NEW Haunting Evidence on JBR tonight Saturday

[BBB167893]

What's up with the Liar icon, Roy?! I KNOW that you can't be addressing Dave as such......are you?

He better not be!

Maybe it's Smit's Today Show fiasco where he reenacted the Intruder entering the basement window that you are referring to?

You mean the one that turned me from IDI to RDI?

 

[BBB167893]

<<Dittoing SuperDave>>

How original ..... Smit enabled their victory? Wow, he's good.

He certainly gets people to think he is;

How long was it before he got involved?

About two months. He made up his mind after three days, nowhere NEAR long enough to read the file.

Just wondering why the grand jury didn't see through his "BullSmit" and indict someone, anyone, for the crime.

Lots of reasons, from what I can gather.

 

[BBB167893]

If their case was so solid, how could anyone "mess it up"?

By creating doubt where none exists. Ask OJ Simpson if you don't believe me.

 

[BBB167893]

Of course I am not referring Dave as a liar, but to say that without Smit in the investigation then there would be a conviction is laughable.

In a way, you're right. A lot of people bear the blame for it. In Smit's case he just provided a rationale for the DA's office to do what they wanted to do anyway.

 

[BBB167893]

No matter how many conspiricy theorists we have compared to me and a couple of others, the fact remains that enough evidence never existed to indict nor convict the Ramseys.

Nobody is claiming a conspiracy. We're talking about a single prosecutor who made up her mind from day one and who has never bothered to consult any of the people who actually worked the case (she was only a second-tier player in the early days). None of this is in any kind of dispute. The Ramseys have long claimed a conspiracy.

The fact remains that they have determined that the Ramsey's are cleared and now the case has gone in a new direction.

Something the DA has always meant to do. It's not a conspiracy theory when one person is doing it.

 

[BBB167893]

Patsy did not write the note.

I'm afraid she did. The "q"s don't lie. Neither do the "d"s or the "c"s. If there's one thing I trust in this case, it's my own eyes.
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If she did and they could have proved it, she would would have been indicted.

Well, unfortunately in document analysis, what someone "knows" and what they can prove are often two different things. And I don't think there was ever an intent to indict in this case.

And also Lacy decided to publicly exonerate the Ramsey's. It was needed.

It was needed so she wouldn't leave office looking like a complete jacka**.

 

[Ames]

I considered that, too. But it makes no sense for JR to have opened the window, point it out to FW and then tell him that he broke the window himself months before. Then, he closes it and admits to LE that he found it open, and DIDN'T TELL THEM.
If JR opened the window that morning, it had to be because he planned to have it appear as if that's how the "intruder" got in. So for some reason he changed his mind about that.

Refresh my memory, was that open basement window seen by anybody, BUT John?

 

[Ames]

Keep dreaming. Thats why nothing has changed in 12 years. Once they took their head out of their fanny's, they realized they had some DNA.

Well, if that Touch DNA was so relevant, then why didn't they test the paintbrush handle, the blanket that JB was found wrapped in, the duct tape (which BTW had PATSY'S fibers on the STICKY side of it), and the garotte? If they find unsourced DNA on all of those places...then and ONLY then...will the intruder theory become reality for me.

 

[BBB167893]

Well, if that Touch DNA was so relevant, then why didn't they test the paintbrush handle, the blanket that JB was found wrapped in, the duct tape (which BTW had PATSY'S fibers on the STICKY side of it), and the garotte? If they find unsourced DNA on all of those places...then and ONLY then...will the intruder theory become reality for me.

Might help.

 

[KoldKase]

Roy, you don't know the story of Pinocchio, and you just accidently chose the icon where his nose is growing when he's LYING to respond to Dave's post?

I see you have Team Ramsey's technique of evading, obscuring, and denying down Pat. (haha It's a pun.)

 

[RiverRat]

Roy, you don't know the story of Pinocchio, and you just accidently chose the icon where his nose is growing when he's LYING to respond to Dave's post?

I see you have Team Ramsey's technique of evading, obscuring, and denying down Pat. (haha It's a pun.)

After all these years and we aren't supposed to notice the obvious.....

:loser: I have no clue what that icon is for, just used it for no reason.

 

[Ames]

After all these years and we aren't supposed to notice the obvious.....

:loser: I have no clue what that icon is for, just used it for no reason.

Maybe he just thought that SuperDave has a big nose or something...
Yeah, he knew what it meant.

 

[BBB167893]

Maybe he just thought that SuperDave has a big nose or something...
Yeah, he knew what it meant.

