New Years Eve (Party)

  • #41
I notice that Billie didn't mention any of this family staying the night or any weekend night at her house during their trip to town. Why weren't any of them staying with her cleaning house, doing her laundry, and cooking up a week's worth of food instead of sittting around drinking two cases of beer? If they came over to visit and then went out and bought so much booze just because it was New Year's Eve then someone did turn it into a party of sorts IMO. That's a lot of booze.
 
  • #42
I notice that Billie didn't mention any of this family staying the night or any weekend night at her house during their trip to town. Why weren't any of them staying with her cleaning house, doing her laundry, and cooking up a week's worth of food instead of sittting around drinking two cases of beer? If they came over to visit and then went out and bought so much booze just because it was New Year's Eve then someone did turn it into a party of sorts IMO. That's a lot of booze.

Sounds like one of of my friends' family. She says with relatives like hers, she'd rather be an orphan...maybe it's not so surprising BD behaves the way she does...
 
  • #43
There is a BIG DIFFERENCE between a New Year's Eve Party and a Search Party !

:fireworks: + :toast: + :partyguy: + :drink:

New Year's Eve Party


:angel: :angel: :angel: :cop:
Search Party


Now that we know much more about the "lifestyles" of Billie and the crew in Colorado City .. than we knew in January when we first heard about the NYE Party ...

I believe it was a New Year's Eve Party.
 
  • #44
All righty then. I have not posted on this thread before but felt that I needed to just have a comment and that's all. My husband was Irish and God Bless His soul, every occasion no matter what caused the occasion was a call for having a drink. Weddings, funerals, graduations, family reunions, it didn't matter. I can easily see if family were together, crying and worrying about a missing child, you shared a drink and commiserated together. It may not seem right to some, but that is just what it was. I dont' see anything out of ordinary in family being together and having a drink at the same time. Go ahead and throw the tomatoes or insults, it is what it is. However, that doesn't mean that I think BD and SA are innocent in the cause for the disappearance of Hailey. I think they are in it up to their eyeballs. I'm just saying that I just didn't see any criminal actions on this New Years Eve.
 
  • #45
All righty then. I have not posted on this thread before but felt that I needed to just have a comment and that's all. My husband was Irish and God Bless His soul, every occasion no matter what caused the occasion was a call for having a drink. Weddings, funerals, graduations, family reunions, it didn't matter. I can easily see if family were together, crying and worrying about a missing child, you shared a drink and commiserated together. It may not seem right to some, but that is just what it was. I dont' see anything out of ordinary in family being together and having a drink at the same time. Go ahead and throw the tomatoes or insults, it is what it is. However, that doesn't mean that I think BD and SA are innocent in the cause for the disappearance of Hailey. I think they are in it up to their eyeballs. I'm just saying that I just didn't see any criminal actions on this New Years Eve.

Would you feel compelled to lie about it? Try to play it down? There's nothing wrong with what you suggest, in fact it's quite normal, but the way Billie treated this evening makes it strange. imo
 
  • #46
Would you feel compelled to lie about it? Try to play it down? There's nothing wrong with what you suggest, in fact it's quite normal, but the way Billie treated this evening makes it strange. imo

Just because the situation itself is normal doesn't mean that every person who was there is totally on the up-and-up.
 
  • #47
As I recall, BD explained it as not a party. It was relatives who were coming to be with her and to be supportive of Billie as Hailey had gone missing. You know, like families do. Help & support each other in their hours of need. I think BD discussed this on NG's show early on. She said something like there wasn't alcohol but there might have been beer and SA might have had one.

All as I recall, per my flawed memory.
Not saying I agree with her explanation of what took place just relating the story as I heard it.

JMHO

ha! Let's just call it what it was.....a PARTY! Just sayin....
 
  • #48
Peter Hyatt, in an interview with CD, indicated

(Clint verified that 2 cases of beer were brought in)

http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=189599337718905&topic=255

But Grace grilled her about the alleged “party” on her HLN show Wednesday night, and Dunn acknowledged that Adkins had a beer during the get-together. She said the group did not watch the ball fall in Times Square.

“We were watching the news,” she said.

She said she did not buy “street drugs” the night before she reported her daughter missing.

http://m.reporternews.com/news/2011/jan/12/hailey-dunns-mother-addresses-findings-affadavits/

I cannot find a link that directly states SA brought the beer into the home, so I will retract my statement.

