GUILTY NEW ZEALAND - Grace Millane, 22, British backpacker, Auckland, 1 Dec 2018 #3

[jiffajaffa31]

Is this in recent articles?

Yes it's their current page - not sure how long they'll keep it up for given the name suppression law?

 

[Legally Bland]

Yes it's their current page - not sure how long they'll keep it up for given the name suppression law?

They never took the old articles down. I guess they only started complying to get court access.

 

[courtkim]

They never took the old articles down. I guess they only started complying to get court access.

oh wow I think you’re right about the court access thing.
Google is still blocking most results and DM won’t open but that doesn’t mean I couldn’t navigate to it another way.

 

[Elainera]

Still catching up ..... so glad a swift Guilty verdict was returned! Great job by the prosecution, the judge, the jury, and NZ LE.

All my heart to her family and friends. I hope healing can finally start now.

Thank you also to everyone here who posted updates and the great discussion.

Back to reading ....

 

[courtkim]

Can’t assess the Daily Mail articles from my NZ IP address but can see his name and photo in thumbnails. Looks like they’re complying in part by blocking NZers

 

[imstilla.grandma]

In his testimony, the suspect, whose name could not be released by law, claimed that Ms. Millane had died accidentally during “rough sex,” but the court rejected that explanation, according to The New Zealand Herald.

The prosecution, laying out a very different narrative, described him as exhibiting a pattern of violence against women and a “morbid sexual interest.”

The harrowing details of Ms. Millane’s killing shocked New Zealand, a country seen as socially progressive and relatively safe. It also prompted a re-examination of violence against women in the nation.

New Zealand Man Convicted of Murder in Grace Millane’s Death

 

[Kasmeer]

Great news to wake up to, undoubtably the correct decision; even if he didn't start the encounter with intent, there is no possible way he wouldn't have known what would happen before he finished killing her. Time to release his name now.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

After her body was found, the family thanked the country's people for their compassion.
"By the amount of pictures and messages we received she clearly loved this country, its people and the lifestyle," the family said in a statement released by New Zealand Police in mid-December.
Grace Millane: 27-year old man found guilty of British backpacker's murder - CNN

 

[Tortoise]

I would like to understand more about foot fetish but it seems from a brief search of the topic there is no clear consensus on the matter.

Interesting that he has such a clumsy gait.

 

[Sooty]

I was so pleased to read about the verdict first thing this morning! Good work! Thanks for all the updates throughout.

My mind keeps coming back to the second suitcase he bought in the days following the murder - it is not beyond the realms of possibility to imagine that he was making a plan to use it for another body. Maybe this relates to the name suppression in some way? I don’t like to speculate like this, but the purchase of a second suitcase, identical, when you don’t appear to be swimming in cash, seems significant somehow.

It is frustrating not to have this all wrapped up now this trial is over, it feels like there is still so much more to come out, and we are going to have to be patient by the sounds of it - difficult when you’ve engaged with a case. I can’t imagine what it must feel like for Graces family. Thoughts are with them.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

“Grace was not born here and only managed to stay a few weeks, but you have taken her to your hearts and in some small way she will forever be a Kiwi,” the statement continued.

“We all hope that what has happened to Grace will not deter even one person from venturing out into the world and discovering their own overseas experience,” the family added.

The 27-year-old is expected to be sentenced early next week, Sky News Australia reports.
New Zealand jury finds 27-year-old man guilty of murder of British backpacker - KEYT | KCOY

 

[DanceCard]

Can confirm in UK Daily Mail is naming him and publishing photos.-EDIT hope that doesn't jeopardise any future trials.

Do we know how much time he spent in Australia?
Do they have something like NAMUS in Oz?
How about in NZ?

 

[imstilla.grandma]

Ms Millane's parents grew visibly emotional as he held up seven explicit photographs the accused took of their daughter's body.

He told the jury they were "trophy" images.

"When Grace Millane was dead he took that photograph there, when she was dead," he said. "We know he has a sexual interest in feet; in fetishes. He took that as well; he took those two of her; he took that one of her; and he took those; and she was dead.

