New People Magazine article on the KH case

[GrainneDhu]

I'm sorry, feel I can't comment until it until I read it. And linkie it.

who's family give people magazine interviews like that?

Terri Moulton Horman's family, apparently. Poor woman.

how much did he get paid?

I hope he had the sense to hold out for five figures but it seems pretty clear that common sense is not his predominant characteristic.

rut roh. I commented.
I made completely unfounded speculatory uneducated comments on *gasp* a people magazine article I've not read and can't link.

I am so weak!
:shutup:

Me too.

 

[Emma Peel]

Random:

E;sewhere on this forum, someone commented that Terri would need to get legal fees from someone other than her husband. :croc:
I don't really see this article was meant to do that...I think it was meant to highlightlast weekend's flyer/questionarre flurry activity...

People came out with an on-line article yesterday that leads with a somewhat a different POV than this week's newstand article.

Was her Dad's 50/50 comment a "sound bite" quoted somewhat out of context for the sake of sensationalism?

 

[eyes4crime]

Random:

E;sewhere on this forum, someone commented that Terri would need to get legal fees from someone other than her husband. :croc:
I don't really see this article was meant to do that...I think it was meant to highlightlast weekend's flyer/questionarre flurry activity...

People came out with an on-line article yesterday that leads with a somewhat a different POV than this week's newstand article.

Was her Dad's 50/50 comment a "sound bite" quoted somewhat out of context for the sake of sensationalism?

Hi Ms. Emma! My daughter called me about this article and had an interesting take on this 50/50 comment (I haven't read it yet). She thought dad probably shrugged his shoulders in response to a question about an arrest - and it was reported as 50/50 chance. Speculation for sure.

My thoughts about how this article fits in: LE are focusing on mom almost exclusively. I would bet that when the FBI came up with their profile back in the beginning, it said - s-mom. That would account for the 'wandering' theory. I bet they thought smom dropped Kyron off in some thick brush without his glasses, only to wander aimlessly. moo

LE took the truck twice, searched property (according to Kaine - all without a warrant) and put out a leading questionnaire linking mom, Kyron, truck, to a certain day, time, and event. With this kind of focus how can anyone be sure s-mom isn't the perp? I bet dad is overwhelmed with the overwhelming suggestions that she is - and it seems that is coming from the FBI profile.

The FBI profile could very well be wrong or off track - it sure wouldn't be the first time. all just my opinions and speculation

 

[CCup]

I only saw one page of the People article on the FB page, am I missing the rest of it? Where is it?

 

[loves2bmom]

Hi Ms. Emma! My daughter called me about this article and had an interesting take on this 50/50 comment (I haven't read it yet). She thought dad probably shrugged his shoulders in response to a question about an arrest - and it was reported as 50/50 chance. Speculation for sure.

My thoughts about how this article fits in: LE are focusing on mom almost exclusively. I would bet that when the FBI came up with their profile back in the beginning, it said - s-mom. That would account for the 'wandering' theory. I bet they thought smom dropped Kyron off in some thick brush without his glasses, only to wander aimlessly. moo

LE took the truck twice, searched property (according to Kaine - all without a warrant) and put out a leading questionnaire linking mom, Kyron, truck, to a certain day, time, and event. With this kind of focus how can anyone be sure s-mom isn't the perp? I bet dad is overwhelmed with the overwhelming suggestions that she is - and it seems that is coming from the FBI profile.

The FBI profile could very well be wrong or off track - it sure wouldn't be the first time. all just my opinions and speculation

Apologies if this was discussed weeks ago. I am fairly new. I just wanted to comment on the fact they didn't have a warrant to search the property. I read a while back that the main reason for keeping the investigation as a "missing and endangered child" is so they did not need search warrants, even at neighbors houses. Once it became a criminal investigation, search warrants are needed. So I'm wondering if they did get a search warrant for the truck and that's why it took so long to have it examined. Anyone remember what day the truck was towed and if the investigation had been reclassified yet?

 

[eyes4crime]

Apologies if this was discussed weeks ago. I am fairly new. I just wanted to comment on the fact they didn't have a warrant to search the property. I read a while back that the main reason for keeping the investigation as a "missing and endangered child" is so they did not need search warrants, even at neighbors houses. Once it became a criminal investigation, search warrants are needed. So I'm wondering if they did get a search warrant for the truck and that's why it took so long to have it examined. Anyone remember what day the truck was towed and if the investigation had been reclassified yet?

Hi loves - In order for LE to get a warrant, they need 'probable cause' that what they are going to search has something to do with the crime. Without probable cause, LE has to rely on 'cooperation' of the people involved. I'm not sure this changes when it becomes a criminal investigation. I would think it's always good to have probable cause so they know what to search for - and I'm wondering IF they searched cell phone records if that was based on a warrant or cooperation? moo

Seems there isn't a single event or action in this case that is clear. Not even the words used. moo mho

 

[TrialAddict]

If given permission no warrant would be needed right?

 

[Kimster]

If given permission no warrant would be needed right?

Right.

My deputy friend said that the search and seizure laws in Oregon are some of the toughest in the country. The Hormans appear to be quite cooperative, IMO.

 

[believe09]

Okay, I read it.
That made me very sad.
IMO, Her dad needs a box of kleenex and a muzzle.
He is so very upset for his daughter.
I think there must be something else going on here.

Good greif.

Kyron gone -
her own father thinks she has a 50/50 chance of being arrested before this is over - for what?
and after this investigation, she'll never get another job?
Why would her father think that, let alone say it to People Magazine?

And there's that pumpkin patch again. First paragraph of that article.

:crazy:

I dont think her dad is making an unreasonable assumption that TM might be picked up in this case...I think that is the 50/50 aspect-at least that is how I read it.

