New Docs Part 2

[Janis396]

It is mind boggling to me also. I keep thinking back to if only CA's mother had pressed charges with taking their money that Caylee might be alive today. MOO

Her PARENTS should have turned her in when she stole $4,400 from them when she forged a deposit slip and then claimed she'd been robbed at gun point. That happened long before she stole from her grandmother.

 

[butwhatif?]

There are no kiddie charges against Casey, and I imagine there would be if LE found pornographic pics of Caylee on the computer.

Thanks chilly, thats true- now I can get it out of my head.

Have you got any ideas on why the SCU would be involved?

 

[not_my_kids]

But they have the option of ticking others like child abuse or missing persons. so why sex crimes?

That is an interesting question, just remember that mr. lead investigators wife works in sex crimes. Seems a little odd, just thought I would pointing that out. Not to mention that in a lot of overworked departments, sex crimes, and child abuse are the same division.

 

[gardenhart]

Her PARENTS should have turned her in when she stole $4,400 from them when she forged a deposit slip and then claimed she'd been robbed at gun point. That happened long before she stole from her grandmother.

Despite the talk of Cindy getting advice from the therapist on how to get custody of Caylee, and despite her apparently frequent arguments with Casey over Casey's bad parenting, I don't believe she truly wanted custody. If she did, all she had to do was have Casey charged with any of these thefts.

Did anyone really care about that poor baby?

 

[gardenhart]

I'd like more proof other than just Casey's word before having this a topic on Nancy's show. LA isn't the one who has been charged with murder and sitting in jail either and may just be completely innocent of any wrongdoing. MOO

I completely agree, Panthera. I'm just flabbergasted that so many people who wouldn't believe a word Casey says otherwise are so anxious to leap onto the sexual abuse and incest bandwagon.

 

[gardenhart]

If I had stolen that much money from my mom, she would not have hesitated to have me arrested. CA really is an enabler. Yes, KC is a liar and a thief, but she has never been held accountable for her actions, at least she hasn't until now.

CA is an enabler and GA is the enabler's enabler because he never had the wherewithall to stand up to CA and demand that something be done about this. Except this goes so far beyond what you would think of as enabling it should probably have its own word.

 

[Janis396]

Despite the talk of Cindy getting advice from the therapist on how to get custody of Caylee, and despite her apparently frequent arguments with Casey over Casey's bad parenting, I don't believe she truly wanted custody. If she did, all she had to do was have Casey charged with any of these thefts.

Did anyone really care about that poor baby?

It sure looks like complete strangers care more about Caylee at this point than her own family does, doesn't it? Talk is cheap, and the family's actions tell the REAL story about what's most important to them.

 

[not_my_kids]

I completely agree, Panthera. I'm just flabbergasted that so many people who wouldn't believe a word Casey says otherwise are so anxious to leap onto the sexual abuse and incest bandwagon.

Maybe because it's so common and a good deal of the people who actually were molested weren't believed at least at first. No matter the vic, no one would want to accuse someone of lying about molestation, because those of us that have been there know how hard it was to tell and how much harder it was to hear that we were lying about it. JMO.

 

[belladonna]

Despite the talk of Cindy getting advice from the therapist on how to get custody of Caylee, and despite her apparently frequent arguments with Casey over Casey's bad parenting, I don't believe she truly wanted custody. If she did, all she had to do was have Casey charged with any of these thefts.

Did anyone really care about that poor baby?



I have had the same feeling about CA not really wanting custody.... because she didn't seem interested in who the nanny was and I've never heard anything about questioning Casey.. and KC taking her for 3 or 4 days to who knows where......

 

[LiveLoveLaughLiza]

I just read all the pdfs and I wish I had noted the page number, but was anyone else surprised that KC had cashed checks, in the past, at the Amscot where her car was abandoned?

I know it was close to the A house, but it still caught me off guard that she had a history of going there. Anyone else, or is it just me?

It caught me off guard......and IIRC, during her interview with the Det.'s didn't they ask if she had cashed a check and she said no and then went on to say that she had never been there, just happened to be where her car ran out of gas.

To me, one of the checks from Cindy to Casey, it looks like Casey it the one who wrote the check, not Cindy.


Like you, I can't remember which PDF they are in either.:crazy:

 

[cocoamom]

OK, regarding the One Tree Hill search on her computer - get ready for more reading! Here is a synopsis of each season. See if any names jump out at you and if any of the characters sound like "players" in KC's real life!! It's kind of twisted, but I can see her trying to plug some of this into her crazy head!

IMO
Dan=GA
Haley = KC
Nathan = JG
Brooke = Annie
Haley = KC
Karen = CA
lots more!

There was a "Quentin"(sp?) in KC's cell phone - one in this show too.
There is an Andy
A Nathan
A little girl named Lily
A nanny who is psychopathic and kidnaps a boy named Jamie (4 1/2 yrs old)
A Rachael

Oh, I can't even begin to tell you how many similarities there are...this is spooky that a KC would seem to try to "live" a television show!!! Drugs, "dark place", betrayal, sex, cheating, not graduating due to pregnancy, lying about a pregnancy to the supposed father, miscarriage, on and on and on...

