GUILTY NEW ZEALAND - Grace Millane, 22, British backpacker, Auckland, 1 Dec 2018 #3

[proctorelites]

I didnt know that. Now I do, thank you for sharing.

But 2 years? Well, how gracious of New Zealand to extend him a helping hand of anonymity even after his conviction, too bad he didn't feel any kindness should be extended to his victim before he choked the life from her.
Im going to stay off this thread because this sparked outrage from me. I think he deserves to feel utter and complete shame for what he has done and NZ needs to update that archaic 1920's era law. Poor fellow, media should never have the privilege of uttering his name, just wow, gross.
Edit to add: I did report my own post so it can be removed

 

[sunnynz]

I didnt know that. Now I do, thank you for sharing.

But 2 years? Well, how gracious of New Zealand to extend him a helping hand of anonymity even after his conviction, too bad he didn't feel any kindness should be extended to his victim before he choked the life from her.
Im going to stay off this thread because this sparked outrage from me. I think he deserves to feel utter and complete shame for what he has done and NZ needs to update that archaic 1920's era law. Poor fellow, media should never have the privilege of uttering his name, just wow, gross.
Edit to add: I did report my own post so it can be removed

It's still suppressed because he is facing other trials within the next year or two on different cases. The name suppression laws are to allow him to have a fair trial (as much as I hate that too it's part of the justice system).

Please please please don't breach those laws and name him anywhere as his lawyers can find any of these kinds of comments online and use them as evidence that he didn't get a fair trial.

there is an option to edit your post so you can remove his name. click 'edit' at the bottom left of the post.

 

[Legally Bland]

I didnt know that. Now I do, thank you for sharing.

But 2 years? Well, how gracious of New Zealand to extend him a helping hand of anonymity even after his conviction, too bad he didn't feel any kindness should be extended to his victim before he choked the life from her.
Im going to stay off this thread because this sparked outrage from me. I think he deserves to feel utter and complete shame for what he has done and NZ needs to update that archaic 1920's era law. Poor fellow, media should never have the privilege of uttering his name, just wow, gross.
Edit to add: I did report my own post so it can be removed

Different jurisdictions just do things differently. There's nothing archaic about ensuring a fair trial. I do share your frustration though.

He'll be named and shamed in good time, a little patience isn't a lot to ask to see justice is done.

 

[proctorelites]

Different jurisdictions just do things differently. There's nothing archaic about ensuring a fair trial. I do share your frustration though.

He'll be named and shamed in good time, a little patience isn't a lot to ask to see justice is done.

I was under the impression his trial was over and he was convicted.

 

[proctorelites]

It's still suppressed because he is facing other trials within the next year or two on different cases. The name suppression laws are to allow him to have a fair trial (as much as I hate that too it's part of the justice system).

Please please please don't breach those laws and name him anywhere as his lawyers can find any of these kinds of comments online and use them as evidence that he didn't get a fair trial.

there is an option to edit your post so you can remove his name. click 'edit' at the bottom left of the post.

I was past the hour mark when I realised I couldnt name him. I reported my own post to moderators to remove it earlier this afternoon.

 

[Legally Bland]

I was under the impression his trial was over and he was convicted.

Yeah, this trial is over. His trials, not so sure.

I respect you for trying to get your post deleted.

 

[jaejae]

Of course luckily there was a guilty verdict in this case but here is report about the defence that was offered in this case:

Why campaigners want 'rough sex' murder defence ban

Of course this case was a New Zealand case and not a UK one.

 

[Tortoise]

The killer, who stood emotionless as the verdict was read out, was remanded in custody until he is sentenced on February 21, 2020.

Grace Millane trial: Jury convicts man of murdering British backpacker

Two weeks today until sentencing.

Unfortunately I'll miss it and will have to catch up after.

 

[jamjim]

Two weeks today until sentencing.

Unfortunately I'll miss it and will have to catch up after.

Thank you for the reminder @Tortoise!

 

[Hjp]

So it will be this Friday then and not a moment too soon. I can only hope the sentence accurately reflects the gravity and deprived circumstances of the case, with a discount only taking into account the time he has already spent on remand.

I would think he will then be taken to Auckland prison to begin his sentence, where I'm sure he'll receive a royal welcome on arrival. I also predict he will be target enemy no 1, within the circles of prison population, and may be forced to serve much of his sentence in isolation.

Not nice, but never more deserving of such a disgusting person.

 

[jamjim]

Grace Millane murder trial: 5 key questions the jury had to answer before finding killer guilty

"His fate was in the hands of 12 ordinary Aucklanders, now it is in the hands of a judge.

A 28-year-old man, who still cannot be named for legal reasons, was found guilty and convicted of British backpacker Grace Millane's murder last November.

At 9am tomorrow he will be sentenced by Justice Simon Moore in the High Court at Auckland."

 

[jamjim]

I'll be around to post updates for the sentencing later!

 

[Alyce]

Just working out my timings ! So 8pm tonight for UK time ?

 

[jamjim]

Just working out my timings ! So 8pm tonight for UK time ?

Correct!

 

[Kikixxxx]

I'll be around to post updates for the sentencing later!

its like old times!

 

[zecats]

I followed this case in the beginning..and up until he was apprehended. Glad to hear he has been found guilty as charged. Continue to RIP Grace.

 

[LucyRocket]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-51568598

 

[Hjp]

Hi again all, if anyone is interested, here is a link from the NZ herald that takes you through the sentencing process.

Grace Millane murder: Killer to be sentenced, everything you need to know and how it will work

 

[jamjim]

"a minute ago
It is expected that victim impact statements will be read to the court by Grace's mum, brother and sister in-law."

Grace Millane murder: Killer to be sentenced this morning over British backpacker's death

 

[jamjim]

"a few seconds ago

The killer's father and other family members have arrived at the courthouse."

Grace Millane murder: Killer to be sentenced this morning over British backpacker's death