MOO

Mel

And I just wanted to add a little further detail of just how all over the place..inconsistent..and downright lies that Billie Dunn "surprising" told about the "New Years Eve Party"..

GRACE: Did you have out food for them? Was anybody having drinks?

BILLIE DUNN: I know that there was a lot of food out, and I think Shawn had some drinks. Nobody else. Nobody was worried about having a New Year`s Eve party

So Shawn was having "drinks" at this NYE "party"

GRACE: So you`re telling me that you have people over, you had food out, alcohol was being served, but it was not a party.

BILLIE DUNN: There was no party, and we weren`t serving alcohol. I think Shawn had a beer.

and then literally less than 30 secs later{3 lines down in Transcript}..
Billie now states that Shawn had "a beer"..

So as with everything else that Billie Jean Dunn states as "fact" about not only the NYE "party" BUT ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING IN/AND AROUND THIS ENTIRE CASE..YOU CANNOT BELIEVE A SYLLABLE THAT COMES FROM HER MOUTH..BECAUSE SHE..HERSELF CONTINUES TO CONTRADICT JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING THAT SHE SPEAKS AS "FACT"..

As I've said before SA has come off a 1000 times more believable than BJD{and Good Lord is that sad because he most likely is the one that murdered Hailey}..while BJD is Hailey's flesh and blood "mother"..sad..sad..sad..

I'd say its much more likely that just as Shawn stated per the affidavit..
"We had a few friends over for drinks to celebrate New Years Eve"..and I believe that's exactly what took place in Billie Jean Dunn's home..72 hours after her daughter "disappeared" on New Years Eve 2010...
 
  • #49
Information was also obtained that ADKINS and Billie DUNN hosted a New Years Eve party at their home after Hailey DUNN had been reported missing. ADKINS downplayed the “party” stating they just had a few friends over to the house to have drinks for New Years Eve.

Affidavit

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/image...page/nxd_media/dox/pdf/2011_01/Affidavit .PDF

Interesting that Shawn didn't say oh it was just some family members of Billie's that came over to show her support that night and nobody drank any alcohol.

Instead he says they had several friends over, specifically to have drinks for New Year's Eve.

I have one beautiful daughter. If she went missing, NYE would be OFF my radar! I would be far too consumed with finding her and my own internal pain!

I am empathetic and undertand that people 'cope' in their own ways...but FOUR days after my baby went missing?????

I could care less about ringing in a new year! In fact, I think I would want to go BACK in time!!!!
 
  • #50
And I just wanted to add a little further detail of just how all over the place..inconsistent..and downright lies that Billie Dunn "surprising" told about the "New Years Eve Party"..



So Shawn was having "drinks" at this NYE "party"



and then literally less than 30 secs later{3 lines down in Transcript}..
Billie now states that Shawn had "a beer"..

So as with everything else that Billie Jean Dunn states as "fact" about not only the NYE "party" BUT ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING IN/AND AROUND THIS ENTIRE CASE..YOU CANNOT BELIEVE A SYLLABLE THAT COMES FROM HER MOUTH..BECAUSE SHE..HERSELF CONTINUES TO CONTRADICT JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING THAT SHE SPEAKS AS "FACT"..

As I've said before SA has come off a 1000 times more believable than BJD{and Good Lord is that sad because he most likely is the one that murdered Hailey}..while BJD is Hailey's flesh and blood "mother"..sad..sad..sad..

I'd say its much more likely that just as Shawn stated per the affidavit..
"We had a few friends over for drinks to celebrate New Years Eve"..and I believe that's exactly what took place in Billie Jean Dunn's home..72 hours after her daughter "disappeared" on New Years Eve 2010...

I can't prepare food if I am tired or overworked!!!!
HOW on earth do you prepare food when your daughter is missing??????

OMG! At least Zahra's step-monster was SO clearly a Psychopath! Poor Hailey, she did not stand a chance with THIS crew!

It sounds like SHE was the most intelligent (wonders never cease with her genetic lineage!) among her family members.

I think DD was removed for his own safety. LE knows a LOT more than we do!
 
  • #51
Who in their right mind would throw a beer drinking party 72 hours after your child had vanished? And if you could, wouldn't you get so stoopid stoned drunk you'd be hauled off to jail for screaming your heart out to the heavens for answers! Or smashing the windows out with beer bottles? Or calling the police chief all hours of the night and begging for help to find your precious child!