LINK:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Tree_Hill_(TV_series)#Season_1

 

[panthera]

Thank you!! My eyes were too blurry to go back! :blowkiss:

Page 39 is the "camping trip" check--so clearly written and signed by KC.

Page 41, the form is marked declined, could not be verified.

This stunt was Feb of 2008. maybe, because the funds weren't withdrawn, Cindy didn't know...but there sure was intent there. Camping trip? WTH?

I've been hopping around between the documents so I'd forgotten just which one those checks were on and had to look again. I noticed there were two checks, one on 02/05 and the second one on 02/08, both for this "camping trip". The form is for the 2nd one, saying "two checks in clearing" and the denial. :waitasec: Maybe CA's bank was suspicious of the first one 3 days earlier that she hadn't written the check?

 

[tippytoes]

It caught me off guard......and IIRC, during her interview with the Det.'s didn't they ask if she had cashed a check and she said no and then went on to say that she had never been there, just happened to be where her car ran out of gas.

To me, one of the checks from Cindy to Casey, it looks like Casey it the one who wrote the check, not Cindy.


Like you, I can't remember which PDF they are in either.:crazy:

Panthera found them!! Originally Posted by panthera
I had to look them up again!

Part 5 starting at pg. 37 of the pdf.

http://www.wesh.com/download/2008/1126/18155477.pdf

And yes, I was shocked because I *know* she said she wasn't a customer there...it's just where she and some guys pushed the car when it ran out of gas. I know she lies, yet it threw me because (again) it was an obvious and easily provable lie.

 

[absolut_alexis]

Despite the talk of Cindy getting advice from the therapist on how to get custody of Caylee, and despite her apparently frequent arguments with Casey over Casey's bad parenting, I don't believe she truly wanted custody. If she did, all she had to do was have Casey charged with any of these thefts.

Did anyone really care about that poor baby?
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I've thought a lot about this. I used to wonder the same thing, but I think CA cared deeply about Caylee's safety. Maybe on some level she knew that pushing Casey about custody could lead to no one having custody.

 

[panthera]

I think tonight and tomorrow night Nancy is doing 'specials' on the case ..

Yes she is, in an hour! Tonight's is supposed to be "the first 24 hours". I think these were already taped and not 'live' since it is a holiday. MOO

 

[not_my_kids]

OK, regarding the One Tree Hill search on her computer - get ready for more reading! Here is a synopsis of each season. See if any names jump out at you and if any of the characters sound like "players" in KC's real life!! It's kind of twisted, but I can see her trying to plug some of this into her crazy head!

IMO
Dan=GA
Haley = KC
Nathan = JG
Brooke = Annie
Haley = KC
Karen = CA
lots more!

There was a "Quentin"(sp?) in KC's cell phone - one in this show too.
There is an Andy
A Nathan
A little girl named Lily
A nanny who is psychopathic and kidnaps a boy named Jamie (4 1/2 yrs old)
A Rachael

Oh, I can't even begin to tell you how many similarities there are...this is spooky that a KC would seem to try to "live" a television show!!! Drugs, "dark place", betrayal, sex, cheating, not graduating due to pregnancy, lying about a pregnancy to the supposed father, miscarriage, on and on and on...

LINK:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Tree_Hill_(TV_series)#Season_1

I don't have the time to look it up right now, any similarities between the NAthan on the show and Nate, AL's roomate at Sutton Place? the same name thing grabbed me.

 

[tiredofthis]

Yes she is, in an hour! Tonight's is supposed to be "the first 24 hours". I think these were already taped and not 'live' since it is a holiday. MOO

Yes! I completely forgot.

 

[Janis396]

Panthera found them!! Originally Posted by panthera
I had to look them up again!

Part 5 starting at pg. 37 of the pdf.

http://www.wesh.com/download/2008/1126/18155477.pdf

And yes, I was shocked because I *know* she said she wasn't a customer there...it's just where she and some guys pushed the car when it ran out of gas. I know she lies, yet it threw me because (again) it was an obvious and easily provable lie.

Yes, but in Casey's world, she always got away with ANY lie she told, so she didn't care how obvious it was. Mama was always there to cover up for her.

 

[natsound]

Where did everyone see How to Make Household weapons in the search histories? I have only seen Household Weapons, which is a big difference, at least to me.

WESH documents, batch 10, page 49 and the top of 50.

 

[panthera]

Her PARENTS should have turned her in when she stole $4,400 from them when she forged a deposit slip and then claimed she'd been robbed at gun point. That happened long before she stole from her grandmother.

Just too many people overlooked and excused her behavior until it was too late for Caylee, imo. I agree with you, but also remember that despite this forged deposit slip, GA even put Casey as a signatory on Caylee's college trust fund, so she could help herself to it and drained it down to $5. MOO