New Statement from Steve Thomas. A MUST READ!

[Eagle1]

Eagle, sorry I seem to have missed the definition of FS?

FS as listed with the RDI, IDI.

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Means Fence Sitters, those still trying to look at all sides, minds not made up.There's still too many unknowns. Not locked into any one theory. Free independent thinkers if you will. Can see points on both sides. I have the impression you're probably one of us. I too think the Boatman report by a tabloid is part of the evidence.

 

[IrishMist]

Means Fence Sitters, those still trying to look at all sides, minds not made up.There's still too many unknowns. Not locked into any one theory. Free independent thinkers if you will. Can see points on both sides. I have the impression you're probably one of us. I too think the Boatman report by a tabloid is part of the evidence.

I hate to hi-jack a thread, but I ran across some information last night whilst looking for different information... that happens to me often. Anyway, I thought of Eagle right away.

In Perfect Murder, Perfect Town, (pages 199-200, paperback), they discuss the Boatman incident. He was discredited, not just based on the information he supplied for this case, but some others. He was found to have lied in one, and planted drugs in an other... I'm thinking we have another nut case that wanted to put himself in the middle of something important.

K. Sorry to take over the thread for Mr. Thomas! Back to him...

 

[barbiefm]

Without any evidence of an intruder, one is still left with what experts have said all along in this case, and that is that when a child is murdered, the statistics are overwhelming that a member of the family or someone close to the family did it. Of course, many would like to believe that an intruder killed Jon Benet because they don't want to believe that family could commit such a horrific assault on their own child! However, if one considers the fact that most expersts believe the crime scene was staged, we should realize that there would be no real reason for an intruder to have done this. Ramsey behaved strangely including never getting the $118,000. There are many other examples of bizarre behavior from the Ramseys, which have been well documented. Again, the broken window is the only thing that might lead to an intruder, and Ramsey says that he broke it. Consider the ransom note, the paint brush, the fiber evidence, the duct tape, the flash light, patsy and burks fingerprints on the pineapple bowl, etc., and one has to admit that the evidence does not support an intruder theory.

 

[Camper]

I hate to hi-jack a thread, but I ran across some information last night whilst looking for different information... that happens to me often. Anyway, I thought of Eagle right away.

In Perfect Murder, Perfect Town, (pages 199-200, paperback), they discuss the Boatman incident. He was discredited, not just based on the information he supplied for this case, but some others. He was found to have lied in one, and planted drugs in an other... I'm thinking we have another nut case that wanted to put himself in the middle of something important.

K. Sorry to take over the thread for Mr. Thomas! Back to him...

--->>>Thank you IrishMist. I have to say that labeling Boatman -unreliable- in drug dealings would NOT make him dislike murdered children. But it would most certainly give the Ramsey attorneys a most convenient solution to who might have been 'impersonating' their son.

Boatman = unreliable, so 'Impersonator' did not exist, poof, all gone.

Thanks Eagle 1. I sat on the fence for 2.5 months, then got off and never got back on it.

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[BBB167893]

"Shouldn't PR's DNA have been on the paint brush handle, if it was hers and she used it, and shouldn't hers be mixed in with the unidentified DNA?"

Unless she had been chewing the end, I can't see how. Anyway, I doubt that the DNA came from there.

"If the RDI team don't like the subject of the pineapple, no problem here. I've never cared much for it either. Burke or Patsy could have removed the bowl from the dishwasher and/or put it on the table to take out some for JonBenet to take up to her room in a tupperware container. So what? I've never thought it meant an awful lot."

The pineapple is absolutely crucial, because it contradicts the Ramseys' story about that night. If she had done what you claim, why not just say so?

"Of course, many would like to believe that an intruder killed Jon Benet because they don't want to believe that family could commit such a horrific assault on their own child!"

It rocks the comfort zone for too many people.

"However, if one considers the fact that most expersts believe the crime scene was staged, we should realize that there would be no real reason for an intruder to have done this."

And no attempt to explain why and intruder would do it makes any sense.

 

[LaMer]

"Alex Hunter whose bath towels have A.H. on em."

LOL!

Nopey nopey SuperDave, A.H.'s towels have :chicken: 's on em!

Likem lookeee like dis :chicken: :chicken:

 

[Camper]

Nopey nopey SuperDave, A.H.'s towels have :chicken: 's on em!

