New Video Interviews released from SA's office 11/21 #2

[Paintr]

I don't think CA will have a problem with it, she will live in her dream world. She will continue to think as she is now that it is not KC's fault, that someone else is responsible and that LE didn't do there job.

GA will just hid his head in the sand, never speaking of it and problaby go to an early grave from the stress.

I too think that George will have a very hard time bearing up under this in the long run. Cindy is all surface but George IMO goes deeper. Cindy is loosing weight but George is loosing his soul. Sadly,I too, think he will not last long.

 

[Elley Mae]

So Cindy told Yuri that she would not cooperate with them if they went to the nursing home.

 

[Paintr]

Cindy gets so side tracked in what she is saying. I have a hard time remembering what the initial response is.

Is this deliberate? Maybe she hopes the agents can't remember either.

(O/T love your dogs. Got one myself)

 

[amysmom]

Yeah really..suddenly CA was a burden and before KC ALWAYS made time to talk to CA..big RED FLAG.

But prior to this statement (towards the end) she said numerous times everything seemed fine, it all made total sense to her, & she had no reason to be suspicious so which is it?

 

[Bree0372]

I haven't read this entire thread so I apologize if this has already been discussed:

I find it interesting that CA thinks it's suspicious that JG contacted LE right away. Wasn't it said initially that JG returned a phone call to LE? LE reached out to several people that day using KC's phone, IIRC.

I don't "get" CA...her huge conspiracy theory that Ricardo going up North and then on to PR has anything to do with Caylee's disappearance. And then to throw Amy, and the others under the bus too. :bang:

I LOL'd when CA kept telling the FBI guy that "this is important"...like she was teaching a seasoned FBI agent how to perform an investigation.

 

[Elley Mae]

So Cindy tells the FBI that she is willing to take a poly, what happened? Lee

 

[BeanE]

I have to have a calendar marked to help me keep track of all dates and lies.

The first mention I found of the squirrel story was on the 25th in a text message to Amy.

Trying to remember dates of when things happened has to be terribly hard. The only dates in this story I really trust are the text dates because of the electronic record.

Thanks, Cher! I just found that text message on the 25th too. I wonder if the encounter with George with the gas cans on the 24th is what brought the decomp smell problem to the forefront of Casey's mind enough to start mentioning it, and to realize it was a growing problem she could no longer ignore.

 

[angelmom]

Does anyone remember the story 'The Monkry's Paw'? In it a mother wishes on a charmed dried monkey's paw to bring her dead son back to life after he has been buried. As they hear him approaching the door the father throws the paw into the fire breaking the spell as he realizes what horror they will get back.

With all their flailing around to save Casey, I wonder if any of the A's have thought of what they will get back if they can manage for Casey to escape these charges. They will have to live with her, always knowing, with thoughts of Caylee hovering, for the rest of their lives. Perhaps it's past time for the A's to 'throw the paw into the fire'

Oooooh, I shivered when I read this. What a great comparison.

No, I don't think it has occurred to any of them what would happen. I actually posted a similar question ages ago - that is, I wonder what the As expect to happen if Casey were to be presumed innocent and truthful, released from jail, and no one is looking for Caylee anymore. Would they just go back to their lives as if Caylee had never been born? Would G & C keep up their "search" forever (like OJ, in a creepy kind of way)? How do they expect this to end if Casey never tells what really happened?

 

[BeanE]

So Cindy told Yuri that she would not cooperate with them if they went to the nursing home.

Yuri testifies to this in the bond hearing (there's a video for it). Cindy's reaction when he testifies about it is priceless. It's all she can do to stay in her seat in the courtroom.

 

[MaedchenX]

So Cindy told Yuri that she would not cooperate with them if they went to the nursing home.

She set that one up IMO, she needed a reason for the family to feel betrayed by LE because she never intended for them to fully cooperate on their terms. I think this is not only an act of control but actively trying to create a rift between the family and LE to try and play into KC's defense (railroading of KC).

 

[Zoe Bogart]

Hmmm... huge problem here... please help me, sleuthers, because I'm stumped.

Most of the info here from the FBI interviews as well as the OCSO interviews. A little info from elsewhere such as Casey/Amy text messages. I've gone back to verify info and to answer some questions. I still have some questions. As I said though, I'm stumped!

George says:

* June 24 - Casey came to the house, he asked for the tool out of the trunk of her car, walked with Casey to the car, Casey took the gas cans out of the trunk and gave them to him. Question: did he ever say if Cindy was at the house that day?