Somehow my thoughts want to make a connection to the drinking BD was so upset by at the Haileys Angels search banquet. It seems very hypocritical. She is always acting how she perceives she should act, but I don't think she makes connections. BD appears so unusual in her actions. I think she is the one that needs the psych help, SA is just an evil puppet...

When my children have been born we have "parties" for days. Lots of food and relatives and one year I even requested brandy slushes! I home birthed and it was a happy time.
However, if one of my children were hurt, lost, or dead I would only want the comfort of my mother. I wouldn't want friends, relatives or seemingly caring people distracting me from my personal grief. I hope I wouldn't self medicate-I like to feel what I am experiencing because it guides me. I would probably be a lunatic! No one would want to be around me and it would not be a party atmosphere.
JMO
 
  • #52
I can't prepare food if I am tired or overworked!!!!
HOW on earth do you prepare food when your daughter is missing??????

OMG! At least Zahra's step-monster was SO clearly a Psychopath! Poor Hailey, she did not stand a chance with THIS crew!

It sounds like SHE was the most intelligent (wonders never cease with her genetic lineage!) among her family members.

I think DD was removed for his own safety. LE knows a LOT more than we do!

Most likely it was food brought by the family and friends -- quite possibly by friends who weren't even there for the evening. BD doesn't strike me as the kind to find solace in the kitchen. But my mother would almost certainly react by cooking up a storm, partly because food is her way of expressing love and partly because by being busy she wouldn't have to think.

People react differently. They remember things differently and they often contradict themselves. That doesn't automatically make them psychopaths or liars.
 
  • #53
IMO the party is proof that at that time no one in the home was concerned about Hailey's welfare
They were all ok with her disappearance.

That just doesn't work in my mind.
MOO
 
  • #54
Would you feel compelled to lie about it? Try to play it down? There's nothing wrong with what you suggest, in fact it's quite normal, but the way Billie treated this evening makes it strange. imo

I don't know how BD "lied" about this NE "party?" She described what was going on at her house that night, and I haven't seen where BD referred to that night as a party. Did I miss something?
 
  • #55
Clint never said it wasn't a party. Clint said he didn't see a party. Big difference.

This was discussed and links posted before showing what Clint actually said. Let me know if you need help finding the links and I'd be happy to pull them up for you.

Okay Clint saw two cases of beer going in and missed seeing a party.

Two cases of beer from across a feild are lot harder to see than a party. The beer went in the back door and the party came in the front.
I Wonder why the beer didnt go in with the party ,in the front door near where the drive way is?
IMO He said he didnt see a party because he didnt think what he did see was a party.
 
  • #56
I don't know about Texas, but in Montana where I grew up, family and friends and neighbors would rally around and everybody would bring food and/or beverage. My family happens to be non-drinking but lots of folks weren't. Fire, funeral, somebody seriously ill in the hospital -- it's all met with people gathering with food and support. It looks like a party to outsiders but that's not what's going on.

Also, some people cope by trying to maintain the routine as much as possible. By trying to keep things "normal."

Note that I'm not saying what I think of this particular person, but the description of the non-party rings true to me.

I am from rural Missouri and that is also the custom here. And yes some people would think it looked like a party. Especially if they weren't use to it.
 
  • #57
Information was also obtained that ADKINS and Billie DUNN hosted a New Years Eve party at their home after Hailey DUNN had been reported missing. ADKINS downplayed the “party” stating they just had a few friends over to the house to have drinks for New Years Eve.

Affidavit

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/image...page/nxd_media/dox/pdf/2011_01/Affidavit .PDF

I hope I don't come across as defending anyone here.... :waitasec:

It doesn't surprise me that Shawn referred to it as "friends." I think that Shawn and Billie's brother D were friends and shared some interests. (The brother that was arrested that night and bonded out quickly. Also the one who took 3 polygraphs and passed the third one.)

So if he came over, Shawn probably saw that as a "friend" coming over for drinks... not a family member coming over for support. While Billie might see it as family coming over for support.

I don't think Billie cooked anything, I think the food was brought over. People bring food if someone dies, has surgery, their house burns down. People were leaving flowers outside someone's burned down house here. :waitasec: We never know if someone is having a party, a wedding or a funeral. We just know there is a lot of people at someone's house.