Likem lookeee like dis :chicken: :chicken:

--->>>That was my original thought, about the A.H. on the towels.

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[LaMer]

--->>>That was my original thought, about the A.H. on the towels.

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Yeah LOL He clucked thru the entire investigation! He reminds me of a rooster chick who has been desexed, no ba))s.

I often wonder how he lives with himself, but then again, for him to have conducted himself the way he did, I'm sure he doesn't even think about it! I doubt he has a conscience.

 

[Eagle1]

In Perfect Murder, Perfect Town, (pages 199-200, paperback), they discuss the Boatman incident. He was discredited, not just based on the information he supplied for this case, but some others. He was found to have lied in one, and planted drugs in an other... I'm thinking we have another nut case that wanted to put himself in the middle of something important.

K. Sorry to take over the thread for Mr. Thomas! Back to him...

Okay, I see Camper's already seen this, and I've just taken my PMPT paperback down from a shelf and jotted down the page numbers on the inside of the cover because I didn't remember reading it. Maybe I did.

We knew all along that the informant was SOMETIMES reliable and sometimes not, but his veracity isn't the point.

To me, the point is that someone JR could have known in college in Mich. or who JAR could have known in college was that far from Boulder and that interested in the case, rather unusual for guys. I only said it's possible someone was impersonating/trying to frame JAR for some reason, never said it was anything definite, just interesting. We could throw out everything we've learned in order to make the case more "simple" but I don't think that's the object of the game. I think every little thing is important, when it's a child's life. The duffle bag in the crawl space, for instance. Some little girl was found in one, in N. Ca. I think. Not implying the same killer or anything like that. Come to think of it, didn't Karr move to N. Ca. before JonBenet's murder? Just keeping an open mind about everything. No, I didn't think he was there, since murderers just don't act like that. We'll all be surprised if it ever turns out that he was in Boulder after all.

 

[luvbeaches]

Well, at least many feel he is drop dead georgous

That's so true...lol I may be old and married, but my eyes work just fine.

More importantly, he's a "stand-up" guy. How many people do you know that would put their career at risk by taking a stand on something like this? It's just a pity there aren't more people like him in this world.

 

[jubie]

Did SuperDave say that Alex Hunter's bath towels have A.H. on them?


Yes he did, but I suppose if you're and IDI you'd read it as his intitials and if you're a RDI you'd read it as 'donkey rear-end opening'


I'm ok with adding a :chicken: to it in keeping with the whole barnyard theme. :innocent:



Jubie

 

[barbiefm]

"I mean, considering that there is overwhelming hard evidence of an intruder (Its that little matter of the 'unknown DNA, mixed in with JBR's blood,' remember?)."

If there were overwhelming hard evidence of an intruder, someone would have heard it by now!

I certainly never have!

That DNA is possibly useless.

There is overwhelming evidence of an intruder? I actually don't know of any real evidence of an intruder. The DNA looks to be only a partial profile, and is also degraded. It seems to have been what is called an "artifact". Other than DNA there is no evidence that can be not be in tied in some way to the Ramseys. Giving the Ramseys a pass is why there has never been an indictment in this case. They conviently destroyed the crime scene and threw many red herrings out there in order to try to remove suspision from themselves. One can not ignore the odd behavior and events which just can't be explained away. The long list is just too coincidental.

 

[BBB167893]

Very succinct, barbie!

A lot of wrong thinking...lot of wrong thinking concerning this case.

 

[LaMer]

That's so true...lol I may be old and married, but my eyes work just fine.

More importantly, he's a "stand-up" guy. How many people do you know that would put their career at risk by taking a stand on something like this? It's just a pity there aren't more people like him in this world.

I just finished reading Steve Thomas's book---again! It sure is a pity, there aren't more people like him in this world! Steve Thomas did everything he could have done to bring JUSTICE for JonBenet. Steve Thomas is admired by his fellow workers and many many others! Steve Thomas's integity has shown through over and over, and he personified his integrity once again!

Well, even if the right people are never prosecuted, I think the majority of 'the people', know who 'the people' are who were responsible for JonBenet's death and cover-up.

Whether dead or alive, their 'souls' have to deal with it, and that can't lend to a great life or well being if they are 'alive' or 'in the 'hereafter'.

HAIL HAIL to STEVE THOMAS!

