogs were there at any given time.

Thanks.

 

[Wendy101]

what text? is there a link?

Brando's husband told CNN that he spent the night of Oct. 3 with a friend. He showed CNN texts between him and his wife on Oct. 3. At 10:33 p.m., the neighbor wrote to Brando that he loved her and their daughter and to kiss her goodnight. Brando responded at 10:54 p.m. that she and their daughter loved him too.

http://www.kctv5.com/story/15953146/neighbor-says?clienttype=printable

 

[Abby Normal]

I'm alittle confused as to why some people think it makes perfect sense that a neighbor having marital difficulties kidnaps his neighbors baby for revenge (??), but it makes no sense what so ever that a mother who admits to beng drunk might have taken her daughter into bed with her, and accidentally smothered her.

I think it's totally rational that may have been what happened. I think you may need to also throw in that she then went on to throw away her baby and cover her tracks. That's what makes it hard to fathom.

But agreed, totally possible.

I think some of us who seem to be "anti-guilt" aren't really anti-guilt, the guilty theories are just well represented so we discuss other possible theories as a way to keep an open mind until we have evidence and information.

Obviously LE thought it was a good enough theory to investigate, so I don't think it's irrational either, kwim?

 

[Cortne]

Oh but he says he passed a poly, so hes not involved

Deb says she doesnt pass a poly. Totally involved

He says he passes poly but is id'd carrying a baby in the middle of the night.

But hes still not involved and Deb is. Alllrighty then.



Oy.

 

[Mountain_Kat]

I think it's totally rational that may have been what happened. I think you may need to also throw in that she then went on to throw away her baby and cover her tracks. That's what makes it hard to fathom.

But agreed, totally possible.

I think some of us who seem to be "anti-guilt" aren't really anti-guilt, the guilty theories are just well represented so we discuss other possible theories as a way to keep an open mind until we have evidence and information.

Obviously LE thought it was a good enough theory to investigate, so I don't think it's irrational either, kwim?

Well, I would hope LE would check out any possibility.

But I just find it a stretch of the imagination to think a man having marital problems with his wife somehow decides to kidnap his neighbors baby in a bizarre revenge plot. I'm not criticizing anyone who does hold this theory...just saying, it doesn't seem particularly logical to me.

 

[Mountain_Kat]

Oh but he says he passed a poly, so hes not involved

Deb says she doesnt pass a poly. Totally involved

He says he passes poly but is id'd carrying a baby in the middle of the night.

But hes still not involved and Deb is. Alllrighty then.



Oy.

Reporter Jim Spellman said a spokesman for the Kansas City Police Department confirmed that the neighbor has been cleared of any involvement in the disappearance of baby Lisa. The spokesperson said the department "has moved on from him," according to CNN.

http://www.kctv5.com/story/15953146/neighbor-says

 

[Wendy101]

Reporter Jim Spellman said a spokesman for the Kansas City Police Department confirmed that the neighbor has been cleared of any involvement in the disappearance of baby Lisa. The spokesperson said the department "has moved on from him," according to CNN.

http://www.kctv5.com/story/15953146/neighbor-says

Didn't they say the same thing about Jersey?

 

[jjenny]

Didn't they say the same thing about Jersey?

They sure did.

 

[TorisMom003]

For some reason I have a feeling that they had "moved on away from him" before they even knew if there was a solid alibi for this individual simply because their focus was on someone else that was not this person.

MOO

 

[Abby Normal]

Well, I would hope LE would check out any possibility.

But I just find it a stretch of the imagination to think a man having marital problems with his wife somehow decides to kidnap his neighbors baby in a bizarre revenge plot. I'm not criticizing anyone who does hold this theory...just saying, it doesn't seem particularly logical to me.

yes, given the information we have at this time it would be a stretch to claim that he had adequate motive for abducting a child.

I think given the information we have at this time, it would be a stretch to decide unhindered that DB is a murderer too. But granted, it's at least statistically more likely.

I'm just waiting, honestly. Considering all possibilities. I consider that part of being objective. I'm glad LE is considering everything as well, no matter what direction it leads.

 

[askfornina]

yes, given the information we have at this time it would be a stretch to claim that he had adequate motive for abducting a child.

I think given the information we have at this time, it would be a stretch to decide unhindered that DB is a murderer too. But granted, it's at least statistically more likely.

I'm just waiting, honestly. Considering all possibilities. I consider that part of being objective. I'm glad LE is considering everything as well, no matter what direction it leads.

i totally agree Abby Normal. you always say what i'm feeling in better words than i could come up with. just want to say you are one of my favorite posters in the section of the forum. i really respect this point of view, but i also respect the point of view of others that happen to differ from mine. as i'm sure you'd agree. :fence: at the end of the day we are all here for Lisa.

 

[Mountain_Kat]

yes, given the information we have at this time it would be a stretch to claim that he had adequate motive for abducting a child.

I think given the information we have at this time, it would be a stretch to decide unhindered that DB is a murderer too. But granted, it's at least statistically more likely.

I'm just waiting, honestly. Considering all possibilities. I consider that part of being objective. I'm glad LE is considering everything as well, no matter what direction it leads.

BBM

I've never even considered the possibility that DB might be a murderer. I've never seen one shred of evidence that would point me in that direction. I do, however, believe that it's highly probable that she's responsible for whatever happened to Lisa.

Having said that, I value any and all opinions, so long as they are intelligent and respectful.

 

[Eileen730]

Oh but he says he passed a poly, so hes not involved

Deb says she doesnt pass a poly. Totally involved

He says he passes poly but is id'd carrying a baby in the middle of the night.

But hes still not involved and Deb is. Alllrighty then.



Oy.

This man was identified carrying the baby?

 

[Abby Normal]

BBM

I've never even considered the possibility that DB might be a murderer. I've never seen one shred of evidence that would point me in that direction. I do, however, believe that it's highly probable that she's responsible for whatever happened to Lisa.

Having said that, I value any and all opinions, so long as they are intelligent and respectful.

OH, I didn't mean YOU HAD. I just meant that in regards to the many theories on this board that do demand her guilt. Like it's not that much more "off the wall" than some of the DB did it theories. That's all

Sorry if it sounded like I meant YOU had made that assertion. I've enjoyed your posts and you've stood out to me as fair and objective

 

[Mountain_Kat]

OH, I didn't mean YOU HAD. I just meant that in regards to that many theories on this board that do demand her guilt. Like it's not that much more "off the wall" than some of the DB did it theories. That's all

Sorry it sounded like I meant YOU had made that assertion. I've enjoyed your posts and you've stood out to me as fair and objective

No worries, Abby, I knew you didn't mean me. I just thought I'd take the opportunity to share my feelings on that particular subject.

And thank you for the sweet compliment. Right backatcha.

 

[Mountain_Kat]

Didn't they say the same thing about Jersey?

They did. And I've never seen anything since that would indicate to me that LE now feels otherwise.

 

[hambirg]

Take her somewhere in what? The vehicles have been searched.

Do you know if the neighbors', SB and JB's, vehicles were searched? I'm kind of assuming they would have been, but haven't seen that yet.

I'll tell you, after seeing JB I might almost be back on the fence.


Why is it that a lot of these men have the same MO??? :banghead:

ETA-while I think the idea of the neighbor doing this out of revenge is kind of far out there, people have been known to go off the deep end when they believe they are facing a divorce. I just don't know. It's plausible to me though. Add to that the MT sighting and it's just enough to make me wonder.