New Developments and General Discussion, 08/10/2012

[GulfCoastKAT]

This post lands at a random spot but I am just wondering how KATC can just come out and insinuate that BSL has anything to do with Ali's disappearance. It just seems like they are pissing in the jury pool to me. I am not a fan of BSL and I do want justice to be served for Mickey and Lisa. No one had the right to kill them and the only thing we can do now is hope that justice is served for them in a court of law. I read the comments on KATC & KLFY and I am usually taken aback by the violence suggested in the posts that BSL should suffer according to the people in Lafayette. If BSL is responsible for Ali's disappearance, then he should be charged with it and answer to in court. But if not... Then what is that type of reporting doing to the potential jurors? I believe the Shunick family/friends have said they hope the trial takes place in Lafayette but with each day that passes, I cannot imagine BSL getting a fair trial here. Someone even said he is guilty because of all the "irrefutable evidence" against him. I know the police have a lot more evidence than we do and I hope it is irrefutable and can guarantee a conviction but I definitely wouldn't call what we do know "irrefutable". I would call it circumstantial evidence. I strongly believe in the system. I know it doesn't always work the way we want it to (Casey Anthony!) but even in those cases, it works as it's designed to. That jury wasn't convinced beyond a reasonable doubt that Casey Anthony killed her daughter so they had to find her not guilty. To base their decision off of their feelings or opinions is not what the court asks. I know I wouldn't want
to serve on a jury of a complicated circumstantial evidence murder trial. I think that in order to truly help the Shunick's & the Pate's, we must hope that BSL receives a fair trial and a conviction because of solid evidence. I'm still not convinced that he was clever enough to be a serial killer for all of these years. In Mickey's case, as soon as LE received the tip that turned their attention to him, they quickly discovered a strange series of events that involved him (DWT's theft & arson, hospital visits, etc). He was very sloppy in covering up his tracks, IMO. I know I'm kind of rambling but it just seems like he has already been convicted in this town and no one believes in the presumption of innocence until proven guilty (or a confession is obtained) when it comes to BSL. Casey A was also "convicted" before her day in court. I would hate to see that happen again because Mickey and Lisa do deserve justice.

 

[jujube]

https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msi...&ll=30.353916,-94.152832&spn=2.69225,4.938354

Click on the pink push-pin ("Body Found") and that will bring up a menu. Click "More" then "Zoom here." After that you can manually zoom in by using the wheel on your mouse, or by clicking the slider on the left of the map. Zoom all the way in and look at the white dots east (to the right) of the cluster of graves, in the woods.

It's odd but that's one of the spots I marked. Guess it makes sense because you cannot be seen from the road at that spot. It's also why I marked the other areas.

If the white spots are graves, how in heck did he get there with bodies unless (yikes) he had made them easier to carry? Those places are thick with trees. It looks like they may be egrets or another white bird- hopefully anyway.lease:

 

[SteveP]

Foxfire, also sometimes referred to as "fairy fire", is the bioluminescence created by some species of fungi present in decaying wood. The bluish green glow is attributed to luciferase, an oxidizing agent, which emits light as it reacts with luciferin. Although the purpose is unknown, it is widely believed that the light is meant to attract insects to spread its spores or act as a warning to hungry animals, similar to the bright colors exhibited by some species of animals.[1] Although generally very dim, in some cases it can be bright enough to read by.[2]

LOL...this makes the most sense yet, but when I first read it, I thought you meant Foxfire, the poster, and thought, damn, he's all over this case...he's even up in the trees now.

 

[Ravynne]

Could those marks with the funky coloring on one side be solar panels? I was able to zoom in some and that was the impression I got. I also noticed the dirt mound near the tree line which is interesting. However if this cemetery is still actively used to bury those who have passed it would make sense to have a mound of dirt somewhere out of the way because the company that comes in to install the vault needs to put the displaced dirt somewhere. I know this because I used to work for a vault works company and we also did cremation services, both human and pet.

 

[kdlpn]

I wonder how thick poison ivy is around the cemetery.....

 

[Canaille]

LOL...this makes the most sense yet, but when I first read it, I thought you meant Foxfire, the poster, and thought, damn, he's all over this case...he's even up in the trees now.

Don't make me laugh like that! I almost woke up my husband!!