* one day between June 24 and June 30 when the car was towed
- Casey called Cindy and asked to borrow her car. Cindy said yes.
- Casey came to the house, alone, in her car to pick up Cindy's car
- Cindy and George were home
- Cindy gave Casey the keys to her (Cindy's) car
- Casey drove off
- George said he was going to follow Casey. Cindy told George not to. George followed Casey anyway.
- Question: did George return home after losing Casey and giving up the chase?
- Casey came back, alone, left Cindy's car and picked up her own car.
- Casey did the car return/pick-up late afternoon or evening
- Question: why no mention from Cindy or George of the decomp smell from Casey's car?
- Question: what date did Casey begin mentioning the decomp smell to others? I know she mentioned on June 27 to Amy H that she had gotten rid of the smell.
- Did Cindy or George look in Casey's car that afternoon? George wanted very much to know what was going on with Casey, that's why he followed her that day. He had keys to Casey's car. Wouldn't the curiosity that prompted him to follow her also prompt him to open up Casey's car while it was in the driveway of their house and Casey was gone?


Cindy says:

- June 16 - Casey stayed at Zanny's
- June 17 - Casey stayed at Zanny's
- June 18 through July 3 - Casey was out of town

If Cindy's claims that Casey said she was out of town June 18 through July 3 are true, then George's claim about Casey borrowing Cindy's car and him chasing her and Cindy telling him not to chase her between June 24 and June 30 is one big fat lie. He remembers dates and details so well, but claims not to remember the date this happened except that it was *definitely* between June 24 and June 30. His voice/mannerisms are funny to me when he says he can't remember the exact date.

Question: what do the pings tell us about when this could have happened?

I think George is telling the truth about the incident because I can't think of a reason for him to make it up.

------- My theory (my opinion, my speculation): --------
Cindy didn't want George to tell LE or FBI about this incident. Why? Well, it looks to me that she's lying about the Casey out of town stories which she uses for her 'theories' that just happen to occur to her the night before she's going to meet with the FBI. And what's she doing with the FBI? Well, she couldn't convince OCSO that Casey had nothing to do with Caylee's murder, so she's desperately trying to convince the FBI that Casey had nothing to do with Caylee's murder by telling the FBI a big long winded tale of theories that all put Caylee out of town.

In other words, she doesn't believe her 'theories' and her 'clues' herself. She stayed up and concocted them specifically to try to throw the FBI (and later OCSO) off track with them. She just never expected George to throw her under the bus and tell anybody about Casey borrowing the car.

So now we have Cindy deliberately fabricating lies to tell the FBI and OCSO to cover up Casey murdering Caylee, and that, my friends, as you know, is obstruction of justice.

No wonder Cindy didn't to swear what she'd said was the truth in the OCSO interview!!!

Re: the parts in bold - yes, it appears George is the one telling the truth. Have you noticed when Cindy tells these stories about the non-existent people doing things that never happened, she goes into minute details? When she speaks of something which really happened, she barely gives any details. Also, her body language is calmer when she's telling the truth, when she's telling those exaggerated stories, she's all over the place, fidgeting, tapping, kick her feet.

Let's not forget, Cindy is a good judge of character. She can look a person in the eye and see if they're telling the truth.

George didn't want Cindy to know he told the FBI as that information about the cars and how he followed Casey on the 408, he said as much to OCSO.

I know one thing, if Cindy had it her way, Amy, Ricardo, and Jesse would be sitting in a jail cell right now. :furious: Anybody but Casey!

Note: Cindy said the last time she saw Caylee, the child could count to 32 in Spanish. Just the other day, Cindy released info on Caylee saying she could count to 45 in Spanish. :crosseyed:

Don't forget, Cindy thinks Amy has motive, while the FBI doesn't see it. What's wrong with these guys? Don't they know Cindy can see whose telling the truth and who isn't.

Why can't we put things together so Casey could get off the hook? Casey is waiting for us to set her free. It's up to everyone else to figure out the case, find Caylee, and set Casey free. We need to hurry, the 55 days were up long ago!!!! Get with it, people! :furious:

 

[Elley Mae]

That's it I have had it, I for one am so sick and tired of Cindy with "Like a normal day" "Red Flag" "From day one" "My daughter is a lair but,Casey did not kill her daughter"

 

[zoey]

After listening to CA's interview (which I couldn't finish) I am still trying to get thru the fog. It is unbelievable how detailed KC's lies were! She had an explanation for everything. She took pieces from the people around her and created her own story. CA sounded like she was totally believing everything and still wanted to believe KC's story even though she knew it couldn't possibly be true. One of the many things that caught my attention was KC's explanation of the car. KC said the car was getting repaired but she didn't know where it was. She of course knew it wasn't getting repaired but knew where she left it. We know it was towed away by someone else. It made me think of Caylee and how she doesn't know where she is. Maybe she knew where she left her but someone else moved her which has been theorized.

