New Tribe Found in Amazon

[Kiki]

Look how beautiful they are. http://www.survival-international.org/news/3386
I have mixed feelings about contact with them. On the one hand it would undoubtably be corrosive to their religion and culture and also a terrifying experience for them. For want of a better phrase it would freak them out. Like Poco I wonder what they thought of the helicopters? That alone may have impacted their culture. They could have considered it a visit from an old god or new god and then it would become part of their folklore. As for them not needing Prozac or not being worried about the price of gas they would have worries, just different ones. For example, crops failing and their family starving, caring for children whose mother died in childbirth, dying from hunting or fighting injuries, fears about the next epidemic and the tribe's survival. On the other hand there's a risk that they practise infanticide or human sacrifice and that could definitely be stopped by contact.

 

[CuriousAnne]

They are beautiful. This is truly amazing!

 

[tarabull]

http://news.nationalpost.com/news/w...ribe-in-amazon-threatened-by-outside-invaders

 

[AliceInPain]

Those pictures are so sad.

They are, and feel, so threatened. :tears:

Wish something could be done to give them more protection.

 

[Tulessa]

[video=youtube;sLErPqqCC54]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLErPqqCC54[/video]

 

[HMSHood]

There are likely more uncontacted people in the Amazons and Papua New Guinea due to rough terrain and large area of rainforest.

 

[flourish]

There are likely more uncontacted people in the Amazons and Papua New Guinea due to rough terrain and large area of rainforest.

I have to admit, this blows my freaking mind. The idea that there are people on earth who are that primitive... Just... Boom to my brain. I guess I get the concept of people living differently, actually, it's the uncontacted part that just amazes me. Like, do they totally know about the rest of the world and choose to stay apart and, if so, what do they know/think about us? Do they realize airplanes are because of us or do they think they're creatures? It's all so fascinating.

 

[Jax49]

http://www.survivalinternational.org/tribes/uncontacted-brazil

Very little is known about these peoples. What we do know is that they wish to remain uncontacted: they have shot arrows at outsiders and airplanes, or they simply avoid contact by hiding deep in the forest.

There are tribes all over the world who have decided to remain isolated from national society or even other indigenous peoples.
That does not mean that they remain ‘undiscovered’ or ‘unchanged’. Most are already known about and however isolated, all constantly adapt to their changing circumstances.

 

[HMSHood]

I have to admit, this blows my freaking mind. The idea that there are people on earth who are that primitive... Just... Boom to my brain. I guess I get the concept of people living differently, actually, it's the uncontacted part that just amazes me. Like, do they totally know about the rest of the world and choose to stay apart and, if so, what do they know/think about us? Do they realize airplanes are because of us or do they think they're creatures? It's all so fascinating.

I wonder that too.

 

[Hatfield]

I have to admit, this blows my freaking mind. The idea that there are people on earth who are that primitive... Just... Boom to my brain. I guess I get the concept of people living differently, actually, it's the uncontacted part that just amazes me. Like, do they totally know about the rest of the world and choose to stay apart and, if so, what do they know/think about us? Do they realize airplanes are because of us or do they think they're creatures? It's all so fascinating.

It is fascinating and this is one reason why I think bigfoot could exist as well.

If humans are still being found that have had no contact with outside world then how much of a stretch is it that other amazing animals like bigfoot or a dinasour type Lock Ness water creature could exist.

I wish and hope their areas can be protected so they can live the way they always have been. But I fear that sooner or later they will be infected by modern folk who will claim they are doing it for their own good when in reality they will do much more harm than good.

Not many people realize that human encroachment and loss of habitat is much more detrimental to animals than anything else. It looks like human encroachment is now detrimental to humans themselves with these last few untouched tribes.

I've witnessed how loss of habitat is very destructive to animals and it is terribly sad. I've seen a healthy population herd of deer of about 40-60 get reduced to less than a dozen as housing development slowly worked its way towards their last area they could live. They eventually got surrounded by houses and development on all sides and there was only about a dozen left when we finally moved away from the area.

When we first moved there that herd of deer had about 40-60 deer in it and they had about 80 acres to live in. Over about a ten year span the developments worked their way towards them from all sides.

There was literally nowhere they could go and it is my belief that the mothers naturally had lesser and lesser babies born each year as their habitat area grew smaller and smaller. Some were hit by cars and some local bowhunters took a few but I think nature naturally reduced the birth rate as well which contributed to their population reduction.

A lasting burning image remains in my mind of seeing the small herd in one small corner looking out scared at me and scared at all the housing around them.

There was also a bountiful amount of rabbits, raccoons, squirrels, possums, birds, and other wildlife that got hugely reduced a well. The birds I suspect were able to fly away to greener pastures but the leg based wildlife literally had nowhere to go as around them was city streets houses and cars for miles.

To this day I am saddened by this memory. It taught me a huge lesson how loss of habitat is one of the worst things that can happen to animals of any kind.