 

[Lera213]

I wonder how thick poison ivy is around the cemetery.....

not thick enough. :floorlaugh:

 

[RWRNHZ40]

This post lands at a random spot but I am just wondering how KATC can just come out and insinuate that BSL has anything to do with Ali's disappearance. It just seems like they are pissing in the jury pool to me. I am not a fan of BSL and I do want justice to be served for Mickey and Lisa. No one had the right to kill them and the only thing we can do now is hope that justice is served for them in a court of law. I read the comments on KATC & KLFY and I am usually taken aback by the violence suggested in the posts that BSL should suffer according to the people in Lafayette. If BSL is responsible for Ali's disappearance, then he should be charged with it and answer to in court. But if not... Then what is that type of reporting doing to the potential jurors? I believe the Shunick family/friends have said they hope the trial takes place in Lafayette but with each day that passes, I cannot imagine BSL getting a fair trial here. Someone even said he is guilty because of all the "irrefutable evidence" against him. I know the police have a lot more evidence than we do and I hope it is irrefutable and can guarantee a conviction but I definitely wouldn't call what we do know "irrefutable". I would call it circumstantial evidence. I strongly believe in the system. I know it doesn't always work the way we want it to (Casey Anthony!) but even in those cases, it works as it's designed to. That jury wasn't convinced beyond a reasonable doubt that Casey Anthony killed her daughter so they had to find her not guilty. To base their decision off of their feelings or opinions is not what the court asks. I know I wouldn't want
to serve on a jury of a complicated circumstantial evidence murder trial. I think that in order to truly help the Shunick's & the Pate's, we must hope that BSL receives a fair trial and a conviction because of solid evidence. I'm still not convinced that he was clever enough to be a serial killer for all of these years. In Mickey's case, as soon as LE received the tip that turned their attention to him, they quickly discovered a strange series of events that involved him (DWT's theft & arson, hospital visits, etc). He was very sloppy in covering up his tracks, IMO. I know I'm kind of rambling but it just seems like he has already been convicted in this town and no one believes in the presumption of innocence until proven guilty (or a confession is obtained) when it comes to BSL. Casey A was also "convicted" before her day in court. I would hate to see that happen again because Mickey and Lisa do deserve justice.

They're not insinuating anything. I admit their initial posting did seem as though someone was trying to connect the case with BSL, but there is evidence that a truck matching his trucks description (2005 GMC Sierra) was seen in the area where Ali was walking. Apparently, she had stopped and was talking to the person in the truck. Tipsters called in a plate number (or partial plate) which matched BSL's license plate number as per the PI Mac Sanford.

That evidence was added to the initial posting.

 

[Lera213]

Ok so I'm writing off the dots as an rock or something but no way can you fit a body in a 1x3 hole. NEXT!

 

[Ms.Jules]

Good evening All WB :rocker: Just wanted to say BSL's sister only lived 25-30 min away.
I adopt from a animal shelter right around the corner :what:
When I first saw his picture after his arrest I felt like I had seen him. I NEVER forget a face! IDK I just think its creepy. Not important what so ever

RIP Mickey baby, Lisa P and any other victims not known out there

 

[jujube]

Ok so I'm writing off the dots as an rock or something but no way can you fit a body in a 1x3 hole. NEXT!

not an intact body

 

[Allusonz]

This post lands at a random spot but I am just wondering how KATC can just come out and insinuate that BSL has anything to do with Ali's disappearance. It just seems like they are pissing in the jury pool to me. I am not a fan of BSL and I do want justice to be served for Mickey and Lisa. No one had the right to kill them and the only thing we can do now is hope that justice is served for them in a court of law. I read the comments on KATC & KLFY and I am usually taken aback by the violence suggested in the posts that BSL should suffer according to the people in Lafayette. If BSL is responsible for Ali's disappearance, then he should be charged with it and answer to in court. But if not... Then what is that type of reporting doing to the potential jurors? I believe the Shunick family/friends have said they hope the trial takes place in Lafayette but with each day that passes, I cannot imagine BSL getting a fair trial here. Someone even said he is guilty because of all the "irrefutable evidence" against him. I know the police have a lot more evidence than we do and I hope it is irrefutable and can guarantee a conviction but I definitely wouldn't call what we do know "irrefutable". I would call it circumstantial evidence. I strongly believe in the system. I know it doesn't always work the way we want it to (Casey Anthony!) but even in those cases, it works as it's designed to. That jury wasn't convinced beyond a reasonable doubt that Casey Anthony killed her daughter so they had to find her not guilty. To base their decision off of their feelings or opinions is not what the court asks. I know I wouldn't want
to serve on a jury of a complicated circumstantial evidence murder trial. I think that in order to truly help the Shunick's & the Pate's, we must hope that BSL receives a fair trial and a conviction because of solid evidence. I'm still not convinced that he was clever enough to be a serial killer for all of these years. In Mickey's case, as soon as LE received the tip that turned their attention to him, they quickly discovered a strange series of events that involved him (DWT's theft & arson, hospital visits, etc). He was very sloppy in covering up his tracks, IMO. I know I'm kind of rambling but it just seems like he has already been convicted in this town and no one believes in the presumption of innocence until proven guilty (or a confession is obtained) when it comes to BSL. Casey A was also "convicted" before her day in court. I would hate to see that happen again because Mickey and Lisa do deserve justice.

