GUILTY NEW ZEALAND - Grace Millane, 22, British backpacker, Auckland, 1 Dec 2018 #3

[Sararara]

I think they might see it as, there is reasonable doubt around his original intentions in starting to choke her. But there is no doubt that continuing to strangle her past the point of unconsciousness and all the way to death constitutes, at the very least, reckless disregard. That was my thinking too. Its irrevocable at that point.

I wonder if he enjoyed the feeling of power so much he couldn't stop himself. Which makes him guilty for sure.

 

[kiwilaura]

Jury is coming in now!

 

[Kikixxxx]

They’ve reached a verdict oh GOD

 

[MsBetsy]

I am wondering if it has to do with an intent to injure? Acknowledging what started as benign turned murderous.

I don't know, I wish we had more details. I wonder if he gave specific details to investigators as to how many times he did it.
He claims she told him to go harder so that would indicate that he released his grip and then tightened it again but I don't know what his story was or if it was made clear in court.

Imo

 

[Kikixxxx]

Guiltyyyyyy

 

[legal.beagle]

I wonder why the jury is asking this question. Was it mentioned how many times the defendant claimed he applied pressure to her neck?

If he only did it once during a sustained period, then it wouldn't make sense that she told him to "go harder," since she would likely not have been able to talk while he had his hands around her throat.

Imo

As others have mentioned, I assume the jury are thinking what may have started as consented strangulation may have turned into something more sinister partway through; which is a good point, really.

 

[kiwilaura]

MURDER! Thank you jury.

 

[PrimeSuspect]

It's only 5.44 pm there, maybe by 6 pm a verdict?

 

[legal.beagle]

Guilty: Man, 27, convicted of murdering British backpacker Grace Millane.

The jury of seven women and five men reached the verdict after just five hours.

Grace Millane murder trial: Jury retires to consider its verdict

 

[kiwilaura]

Actually crying with relief.

RIP Grace Millane.

 

[MsBetsy]

Jury is coming in now!

Here we go...

Is everyone in the UK sleeping right now? There are not a lot of people here right now, it seems.

 

[Mariposa]

I wonder why the jury is asking this question. Was it mentioned how many times the defendant claimed he applied pressure to her neck?

If he only did it once during a sustained period, then it wouldn't make sense that she told him to "go harder," since she would likely not have been able to talk while he had his hands around her throat.

Imo

I think the defendant was Vaguely McVague about this to the police, he obviously left out a lot o’details

 

[kem922]

I am so relieved by their decision. I am so so glad their verdict wasn't tainted by the way the defence tried to tarnish Grace.

 

[PrimeSuspect]

Fantastic!Justice has been served!!

 

[MsBetsy]

Guilty: Man, 27, convicted of murdering British backpacker Grace Millane.

The jury of seven women and five men reached the verdict after just five hours.

Grace Millane murder trial: Jury retires to consider its verdict

Yes!
That was fast!

 

[Kikixxxx]

Here we go...

Is everyone in the UK sleeping right now? There are not a lot of people here right now, it seems.

We’re supposed to be. It’s almost 5am here.

NOW release his name please !!!!!

 

[kem922]

Wish I could hug her family. I hope this brings them some comfort to know the jury came to this decision.

 

[Mariposa]

Yeah! Got chills. Thinking of her family and much respect to the police and prosecutors

 

[MsBetsy]

We’re supposed to be. It’s almost 5am here.

NOW release his name please !!!!!

Yeah, I figured. At least many will wake up soon to good news.

I really want to see a picture of this guy.

 

[kem922]

Yeah! Got chills. Thinking of her family and much respect to the police and prosecutors

The police and prosecutors have been pretty amazing.