 

[cami]

Check out what Thomas has to say about recent events. He really tells it like it is. Very refreshing.

www.forstevethomas.com

what menu item is it under, please? All I see is "statement forthcoming."
Many thanks

 

[DaTeacher]

:banghead:
Bravo... A voice of reason.
DuhTeacher

I am neither a RDI, nor a IDI supporter.......I dont have enough facts &/or knowledge, to make a decision either way......whilst some days I read something, & say "Eureka!...thats it..it WAS the Ramseys"...other days it goes the other way......
The problem for me is that both sides have too MANY things that dont add up, to be absolutely certain......many times the only theory that makes sense , for me, is that both sides are right...& it was a joint effort on the part of the Ramseys AND non family, combined....

I should imagine, that whilst the DA, & LE have a great many facts more than the lounge chair wannabe sleuths have (as much as we would like to fool ourselves that we know all), they encounter many of the same problems........they may think they are reasonably sure that they know who was responsible, but there are those worrisome little details which , at the least ,dont fit, & at worst, point in another direction......

Along comes a man.....shouting his head off, via the written word "I DID IT".....who then repeats words to this effect on television, for the world to see....
What were the DA & LE supposed to do?....totally ignore him?
Or bring him in, in the hope that even if he hadnt done it, he might have information that would point more conclusively at who did...????

So...this didnt pan out....what a terrible thing...for EVERYONE!!!!!

I cannot understand why the RDI accusers are now gloating, celebrating, rubbing everyones nose in the fact, that the DA was wrong......
Somebody PLEASE explain to me how you see this as a cause for celebration & "I told you so"!

A small child is STILL dead.....her killer is STILL at large.....& some of you are going "WOOHOO...WE WERE RIGHT!"....
WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF????????

THIS is not a competition!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It is NOT RDI against IDI....we are SUPPOSED to be united in a common cause....to pinpoint a killer!

All this "OUR side writes better theories than YOUR side" et al, is disgraceful & reminiscent more of a schoolyard, than a forum of adults , seeking truth...

Can we please concentrate on keeping an open mind, & looking at ALL the details/facts/suppositions, instead of taking sides like children!

 

[BBB167893]

"It is NOT RDI against IDI....we are SUPPOSED to be united in a common cause....to pinpoint a killer!"

That's exactly why we should be united in getting this DA removed.

As an RDI, ever since the DA took over the case, she's had the appearance of collaborating with the Ramseys. Now, whether it is or not, it LOOKS like she abused her power to bring back someone she KNEW didn't do it in order to give them a gift, making it highly unlikely that a new DA will be able to charge them. It stinks.

And if you're an IDI, it's even worse, just for that reason! Her actions have only made the Ramseys look more guilty, only NOW, it seems they've bribed or blackmailed the DA onto their side, damaging any case they could possibly bring against some other suspect. And the much vaunted "investigators" she uses, those IDI heroes? Well, now they look like a bunch of morons. Not that they NEEDED her help for that!

This DA has been in office for almost 6 years. So far, she's handled the job with all of the skill of a one-legged man in a butt-kicking contest!

 

[Tricia]

I just finished reading Steve Thomas's book---again! It sure is a pity, there aren't more people like him in this world! Steve Thomas did everything he could have done to bring JUSTICE for JonBenet. Steve Thomas is admired by his fellow workers and many many others! Steve Thomas's integity has shown through over and over, and he personified his integrity once again!

Well, even if the right people are never prosecuted, I think the majority of 'the people', know who 'the people' are who were responsible for JonBenet's death and cover-up.

Whether dead or alive, their 'souls' have to deal with it, and that can't lend to a great life or well being if they are 'alive' or 'in the 'hereafter'.

HAIL HAIL to STEVE THOMAS!

In case you all missed it Thomas did a great interview on the Caplis/Silverman show on KHOW in Denver. Thanks to the poster "Yum Yum" you can listen to it right here. This was aired right after Lacy said no charges would be filed.
http://dimwit.byethost5.com/steve short.mp3

 

[Camper]

I eat, live, and my radio dial seldom leaves KHOW.

I have posted many times in the past, that in order to listen to OLDE broadcasts, you must go to KHOW.com and REGISTER to be enabled to listen to a huge inventory of OLDE broadcasts.

YOU CAN indeed listen to live broadcasts without registering.

The link Tricia posted did not work for me, it brought up an oriental design thingie.

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[BBB167893]

It's supposed to look like that, Camper. It's audio-only, last I knew.

Just go down to where it says:

View image/download file and click on that.