 

[Tawny]

I'm extremely fascinated as well and it's really conflicting for me because while I want to know and learn all I can about them, I also want us "civilized" folk to just leave 'em the hell alone, you know? I want to know all about them but don't want to interrupt their lives <3

 

[HoneyWest]

I think they know they are not alone, but want to be left alone. And we should. Their lives are not up for our consumption.

 

[LietKynes]

Does anyone remember the book , "Through Gates of Splendor" , by Elisabeth Elliot ?
It's about missionaries to the Indians in Ecuador. The problem with their actions --which eventually led to the men's demise -- was that they barged in, uninvited.

They were never asked in person by these indigenous peoples to be their (the Indians') guests.
Very rude of these Americans.

You should never tell anyone your feelings or beliefs unless asked to do so. The missionaries in Ecuador learned this difficult lesson.

Hopefully this new tribe will be left alone ,and their land as well !

If a person worships the Earth-- fine. But ... keep it to yourself !
No one else wants to know; and if they do --they'll ask you to tell them how to worship Earth.

Just sad that these people are forced to listen to a way of life that will never benefit them. Imo.

 

[HoneyWest]

Genocide: Goldminers massacre uncontacted Amazon tribe:

https://www.survivalinternational.org/news/11810

Public prosecutors in Brazil have opened an investigation after reports that illegal goldminers in a remote Amazon river have massacred “more than ten" members of an uncontacted tribe. If confirmed, this means up to a fifth of the entire tribe have been wiped out.

Two goldminers have been arrested.

The killings allegedly took place last month along the River Jandiatuba in western Brazil, but the news only emerged after the goldminers started boasting about the killings, and showing off “trophies” in the nearest town.

 

[Cryptic]

just great, now the missionaries will move in and destroy these peoples way of life. Missionaries being the discovery channel, national geographic and the religious ones.

They will be wearing T-shirts from Disneyworld and FILA tennis shoes by next year.

Hopefully this new tribe will be left alone ,and their land as well !

The photo is real, but the claim is a hoax.

The tribe has been known since the 1930s. They are isolated, but not un contacted. (well, those members still choosing to live a traditional life- others apparently have a less romantic notion of the life of a hunter gatherer in what can be a green / wet desert food wise than others do and have drifted into mestizo settlements)

That aside, they are supposed to be left alone and not "discovered" by being buzzed with helicopters. But some eco types obtained the GPS coordinates of the village- not well published, but not top secret either, then went and "discovered" them.

My guess is their stunt is similar to Al Gore's claim of being "Down" for the environment, while waaay up in his private jet. Go figure.

 

[Cryptic]

Does anyone remember the book , "Through Gates of Splendor" , by Elisabeth Elliot ?
It's about missionaries to the Indians in Ecuador. The problem with their actions --which eventually led to the men's demise -- was that they barged in, uninvited.

The actual story is more complicated that.....

That is probably not what led to the demise of the missionaries. The tribe in question was isolated, but not uncontested. The missionaries first contacted a local mestizo who had had limited contact with the indians via canoe. The missionaries made several earlier landings with out incident. The natives were not very receptive, but not hostile either.

But, the missionaries were invited back. Perhaps the natives were hoping for rifles instead of bibles. You see, the tribe was engaged in an up close and personal civil war at the time.

Tribal faction 'A' thought that the missionaries were traders and that member of faction 'B' that had met them on the landings would soon be obtaining rifles from them (not an unreasonable fear). Faction 'A' then launched a pre-emptive strike on the missionaries. I guess pre-emptive strikes are not limited to developed nations.

Just sad that these people are forced to listen to a way of life that will never benefit them. Imo.

I can tell that you are probably just like me. We both have very little experience with trying to live on subsistence agriculture. Romanticism aside, it is a hard life.

Where I think you and I differ is that I have worked with such people. I can assure you that none of the ones I have spoken to felt they were being "forced" into a life that had "no" benefit for them.

Sure, some wanted more change than others, but in the end, all concluded they could benefit from some aspects of "evil" western technology. In fact, many were excited about electricity and educational opportunities for their children.

 

[Cryptic]

I think they know they are not alone, but want to be left alone. And we should. Their lives are not up for our consumption.

That could well be a good description of them. Or, they could have been forced into more isolation by rivals with in their tribe.

Basically, these groups of hunter gatherers are not "tribes". A tribe consisting of only say 50 people would quickly become a genetic dead end and die out. Rather, these groups are more isolated bands (say two extended family groups living together) of a larger tribe.

Rivalries between bands can lead to some very personal feuds. I think the following link shows how intense these "family feuds" with in a tribe can be: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Native_American_Medal_of_Honor_recipients

26 Native Americans have won the Medal of Honor. 10 Native Americans who have earned the Medal of Honor were Apaches serving as Army scouts against other Apaches.