People is pretty good about sourcing their stuff-I do not believe he could have made a statement like that unless he was a legitimate source of information. I am not saying that People is anything other than it is-but their crime pieces are pretty well done usually. If Dad was estranged etc they typically point that out.

If we take as fact the things he said-she was interviewed for 6 hours, had two LDT, her vehicle was searched twice, then unless the same has been done for Kaine and Desiree and the 300+ witnesses for this case, it may be fair to say she is a focus of the investigation. MY WORDS, btw-jmo.

 

[believe09]

I suspect they asked for and received a warrant for the cell phone records of all of the principals. If, for example, TM's cell phone indicated she was home or at the local Shop and Save when she said she was, there would be no need to pursue it. LE could take her off the list.

 

[amethyst221]

It's strange that most of what we "know" about possible focus on TH comes by way of her defenders, who don't do an especially good job on her behalf. I read the article, and I definitely don't think he was in any way suggesting guilt by his 50/50 comment. It does seem more than a stretch to suggest that he isn't talking about his opinion on the odds of arrest in regard to the matter at hand, as opposed to some wholly extraneous, unknown matter looming up from the past.

 

[Dee10]

From People:

...interrogated her for upto six hours several times. "The finger points back at stepmoms" says Moulton, "she's trying to be cooperative."

The use of the term "stepmoms" makes me think her father thinks that is the reason for targeting her.

 

[sleuthy sleutherson]

I dont think her dad is making an unreasonable assumption that TM might be picked up in this case...I think that is the 50/50 aspect-at least that is how I read it.

People is pretty good about sourcing their stuff-I do not believe he could have made a statement like that unless he was a legitimate source of information. I am not saying that People is anything other than it is-but their crime pieces are pretty well done usually. If Dad was estranged etc they typically point that out.

If we take as fact the things he said-she was interviewed for 6 hours, had two LDT, her vehicle was searched twice, then unless the same has been done for Kaine and Desiree and the 300+ witnesses for this case, it may be fair to say she is a focus of the investigation. MY WORDS, btw-jmo.

My thoughts exactly. I don't think of People mag as much more than a truthful sorce of much of Hollywood's lifestyle, events and problems. I will say that their reporting seems to be fact based and truthful which is why the mag is so popular and one people believe if they read an article from People. So, I guess I personaly would not discount anything her father's article talks about, I really don't think People would put it in print. And as far as the 50/50 comment, I'm sure it is just him thinking at this point LE seems to have put a lot of their focus on TH (which is understandable being all the info we have been given and as far as we know was the last or one of last to see Kyron) so an arrest may happen. I don't think it indicates guilt only an assumption based off what is known and has been proven or not proven at this time. :twocents:

 

[eyes4crime]

I wish Terri would get herself a lawyer - being cooperative is a nice way to be but when you are the sole focus of an investigation, it can turn into a nightmare. I'm still reeling from the Kevin Fox nightmare, where he became the sole focus of LE in the sexual assault and murder of his daughter, 3yo Riley. Like Terri, Kevin was the last person to be seen with Riley. She disappeared right out of their home during the night while sleeping. He didn't feel a need to lawyer up because he was innocent and it turns out - he was! Please lawyer up step-mom! And stop your family from giving interviews that cast another cloud of doubt on your innocence. moo

 

[miabellamoure]

My thoughts exactly. I don't think of People mag as much more than a truthful sorce of much of Hollywood's lifestyle, events and problems. I will say that their reporting seems to be fact based and truthful which is why the mag is so popular and one people believe if they read an article from People. So, I guess I personaly would not discount anything her father's article talks about, I really don't think People would put it in print. And as far as the 50/50 comment, I'm sure it is just him thinking at this point LE seems to have put a lot of their focus on TH (which is understandable being all the info we have been given and as far as we know was the last or one of last to see Kyron) so an arrest may happen. I don't think it indicates guilt only an assumption based off what is known and has been proven or not proven at this time. :twocents:

Haven't read the article as of yet but, I would imagine TH's Dad is doing what many parents would do when their child is the focus of something horrible...defend.

In regards to an arrest, I think that will very likely happen once Kyron is found. It's my belief that "if" TH is the perpetrator of Kyron's disappearance and God forbid his demise, that she will have left behind some kind of evidence (ex: a palm shaped bruise to Kyron's body) that can link her to the crime.

 

[Donjeta]

I haven't read the article but could the 50-50 comment be meant to convey an idea of "it's anybody's guess"?

 

[believe09]

I wish Terri would get herself a lawyer - being cooperative is a nice way to be but when you are the sole focus of an investigation, it can turn into a nightmare. I'm still reeling from the Kevin Fox nightmare, where he became the sole focus of LE in the sexual assault and murder of his daughter, 3yo Riley. Like Terri, Kevin was the last person to be seen with Riley. She disappeared right out of their home during the night while sleeping. He didn't feel a need to lawyer up because he was innocent and it turns out - he was! Please lawyer up step-mom! And stop your family from giving interviews that cast another cloud of doubt on your innocence. moo

If we were talking about just local LE who was perhaps incredibly tunnel visioned or biased, I would agree. But this is the FBI/CARD. I would be stunned if they were focusing on just the simple fact of "last seen with."

 

[Pensfan]

What is the date of the People magazine that you guys are reading?

 

[Dee10]

What is the date of the People magazine that you guys are reading?

July 5th

 

[grandmaj]

Part of the article is here. Don't do a screen shot and don't copy and paste it here please. But there is an article or part of one on this site. Charger thanks for the heads up.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Kyron-Horman-Open-Discussion/113113938734246?v=info

Please don't link to other FB sites without permission though 10-4? If you see something ask a MOD and we will decide on a case by case basis.

PS this is for discussion about the People article. Don't bring rumors or comments please and thank you.