New to this case - what should I read/watch?

[UdbCrzy2]

Why should the state want further testing done? The right people are in prison, and the conviction of each of them rests on a mountain of testimony and evidence. But, by all means, let the defense test the bloody shirt and the bloody amulet. Don't worry.. they won't. They know that the chances are statistically huge that the DNA results wouldn't serve their purpose, and would quite likely produce results far from what they hope to find.



I'll have to remember that. Next time my cat lies down on my puma running shoes, I can just rip the laces out, and all cat hair will be gone. Why hasn't someone thought of this before!? Oh. Because it's imaginary nonsense that is supported by nothing more than a few supporters' wacky ideas



If you go to www.wm3blackboard.com and read about the laces, you will see that Michael was apparently tied with one lace cut in half. That lace would have to have been about 60" long. Childrens' laces are not that long

So that's our supposition, that the laces were cut in half at the crime scene instead of doing what many of us do when our kids laces bust...take a long shoelace from a pair of high-tops that we no longer wear, and cut it in half, then lace them up and they're ready to go. I guess that theory isn't salacious enough, tho? No, there has to be something eeeevil behind the shoestring fiasco.



The murderer MUST have done it. Surely couldn't attribute something like that to a parent getting a child ready for school, and child has busted lace. so parent digs out her old high tops, cuts the lace in half, and laces up child's shoes with two matching half laces. I've done it. Parents do it all the time.

Here's a link:
http://www.wm3blackboard.com/forum/index.php?topic=887.0[/QUOTE]


I'll pass. I don't have the time or energy to dispel fantasy posts which, if they resemble many of your posts here, are based on little fact and a lot of wishful distortion.

Nah, I'm pretty happy with what I've learned at callahan. And even jive puppi. But I won't spend time on sites which claim to be legitimate, while at the same time postulation outlandish theories.[/QUOTE]

I agree the defense will never test those items.

 

[Compassionate Reader]

The defense has requested testing of the shoelaces. They even requested testing of the "non ligature portion" of the lace used to bind Michael (which doesn't exist). This request, like the request of the "urine in the stomachs," was to prove it didn't exist, IMO. Neither the urine nor the non ligature portions were produced, to my knowledge. However, it is my understanding that the testing of the shoelaces is still ongoing.

 

[I Must Break You]

Paid discussed every aspect of his theory with experts and continues to look at possibilities that might tweak it. He presents it as a "theory" that a person can accept or not. OTOH, IMO, Jo3eph comes across as a know-it-all who expects everyone to fall down at his feet because he can post links from callahan's that do not always support his ramblings. That may sound harsh, but that's how I see this character. I have done some reading myself before embracing Paid's theory. His theory stands up to scrutiny; Jo3eph's IMO does not. Again, if the results of the enhanced testing of the fibers ever comes back, I have a feeling that all of Jo3eph's work will go by the wayside in the face of the new scientific information from further testing.

See that's the problem, Paids theory stands up to scrutiny to you, but to me it does not. I've stated on other threads some of my problems with it, but to me the clincher is, unless TH had an accomplice, than the idea of him dragging 60 lbs of dead weight up a manhole ladder and then around another 200 yards 3 times in the middle of the night in the woods is preposterous. I understand this is a common mistake for people that have no idea what carrying or lifting weights can entail. Reminds me of last night at the gym, actually, where I saw two inexperienced weight lifters immediately put 270 lbs on the bench press and nearly kill themselves when they tried to lift it. As I stated before I'm a big guy around 225 lbs and an experienced weight lifter as well as a former infantryman in the Army (so no stranger to lugging heavy weights long distances) and I would find that an exhausting and very daunting task, I just don't see it as something even remotely possible for a guy of THs small stature. So while Paids theory stands up to scrutiny to you, from my experiences it does not to me.

 

[Compassionate Reader]

I think that he threw the bodies over his shoulder and carried them out of the manhole one at a time. Then, he hogtied them so he could carry them to the discovery ditch. He worked in his father's slaughterhouse as a youth, so I think that he is/was capable of carrying the bodies.

I believe that he carried the bodies out of the manhole one at a time. Then, I think that he hogtied them on the bank and transported two to the discovery ditch (about 100 - 200 feet away) on the first trip and the last body and the clothes on a second trip. It could have been the other way around, but either way, I don't think that he would have had any trouble. Short men can be surprisingly strong, so don't let his stature fool you!