I don't care much about the beer... my Dad went through a 2 liter of Pepsi and a bottle of rum when his father died. Like, that night. And hey, maybe the beer was on sale? Buy one get the second half off or something?

I don't know.... and I'm totally not defending anyone.
 
  • #58
I think that both Billie and Shawn were telling the truth, in their own way,

For Billie, it may be true, in her mind it was just family coming to support her.
But Shawn, he probably DID think of it as a party. His friends probably brought the beer
and partied with him. IMO
 
  • #59
In December of 1999, my first husband was diagnosed with uterine cancer. On December 28th, he took a turn for the worse, and by December 31st, was in a coma. The ICU had strict visiting policies, so I could not sit at his bedside around the clock, and had no choice, really, but to go home at night and wait.

That was the big Y2K New Year's Eve, and everyone's excitement was in overdrive. I, on the other hand, was in a situation I think similar in some ways to one faced by the parent of a missing child, expecting the outcome to be grim, but holding onto a very thin strand of hope, and waiting for a phone call that I prayed would never come. And while the rest of the world was giddy with anticipation of the new millenium, I was crushed beneath the dread of a future without my loved one, who in my case was my husband.

Friends and relatives offered to come spend the evening with me. Others thought it would be good for me to get out and see the fireworks on the riverfront. Well, no way in hell was I going to subject myself to the torture of being surrounded by revelers, but I was grateful to those who took my son out so he could forget for awhile and have some fun, and I could be spared having to put on a good face for him.

BUT, had I relented and allowed visitors to come over, there would have been food and more than likely, beer and wine. That's just how we do it around here. The evening would've started quietly, but soon there would've been chatter, and eventually even laughter. To outsiders looking in, it would've looked like a party. What they actually would have seen is simply people behaving naturally. But I couldn't have any of it. Guess I wanted to be dead, too, that night. I was older than Billie, though. At 42, I knew my decision to stay home alone was best for everyone. Ten years earlier, I might've allowed myself to be talked into having company and ended up more miserable pretending to feel good for everyone else's sake.

So, after sharing that long story, with as much disdain as I have for Billie Dunn, I just can't make a big deal out of the alleged NYE "party". Even if others were having a bit of fun, we don't know what Billie was feeling that night. At any rate, and I could be wrong (what's that wonderful line about "my WTF factor knows no limits"?), I seriously doubt Billie made a conscious decision to throw a party and celebrate. As for Shawn, well that's a whole different matter.
 
  • #60
I am from rural Missouri and that is also the custom here. And yes some people would think it looked like a party. Especially if they weren't use to it.
Please excuse me while I jump off of your post to make a point, Hippy Chick. The kind of gathering you're talking about is fairly common in most parts, though customs vary among cultures. It's certainly the norm here in New Orleans to eat and drink after funerals. In fact, practically every funeral home in the area has a restaurant and barroom nearby so we can start "gathering" while the wake's going on the night before the funeral. In some circles, your friends might even hold a second line parade for you the next morning with music and dancing once you're in the ground. Likewise, in the case of illness, families get together and share food and drink. Depending on the age of the ailing person and the circumstances, the atmosphere often becomes jovial. Not so when the victim is a child, however. If there is a gathering, or repast, after a child's funeral, the atmosphere is always somber. At least that's been my experience, and I can't imagine it's much different anywhere else.

Also, in this case, Hailey was not known to be dead. She had disappeared just a few days earlier under mysterious circumstances. There was a possibility that she was suffering, that she was being held captive, raped and tortured. She might've been lying somewhere injured and unable to get help. All sorts of possibilities exist, and for many of us it's inconceivable that a parent could forget them for even a moment.

Then there's the fact that it was NYE, which is normally an occasion to celebrate. So a get together on that particular night gives the impression that the focus was not on Hailey, or coming together to show support for Billie in her hour of need, but rather having a good time. That is why this "party" has become an issue in this case, and why LE saw fit to mention it in the affadavit, imo. It's highly unusual to the point of indicating malevolence on someone's part. But like I said in my previous post, we don't know if Billie was a willing participant, and because of my experience, I've chosen to give her the benefit of the doubt.

ETA: Oh, for crying out loud. LOL I just noticed a huge mistake in my other post! My husband had renal cancer. My mother had the other, and more.
 

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