Well, if I wanted to be insulted, I wouldn't have to come here.

 

[DeeDee249]

Refresh my memory, was that open basement window seen by anybody, BUT John?

As I recall, FW and JR had just gone to the basement after LA told them to "take a look around". The open window was in the "train room", just to the right of the wineceller; it is the room that also had the suitcase, I believe. It was JR who called it to the attention of FW, and then he immediately added that he had broken it himself that summer; he didn't recall whether he had asked their housekeeper's husband to fix it.
This whole conversation took only seconds; immediately after JR went to the wineceller, followed by FW, and "found" his daughter.
One thing I have never seen was any comments from FW rebutting JR's claims that he had to untie JBR's wrists because they were "tighly bound" (his words). We all know that her wrists were NOT tightly tied, because there are no marks on them but also because rigor mortis was advanced and her wrists were 17 inches apart. One wrist had NO ligature and they other was very loosely tied. The cord was so loose it could have been slipped over her wrist without untying it.
It would have taken some time for JR to have untied them; he also claims to have untied her legs and pulled the tape from her lips.
FW was right behind him; if JR had done these things, he'd have seen it.
Also, nothing was ever mentioned about her legs being tied together. LA mentions her arms being up with no support, as well as the cord hanging from her neck and wrist, nothing about the position of the legs. Are they apart or close together, as they would have been if they were tied.
We know FW has said he picked up the tape and looked at it, then threw it down on the blanket, where it is seen in the photo. This would mean his prints should be on it, as well as JR's, who also admitted handling it. What I am thinking is that if FW did NOT see JR pull the tape off of touch it then- and JR's prints are on it- that would mean that JR handles the tape BEFORE "finding" the body. And we all know what that implies.
Has anyone seen anything about whose prints were on that tape?

 

[JMO8778]

After all these years and we aren't supposed to notice the obvious.....

:loser: I have no clue what that icon is for, just used it for no reason.

reminds me of Patsy saying they had no idea why they used the words 'and hence'.

 

[RiverRat]

reminds me of Patsy saying they had no idea why they used the words 'and hence'.

Like the Christmas letter she sent out the year AFTER JonBenet's murder that contained the "and hence" words again?! Like no one would notice?! :crazy:

 

[Roy23]

I'm afraid she did. The "q"s don't lie. Neither do the "d"s or the "c"s. If there's one thing I trust in this case, it's my own eyes.
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Well, unfortunately in document analysis, what someone "knows" and what they can prove are often two different things. And I don't think there was ever an intent to indict in this case.



It was needed so she wouldn't leave office looking like a complete jacka**.

LOL! National Enquirer!

Lot's of people cannot be excluded from things. I hope to live in a town where I can kill whomever I want and the city government doesn't care to prosecute me. Thank God this case is finally on track.

 

[BBB167893]

LOL! National Enquirer!

Go ahead and laugh! That's just the tip of the iceberg.
Okay, if that's the way you want it, that's the way you'll get it. Roy, my suggestion is for you to try to find an original, unedited copy of "Sex, Lies and Handwriting." Skip to chapter 18. I'd scan it in myself, but that's not really an option right now.

They couldn't even remember who wrote the captions in the family photo album.

Lot's of people cannot be excluded from things.

We're not talking about "lots of people," though.

I hope to live in a town where I can kill whomever I want and the city government doesn't care to prosecute me.

Move to Boulder with a couple mil. No sweat.

Thank God this case is finally on track.

This case will never be on track as long as the original bunglers from the DA's office are running the show. It is time to start over.

 

[JMO8778]

Like the Christmas letter she sent out the year AFTER JonBenet's murder that contained the "and hence" words again?! Like no one would notice?! :crazy:

I think it was the liturgy of the day for their church, but yes,and what's odd is that she even goes on to say she AND Jr EACH wrote a version of it,which they merged together into one final version.
IMO,she just gave away the way the RN was constructed. WTG Patsy.she just couldn't stop confessing.

 

[SeekingJana]

They darn well were. People have been put away with a lot less. The only thing we're missing is the proverbial busload of nuns.[/quote]

Ohh, this comment just reminded me of another Ram theory that SueBee shopped around the forums for a while. Seems there was a homeless man who lived right in the alley behind the Ramsey house. Right there where he could see up into JBR's bedroom, see her in the back yard, etc.
Said man was " taken in" by the priest/ clergy and allowed to stay part time in the church on the other side of the alley way.

Homeless man/ imaginary suspect's nickname? Churchmouse