does ponder the thought process as to what was told & what ca has now embellished to make kc seem like the perfect child/mother/friend--all around wonderchild...raised by the perfect mom (note I did leave out GA because in this land--I don't think he fits..he was a doubter and that isn't in the law of the land)--as someone pointed out on this board it truly is the ABC (anyone but kc... :furious:) of that land---outsiders are not welcome unless they forfeit thei logic/brain in this matter and concede to believe in the "alive" Caylee & "mom of the year" kc...sad---they need to give up...to much out there--next it will be that somone was forcing kc to party...
jmo

 

[Cher352]

Thanks, Cher! I just found that text message on the 25th too. I wonder if the encounter with George with the gas cans on the 24th is what brought the decomp smell problem to the forefront of Casey's mind enough to start mentioning it, and to realize it was a growing problem she could no longer ignore.

You are probably right. KC had a close call with GA and realized she better have an explanation.

In this latest interview GA states he could see what was in the trunk. Wonder if it was windy on the 24th and GA was upwind of the car is why he didn't notice the smell then???

 

[tangerinemoon]

In his glossary, Dr. Jacob L. Driesen defines pressured speech as "rapid, virtually nonstop, often loud and emphatic, seemingly driven, and usually hard to interrupt. It typically occurs in mania and in some drug-induced states and in severe anxiety states." In her book Bipolar Disorders, Mitzi Waltz uses the phrase "motormouth" to describe pressured speech.

Pressured speech occurs in bipolar children as well as adults.

http://bipolar.about.com/cs/faqs/f/faq_presspeech.htm


I am Not saying that CA is bipolar, but, as a healthcare professional, I can't help but analyze her speech pattern, demeanor in these tapes/CD's.

 

[SuziQ]

So Cindy told Yuri that she would not cooperate with them if they went to the nursing home.

And she's appalled that Yuri mentioned that in the bond hearing. Go figure.

 

[LEFT-COASTER]

Im trying to listen to tape 6.. Ive kinda listened (tried to listen to them all but they all just sound like jiberish)..
the thing that gets me.. Is this....
CA spend forever telling these stories that kc had told her.. like the hospital..... We alll know that none of this ever happened.. so why is it so important for CA to tell the whole bit, CA just keeps on and on telling KC's lies.. Its reallly odd..

 

[Elley Mae]

Im trying to listen to tape 6.. Ive kinda listened (tried to listen to them all but they all just sound like jiberish)..
the thing that gets me.. Is this....
CA spend forever telling these stories that kc had told her.. like the hospital..... We alll know that none of this ever happened.. so why is it so important for CA to tell the whole bit, CA just keeps on and on telling KC's lies.. Its reallly odd..

I think she still believes them,remember the stories are parts to the puzzle to find Caylee, so she is hoping that someone will help decrypt the code that Casey is telling without really telling so the family will not be harmed and they can live happily forever after. Don't you know the script. LOL

 

[amysmom]

I don't "get" CA...her huge conspiracy theory that Ricardo going up North and then on to PR has anything to do with Caylee's disappearance.

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I wonder who told CA that Ricardo went up North to see his "mother"?

It was a biz trip according to Ricardo & AH's statements to LE so it's not them & I don't see how it could've been KA since CA said she didn't have a chance to talk to her about any of the trip details or anything else for that matter re: the time she was missing once she got arrested & was held in jail..

 

[Theonly1]

This is killing me. On this video below Cindy is telling the FBI how she thought on June 24 (and into the 25th, etc.) that Casey was with Zani in Tampa. While she does admit that she knows later that Casey was not in Tampa she goes on about how Zani and Casey were still in the hospital on the 24th, 25th, etc. HOWEVER, I'm totally confused because she never tells the FBI how GEORGE SAW CASEY on the 24th. And GEORGE told CINDY that he saw Casey on the 24th! So how can she even pretend that Casey kept updating her on the Zani/car accident story (after the 24th) when she would have known after the George confrontation that 1) Casey was NOT in Tampa, and 2) Casey HAD NOT BEEN in Tampa (because she'd stolen gas the days before the 24th). Cindy certainly would have called Casey out on the mat after the afternoon of June 24th. But talking to the FBI NONE OF THIS IS MENTIONED!

WHY?

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/M....jsp?contentId=7929995&version=1&locale=EN-US