"He has eroticised the death of British backpacker Grace Millane, which occurred under his hand-hold, and on her birthday."

He said the photographs showed the defence's proposition - that there was no motive in the case - was not true.

Mr Dickey said while CCTV cameras had captured the pair's movements before and after Ms Millane's death, only they knew what happened in the bedroom.

He told the jury they would rely on his actions after she died in determining his guilt.

"What he did next will tell you so much about what he had done before. That is just normal, rational, deductive reasoning."

Mr Dickey also told the jury the Crown did not have to prove murderous intent; that there was a second pathway of "reckless intent" to murder.

"That is conscious risk-taking. If you kill somebody by conscious risk-taking in this country that is murder and it has been murder in this country for generations and generations."

He also pointed out that by the defence expert's own opinion it would take five to 10 minutes to cause death by strangulation and during that period the victim would pass out and the person strangling them would have to continue.

"This defendant, this gentlemen in the back here, would have had to have her under his grip, suffocating her, strangling her, for a total of what would be approximately five to 10 minutes.

"At some point of which she lost consciousness and would have become under his hand-hold unconscious and limp and lifeless and he had to carry on and if that's not reckless murder in this country ladies and gentlemen, somebody will have to explain to me what is."

Mr Dickey told the jury it wasn't "sex play" or "restricted breath games"; telling the jury the photographs were powerful and inescapable evidence.

"This is holding a person's neck and throat and wrapping your hand or hands around it, however you did it, for an extended period of time - feeling their struggle - and she must have struggled for her life, and going limp and going into unconsciousness, and you carry on."
Grace Millane trial: Crown says accused 'eroticised' death

 

[Tortoise]

My thoughts on the second suitcase are that he may have inadvertently used his card to purchase the first one, or realised he was on the shops cctv buying it when they released the cctv image of Grace, and was planning for being questioned about it being missing. He was pleased as punch when he told the detective it was still in his room and they could check it.

 

[musicaljoke]

Name suppression order will apparently not be lifted until late 2021

"The identity of Grace Millane's murderer will remain a secret until 2021 due to a suppression order that bans media from naming and picturing him...due to a number of legal issues which are also suppressed."

Grace Millane's killer can't be named for two years due to suppression order

Oooooh no! I hope I live so long. But, on the upside, as much as I want to spit on his name, it's not a completely bad thing to have his name wiped from the face of the earth.

 

[CrazyLilBlondie]

That's probably what the judge was referring to at the beginning of the trial, when he said something had been published that was false.

So we all think the child thing was the "something very false has been reported" that the judge referred to? Its odd the grandmother would say he has one but the rest of his family say he doesnt. Unless he spun his grandma a web of lies about having a kid to get money out of her. Nothing would surprise me now!

 

[CrazyLilBlondie]

4) with what we know and suspect, Brookie quite possibly deliberately did a sub par job. Someone said he’s normally pretty good? Maybe he just legitimately didn’t give a **** about this guy and wanted him to go to jail?

Theres only so much you can do with a sociopath as a client I guess. The evidence speaks for itself i don't know how he could have done a better defense when there was so much evidence

 

[CrazyLilBlondie]

Yes it's their current page - not sure how long they'll keep it up for given the name suppression law?

Its only law in New Zealand, the UK papers had to keep his name suppressed because otherwise they weren't allowed in court to report. Now the trial is over its fair game for the UK press. GOOD.

 

[Jaw]

RIP Grace Millane. x

So glad on the decision, I hope he is put away for life

 

[Tortoise]

So we all think the child thing was the "something very false has been reported" that the judge referred to? Its odd the grandmother would say he has one but the rest of his family say he doesnt. Unless he spun his grandma a web of lies about having a kid to get money out of her. Nothing would surprise me now!

No, I was responding to the post that said -

When he was arrested rumours were rife that he was a deportee, booted out of Australia for offending there.

But that information is incorrect.

Who is Grace Millane's murderer? Unravelling labyrinth of lies and a fatal Tinder date