You raise an interesting perspective.

I do believe though that there is a plea deal involved here that allowed LE to find Mickey.

If there is indeed a plea deal then there will be no trial as most of us know a trial to be. This is an important distinction as there will not be a jury. There will be some of the lead investigators outlining the evidence but little to no detail. There as well may be some forensic evidence given but once again not any detail.

In a plea deal, specific to this case, the only thing that would happen is that BSL gives the specifics to LE and the DA does not pursue the death penalty.

If this is the case the media attention has no bearing whatsoever on the sentence. That has already been stipulated in the plea deal.

This is very important to remember.

 

[HouDat]

Want to make sure we don't get off track here. I'm not asserting that the blue spots are bodies. I'm asserting that they are irregularities which I'd like to see explained (even if it's nothing more than distortion of the photograph by some natural or artificial means) and/or investigated.

 

[HouDat]

This post lands at a random spot but I am just wondering how KATC can just come out and insinuate that BSL has anything to do with Ali's disappearance.

KATC didn't insinuate it -- they reported that a Houston-area PI has apparently made a connection between a DWT once owned by BS Lavergne and the area where Ali was last seen.

If anyone is insinuating, it would be the PI.

 

[Allusonz]

KATC didn't insinuate it -- they reported that a Houston-area PI has apparently made a connection between a DWT once owned by BS Lavergne and the area where Ali was last seen.

If anyone is insinuating, it would be the PI.

I would like to add specifically with a partial license plate.

 

[Ravynne]

Want to make sure we don't get off track here. I'm not asserting that the blue spots are bodies. I'm asserting that they are irregularities which I'd like to see explained (even if it's nothing more than distortion of the photograph by some natural or artificial means) and/or investigated.

Personally for me, I'm gonna have to take a look at them on my laptop and with a fresh brain and eyes. Just so I don't get too crazy with my ideas.... Theories. That I will do in the am, or as soon as I can get to them tomorrow. If that's ok with everyone? I think stepping away and coming back may bring new perspective to the subject. Moo

 

[reedus23]

Wouldn't he have been charged with more murders if other bodies were found in the grave? I'm not saying they weren't, but if they were, wouldn't that be the case?

I'm wondering if this isn't what Friday is for.

 

[Ravynne]

KATC didn't insinuate it -- they reported that a Houston-area PI has apparently made a connection between a DWT once owned by BS Lavergne and the area where Ali was last seen.

If anyone is insinuating, it would be the PI.

This sounds similar to when the police in Indiana tried to connect the Lauren spierer case to Mickey's, no? Am I wrong?

 

[NewYork625]

Just curious. Does anyone think LE would have made any kind of plea agreement with BSL, taking the DP off the table, if he led them to her grave, but insisted her death was an accident? I cant believe that they would, but I also cant believe that he would lead them to her grave otherwise, and I feel certain they were led to her. I dont believe they would have found her in 1000 years otherwise. So, absent a plea change, I am really stumped as to what Friday's hearing could be about.

ETA..the only other scenario I can picture is that someone else did know details and led them to the body in exchange for some degree of immunity.

Could gps have led them to the cemetery, and could they have possibly brought BSL there and had him watch as they located the grave and dug it up, hoping he might confess?

 

[CajunTitan]

Want to make sure we don't get off track here. I'm not asserting that the blue spots are bodies. I'm asserting that they are irregularities which I'd like to see explained (even if it's nothing more than distortion of the photograph by some natural or artificial means) and/or investigated.

I second that notion ... makes me want to drive out there myself just to see EXACTLY what they are (but I won't) ... (I don't think!!!)